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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: scott. on March 26, 2006, 08:28:19 pm

Title: Best approach?
Post by: scott. on March 26, 2006, 08:28:19 pm
Got a white acrylic carpet to do next week.....The owner said she had cleaned it before using a vax, and 1001 solution....Had a bad experience before with a white (wool) carpet..with browning....any ideas of a safe approach to this.
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Post by: scott. on March 27, 2006, 12:34:55 pm
Isnt there any white carpets in the country, except down here? :P
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Post by: andrew chrysler on March 27, 2006, 12:41:39 pm
Tippex ?

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Doug Holloway on March 27, 2006, 07:12:35 pm
Hi Scott,

Check the backing if it hessian then you have apotential browning problem but if plastic then should be O.K

It's pretty hard to brown a carpet so you may have just been unlucky but I would suggest prespray and agitate before extracting , this way you will not overwet.

Cheers

Doug
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Post by: scott. on March 27, 2006, 07:38:40 pm
Doug
Isnt that normal procedure for most carpets?
I was thinking...browning prescription somewhere along the line...what you think?
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Post by: Doug Holloway on March 27, 2006, 07:44:53 pm
Scott,

Yes it is but if you are worried about browning then extending the prep time will result in less water and less risk.

There should be absolutely no need for browning presription.

Cheers

Doug
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Post by: Ian Hare on March 27, 2006, 07:51:17 pm
If you're still worried, (but with Doug's advice you shouldn't be), you could use a bonnet system if conditions allow.
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Post by: scott. on March 27, 2006, 09:30:35 pm
Forgive me guys...I,ve got my blonde head on tonight ::)  how is that any different?...we normally pre-spray and aggitate anyway...and extract with fibre and fabric rinse...Do you mean aggitate well, and a maximum of one pass, and a dry pass....sorry...I'm not with it tonight.
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Post by: the red carpet on March 27, 2006, 09:42:18 pm
Scott i think your last problem was probably a isolated incident
virtually all the carpets i clean are light colours mostly white or cream and i have had no problems with them
and if it has been cleaned before with no problems i see no reason why you cleaning it should create one
and i'm sure watever you will be using will have more suction than there vax (so less chance of you overwetting it)
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Post by: Graeme@Access on March 27, 2006, 11:35:54 pm
Hi,

If it is acrylic, be careful of using a high heat as it prone to melting.  They have a low softening point and even moving furniture across them can leave permanent marks.  I guess if you use heat you might want to be careful with the hose couplings.

I have never cleaned a carpet like this, only upholstery.

Hope this helps

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions
Title: Re: Best approach?
Post by: Doug Holloway on March 28, 2006, 08:15:06 am
Hi Guys,

There used to be quite a lot of acrylic carpet which was very hard wearing but cleaned well without too many problems.

You should be able to clean in your usual manner without encountering any browning or other problem.

Acrylic is a thermoplastic but has a softening point of 215C plus whereas polypropylene has a melting / softening point of 165C and there is loads of PP carpet about.

It is worth bearing in mind that the chemists developing these carpets would have looked at the effect of cleaning , temps etc and would be unlikely to produce a product which was very difficult to clean.

Cheers

Doug
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Post by: scott. on March 28, 2006, 02:07:49 pm
blimey...who has a portable that can heat to that temperature ;D
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Post by: Mark Stanley on March 28, 2006, 05:11:13 pm
white acrylic carpet - good results can be had this was cleaned last week.
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Post by: woodman on March 28, 2006, 05:42:13 pm
Scott,

If she has cleaned it herself with a vax & 1001 she has no doubt left loads of residue within the carpet.

Firstly I would simply hot extract using a sour rinse and NOTHING else.You may find that this is all you need to clean it.

If after that, it is still soiled then a bonnet clean or light HWE using an MS solution ( No2) with usually suffice.

You should never use a browning solution if the carpet doesn't show signs of needing it.

As for melting points Access is getting polyprop mixed up with acrylic as Doug has pointed out.Polyprop can indeed leave scour marks when furniture has been dragged across it but I never know it to melt in a clean. ;)

Good Luck

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Post by: darrenlee on March 28, 2006, 11:45:16 pm
hi scott

looking at the photo i would say its polyprop not acrylic
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Post by: scott. on March 29, 2006, 07:21:34 am
Thats not my Photo......and the carpet has a medium pile and what looks like a hesian backing with plastic on the bottom.....woodman...What is a sour rinse?...I have m/s solution 2...but never use it...I normaly use fibre & fabric rinse, as it conditions the carpet, and smells nice too...are you saying, not to pre-spray at all?....I wouldnt do this carpet, but the owner has the potential to give me a contract worth 10k a year...so.. 8)...don't really wanna mess up...need a new car  ;D...why the hell do ppl buy these sodding white carpets!
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Post by: scott. on March 29, 2006, 07:24:05 am
just an addendum...it's a loop pile.
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Post by: Liahona on April 01, 2006, 12:17:30 pm
Scott, I think most of us have portables that will clean at very high heat. Best, Dave.
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Post by: scott. on April 01, 2006, 12:30:20 pm
What...215 Degrees? get out of it...what you doing ....stripping paint?....65 degrees is hot enough for most carpet...how long you been a cc ???
Title: Re: Best approach?
Post by: scott. on April 01, 2006, 12:31:34 pm
What...215 Degrees? get out of it...what you doing ....stripping paint?....65 degrees is hot enough for most carpet...how long you been a cc ??? ;D
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Post by: stains-away on April 01, 2006, 01:29:31 pm
Scott, i think Liahona means farenheit as i remember reading in his posts that he worked in the states for a long time, 215 degrees farenheit = 102 degrees celcius, achievable by using a portable with an inline heater, Andy
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Post by: Liahona on April 01, 2006, 07:40:34 pm
Ooooops I didnt see the little c that was put next to the 215. As stated I am used to farenheit.....if 65c is close to 160 or so f then no it isnt hot enough for most carpets. That is a very general statement I know but that there is more synthetic carpets out there to be cleaned than natural prouct carpets then above 65 would always be used.