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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lroding on March 26, 2006, 12:43:59 am
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Hi,
I'm looking for vacuum cleaner.
I've read the write ups on the Sebo BS36 and the Sebo Dart2 and frankly wonder which one to go for!!
I notice that the Sebo Dart only uses a 3.5 Ltr bag while the BS36 uses a 5Ltr bag.
This seems a significant difference if you vacuuming large areas like communal areas in blocks of flats.
Also the Dart has a detachable head. Does this introduce an inherent weakness by virtue of taking the head on and off
Also who offers the most competitive pricing
Any advise would be greatly appreciated
Many Thanks
Keith Denton
Simply Maintain
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Ive got a bs36 and think theyre totally over rated, there was a thread running on here a couple of weeks ago entitled best vacuum?, i would chuck a link to it but cant work out how to do it ::), try the search facility and you'll find it,
Andy
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In my opinion a hundred pound Henry will out perform any sebo. A hundred and fifty pound Henry will have extra filters if you have pets to deal with. No comparison, I wouldnt ever buy a Sebo...... Not just Henry's, many others are better too, but as said before, check out the other postings on vacs, best, Dave.
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Henry is ok fro general building work but not for cleaning a carpet . sebos and the like have a rotary brush that drives independently and beats the dust from the carpet. saying that if you look on the envirodri site you will see they do the v36 which has all the tools needed for the job unlike a sebo which are exras. i have a brand new one for sale at a knocked down price of £200 they retail at 275 plus vat so if you are interested keith then give me a bell on 020 8240 0750 or email me pete
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Im a bit of a fan of the Kirby, people either know what they and know there expensive or like the look of it as it looks like it's going to do the business,
two men walk into a property, one swinging a dart like it's a feather and one lugging a kirby in, who's going to look the most pro.
James
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Who is going to be out of business the soonest due to back problems?
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The Kirby is extremely powerful, but very heavy, which is often the inevitable combination.........
Henry...........Dave, on this occasion, you must be joking, they are hated by almost everyone who uses them. In the small tub category the best and most efficient I've ever found, is the Yes Water Filtration vacuum, which really does, what Dyson claims, but does'nt deliver.............water captures all of the tiny particles which escape, even the finest filters..............and gives maximum power, always.
I know there are some portables with built in vacs..........not new and seems a good and logical idea..........but only if filtration is improved, or motors suffer.
So.............there's no best vacuum, bub several favourites.........same as machines
rob m
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Goron's comment is one of the most important considerations when selecting all of your equipment.................always consider how it could affect you as a user.
I've recurring Sciatica and Spinal compression, which stopped me working fulltime about seven years ago, but nowadays, as a physical therapist can fix and maintain my pelvis and spine...........don't be a slave to your business, it can be very, very painful.
So.........as Goron suggests.............. Get a machine which won't damage you, but give a reasonable performance'
Something worth considering..............can the vacuum you use in a client's home, leave a lasting and pleasant impression...........one can !
rob m
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Goron
wight cant be that much of an isssue as a lot of people are still lugging in and out or there van there very over weight portys, and you forget im a bit younger than you ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you for your great response
Wow such a lot of different opinons, I guess that's inevitable!
At present I use Premiere cyclinder models (very reliable), Henrys, even a dyson for low profile carpets with dog hairs ... but these have only been used for general cleaning.
Now I've ventured into carpet cleaning and it appears to me that cyclinder models without brush heads just don't cut the mustard
I guess I wasn't very clear in asking the question.
My fault.
Sorry.
So perhaps I should rephrase it.
What in your experience is the best vacuum cleaner for carpet cleaning use?
Weight obviously is a factor due to continual use
Many Thanks
Keith Denton
Simply Maintain
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Hi Jay
Only a very very little bit younger, I'm only 27.
But I know from my Engineering days how easy it is to damage your back even muscle damage can give you recurring problems and when your working for yourself there is no company sick pay to rely on!
Cheers Goron
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Personally i would say the sebo dart is a good choice and at a reasonable price. But then again the Vorwork is an excellent machine but you can expect to pay around £900 for a good one unless you look on Ebay where they are for sale sometimes for around £250 from germany but then you have the problem of aftersales service and do you actually trust people on ebay there are a lot of scammers!
Cheers Goron
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I have tried quite a few vacs over the years and have to say the kirby seems the most powerful, as for the weight it is heavier than most, but if you make sure when you buy one it is a model with tech drive as these are partially self propelled when going forward and in reverse, the only down side is they are a bit fiddley when you need to attach the hose! don't be put off by the price as you can pick up second hand ones for about £100 in the local papers or on e-bay.
all the best
John
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I know the health impications of lugging heavy stuff about only too well,i gave up welding heavy structural steel after 9 years, the last 2 of which were spent mostly laying on the floor with prolapsed discs in my lumber,since changing my job and the way i work (using ramps to lift gear in and out of the van etc) i havent had any problems,ask yourself if lugging a heavy vacuum about to look "pro" is worth spending 3 months at a time not being able to get up off the floor and not knowing what day it is due to the medication your taking!!!
