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Title: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 09, 2014, 09:36:03 pm
any pics lads?

and what do i need?

obviously i need a few gutter pipes and brackets but how do you screw them into the van roof?

im gonna take a trip to b&q this sunday.

many thanks


dazmond
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dave f on April 09, 2014, 09:40:18 pm
i use tec bolts. they are self taping just fire them in with cordless drill .into cross member 2 min job
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: robert mitchell on April 09, 2014, 09:46:33 pm
i used normal down pipe brackets screwed into the cross members with self tapping screws .

the brackets i brought only had one screw hole but i used three screws in each bracket (drill a small pilot hole with 3/4 mm drill bit) and it has not moved .

will upload pics tomorrow if i remember.

may be too excited about my new extreme pole arriving!  ;D
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: kurt on April 09, 2014, 09:48:03 pm
Put soil pipes in then you can slide you poles inside them .
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: JSMC on April 09, 2014, 09:49:14 pm
self tappers and using down pipe brackets. very very easy to do
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 09, 2014, 10:11:31 pm
how many poles can you fit into each gutter pipe?as i want to fit 2 in if possible.

extreme 25 and unger trad pole in one pipe

extreme 47 and a short wfp(for cleaning the van) in another.

is it possible?

cheers guys


dazmond
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: CasaDeCabra on April 09, 2014, 10:16:14 pm
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Adjustable-Downpipe/p/158939 (http://www.wickes.co.uk/Adjustable-Downpipe/p/158939)

These are the ones I use and as others have said self tappers into a cross member in the roof. Handy as they are adjustable which can be useful if there is a lip in the roof line to get past. You'd probably get three across the roof space if you position them correctly?

I've got some bunjee cords across mine and slide the van wash brush down the side of one of the down tubes.

(http://tpprod.blob.core.windows.net/sys-master-tpprodcontainer/h15/ha1/8811973017630/H9504158939_300Wx300H.jpg)
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: wfp master on April 09, 2014, 10:20:57 pm
how many poles can you fit into each gutter pipe?as i want to fit 2 in if possible.

extreme 25 and unger trad pole in one pipe

extreme 47 and a short wfp(for cleaning the van) in another.

is it possible?

cheers guys


dazmond
never ever put an extreme pole  next to an unger pole. :o ;D
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 09, 2014, 10:25:15 pm
+1 to 1576 above.

The biggest benefit of the Wickes ones is that they have adjustment to move the bracket towards and away from the van roof - this means you can angle them correctly so the pole will actually come out of the van.

Fit them with self-tappers into the roof arches.  If you need significant extra distance from the roof, screw a piece of wood to the arch with a self-tapper then screw into the block of wood.

If there's not an arch where you need one (there isn't in mine) then you'll need to fit a piece of wood across the width of the van attached at the end to whatever bit you can self-tap into.

Vin
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: CleanClear on April 09, 2014, 10:34:30 pm
any pics lads?

and what do i need?

obviously i need a few gutter pipes and brackets but how do you screw them into the van roof?

im gonna take a trip to b&q this sunday.

many thanks


dazmond

I hope i'm not stating the obvious, but you don't need the pipe. You only need the brackets. Your poles will sit fine in the brackets, there is no logical reason to need the actual pipe tube. If you want to get more than one pole in a bracket you're probably better off getting soil pipe brackets. I'd guess they'll be loads cheaper at your local screwfix rather than B&Q.
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: L.U.K.E on April 09, 2014, 10:34:55 pm
Daz

Mark Munro has done a video on You Tube for this.
Search ....

Tips for Making a Window Cleaning Pole Holder For Your Van WFP

 :)
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: H20cleaning on April 09, 2014, 10:42:01 pm
Anyone ever thought of a way to padlock a brush and pole into a van? As i work with the doors open and it sometimes worries me
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 09, 2014, 11:27:47 pm
cheers for all your help guys! :)

a couple of soil pipes and brackets should do the trick! ;)
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: DaveG on April 10, 2014, 07:07:02 am
(http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad172/davegarnett/Work%20stuff/070_zpseb80ac97.jpg) (http://s933.photobucket.com/user/davegarnett/media/Work%20stuff/070_zpseb80ac97.jpg.html)

Here's mine. although I used 6" soil pipe
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: oldman on April 10, 2014, 07:22:23 am

I hope i'm not stating the obvious, but you don't need the pipe. You only need the brackets. Your poles will sit fine in the brackets, there is no logical reason to need the actual pipe tube. If you want to get more than one pole in a bracket you're probably better off getting soil pipe brackets. I'd guess they'll be loads cheaper at your local screwfix rather than B&Q.

+1...Great minds think alike.
Why waste money buying pipe.....the brackets are all you need.
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2014, 07:36:28 am
cheers dave thanks for the pic. :)
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: Spruce on April 10, 2014, 07:38:18 am
..........and Daz, don't forget the roof arches have a limited depth so you want to ensure the self drill Tek screws (if that's what you are going to use) or any other screw doesn't damage or pierce the actual roof because it's too long.

Don't laugh as it happens. A plyling company sent a youngster out to fit plylinning kits to 100 Berlingo vans. He used the wrong length screws and the company had to replace 100 plastic fuel tanks.
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: kurt on April 10, 2014, 07:48:09 am
Same as mine. Using a pipe keeps the poles hose tubing easier to keep tidy
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2014, 07:53:50 am
spruce is it your son that has a connect T230 as well?the room in these vans is great!its like a tardis!! ;D

i will make sure i use short screws! ;D
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: Dave Willis on April 10, 2014, 07:59:27 am
(http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad172/davegarnett/Work%20stuff/070_zpseb80ac97.jpg) (http://s933.photobucket.com/user/davegarnett/media/Work%20stuff/070_zpseb80ac97.jpg.html)

Here's mine. although I used 6" soil pipe

That pole in the middle looks expensive.
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: DaveG on April 10, 2014, 08:07:43 am
 ;D
The one on the left is your old one  :o
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: Spruce on April 10, 2014, 08:28:36 am
spruce is it your son that has a connect T230 as well?the room in these vans is great!its like a tardis!! ;D

i will make sure i use short screws! ;D

Its my son in law and its the L220. It has a payload of 825kgs where yours is 900kg but the body is the same.

Its big enough for him - he has a 500 litre tank in his and he has his running length ways as well to give him space on the sides. He has a set of extendable ladders on one side, his hose reel at the back, a plastic box with clothes and that is all he carries.

The only issue he has is that he has a steel mesh bulkhead and the only way his SLX22 will fit in the side panel is at an angle and the brush head adjusted back. The other option was to put in a pipe holder as you want to do and cut a piece of the mesh out so the pole will extend into the cabin.

But he has worked the way it is for 2 and a half years now and he's happy.
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2014, 08:39:32 am
my mesh bulkhead has room at the top for poles.25 ft extreme with AD and gooseneck and brush fit in with about a foot to spare!
Title: Re: fixing gutter pipes to inside roof of van
Post by: ascjim on April 10, 2014, 04:50:22 pm
Yeah, only use soil pipes! I had gutter at first and it was a bad idea.