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keith as well as the v36 i have a kirby for sale which has been totally refurbished
i bought it for 165 on ebay but i prefer my v26 and sebo you can have it for 120 if you want it
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I have the Sebo BS36 and has already been said its a bit over rated, however they are very durable.
I also bought my wife a Sebo Dart at the show last week (aint I nice) ;) and I have to say this seems to have a lot more power and suction (really sticks to the carpet).
So I would go for either the Dart (2) or go on ebay & pick up a cheap Kirby which in my opinion are the best.
Weight doesn't come into it, a lot of items in this business are a lot heavier than a vacuum cleaner.
Rgds
Phil
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Hi
Check out http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4449855624&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:UK:1
I bought one off this guy and it's good as gold.
Top machine for £40
Cheers
Chris
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...At present I use Premiere cyclinder models (very reliable)...
Keith,
If you are looking for a cylinder vacuum cleaner then it should be TASKI BABY BORA or my second choice VICTOR.
Kirby is too heavy, Dyson is a toy (built for storage not for work).
Sebo is overpriced (shop around and you may pay up to £200 for BS36), I would go for it.
Regards,
Arthur
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I used a kirby for years and they are good, but like many others it seems i have payed the price of a bad back, a trapped nerve on several occasions and so i've ditched the kirby as it was so heavy to lug in and out the van all day and now just use the henry, the new model has a rotating air powered brush on it which is great, only wish i'd done it sooner.
it's not worth worrying about how "pro" you look the customer will remember what a good job you did, not what sort of vacuum you were caryying ::)
regards
steve
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I keep been asked where did you get that vacuum from (there words Hoover) considering becoming an agent, come on HD, Prochem etc.
Len the dart
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Hi
The Kirby in my opinion is way too heavy and very overpriced, the Henry is a great machine for general cleaning and very robust but not good enough for the carpet cleaning industry. Pull along cylinder vacuums with power brushes on the end are not heavy enough and tend to skim along the surface of the pile. The Sebo dart 2 is my prefered choice as it is lightweight, extremely powerful, and very manouverable. I have a large pile lifter vac which I bought many moons ago which I used to use but to be honest it was far too heavy, the Sebo will perform just as good with not as much effort.
Derek
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Rob, I made my comment tounge in cheek and wasnt surprised you were the only one to pick it up. Having said that I still dont like the Sebo's....... I dont vacuum anyway so what do I care?....... Most of my customers use vacs without any beater bar or brushes for the same reasons I dont use a rotary machine on what it is that I clean. To my knowlegde the highest rated vac is or was made by a company called, Lundhouse, although I know this is not how it is spelled. I think they were bought out by Euroclean. A vac is judged not always by what it picks up but by what it doesnt put back in to the "air". This in mind, at the time I had one, many years ago when I did vac, it was the only one recommended for use in hospitals..... this info as I say was from a few years ago and I am sure has since changed.......
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My first Sebo bought in 1992 is now in the hands of my daughter and still going strong.
SEBO just seem to last and last and last......................
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I have a sebo dart 2 for sale on ebay if any body is looking for one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sebo-Dart-2_W0QQitemZ4460856152QQcategoryZ43015QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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kirby kirby kirby kirby kirby and kirby. Ive also got a sebo bs46. I stopped using that after comparing its effectiveness with the kirby on rug cleaning. - When the sebo's done its best the kirby will carry on bashing dirt out for another half an hour.
kirby kirby kirby kirby kirby.............. ::)
Dave, a henry? :o No wonder you need such a powerful truckmount ;D
Alan
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Hi, sebo, for price and general effectivness, however, I invested in a Rainbow E - series some years ago ( £1600 ) when I got mine, doesn,t feel like its doing anything but the crap it pulls out is unreal, H2O vac off of QVC similar idea coupled with a power-vac attachment might have good results, but most of the time I use power vac attachment with downer on my ninja, no reason why it can't be used with TMs either. read most of the posts on this subject, sebo 36, seems most popular, and they do go on and on with minimal problems, I've used them for 18 years ( I have 4 ) only ever really change belts, drive spigots, filters and brushes, motors seem indistructible.
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Alan fair comment although if you look at another post on here re vac's the Henry is way out in front........ Anyway as I have said before I dont vac so it makes no difference to me. Oh and I havent done for over 10 years, again its the market we each clean for, best, Dave.......
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I use a numatic back pack with the rotating air powered brush. I am new to carpet cleaning but found it a class peice of kit, I almost bought the vacuum attachment from ashby's but went for the back pack and never looked back.
Regards
Andrew P
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Ashby's vacuum attachment with the dustdowner will out perform the lot,2x 3stage vac's or even put it on your Truckmount (WOW). l've never looked back and only have to carry in the attachment.
The Kirby and Sebo are gathering dust in my garage.
Regards Rob
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Hi,
I use a sebo BS36 daily for work and can't fault it. We have a henry indoors and it works well on hard floors and floorboards although I don't consider it to have the carpet cleaning power of the sebo. I wouldn't fancy using the henry for work as its so much harder to push and pull the head across carpet compared to the sebo.
Kind regards,
Jason.