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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 03:21:11 pm

Title: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 03:21:11 pm
My question is when buying fortnightly work what price should you pay. I only have 1 day which is cleaned every 2 weeks and the prices are lower than they should be, I took this work on one year ago and immediately increased the price by £0.50 and £1.00 but lost some as they thought £5.50 every 2 weeks was to dear for a detached house with an extension! So if rounds are going for 3 to 5 times the monthly take what should you pay for a round of 2 weekers average price £4.00 cleaned trad and to be converted to wfp.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: alfie11 on March 31, 2014, 03:43:27 pm
My opinion based on your prices, it has no resale value. Dump em all
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 05:19:49 pm
The £5.50 house should have been £10.00, the other houses in that area are smaller but the work I may look at is probably council 4 in a blocks at £4.00 per 2 weeks which if increased by 50p gives you a fair hourly rate when doing 2 blocks an hour with wfp
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: alfie11 on March 31, 2014, 06:25:59 pm
You need to earn a



wage +

tax

NI

Holiday pay

Sick pay

Fuel

Vehicle purchase
 
Road license

Vehicle maintenance

Vehicle insurance

Public liability insurance (optional for mad people)

Website

Accountancy

Bank fees

Stationary

Phone

Internet

Work wear

buying and maintaining a WFP set up (I buy something every week) but I do like online shopping and dislike people



You say £4 avg, you will end up working hard  being skint and end up disheartened.


Good luck







Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Marc Stock on March 31, 2014, 06:29:06 pm
Sorry mate Alfie 11 is right.

There is no resale value here, these customers are doing nothing but humouring you. Get rid of, no one is going to pay for that work.

There's no business sense in buying it.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 07:51:32 pm
So if you can do £27 taking easy to £36 per hour on a council housing round and it was something you were to consider buying to put someone on it would you pay 3-5 times monthly value even though it's 2 weekly.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2014, 07:53:04 pm
So if you can do £27 taking easy to £36 per hour on a council housing round and it was something you were to consider buying to put someone on it would you pay 3-5 times monthly value even though it's 2 weekly.

No. Cause that's 10 times the price.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 07:59:34 pm
Of course its worth something, you just have to find the right person, or the RIGHT price if your buying.

your not going to get any good advice unless someone who does 2 weekly posts, because most dont do it I imagine.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 31, 2014, 08:44:08 pm
You need to earn a



wage +

tax

NI

Holiday pay

Sick pay

Fuel

Vehicle purchase
 
Road license

Vehicle maintenance

Vehicle insurance

Public liability insurance (optional for mad people)

Website

Accountancy

Bank fees

Stationary

Phone

Internet

Work wear

buying and maintaining a WFP set up (I buy something every week) but I do like online shopping and dislike people



You say £4 avg, you will end up working hard  being skint and end up disheartened.


Good luck









This is brilliant you actually were able to pretty much list everything ;)

 
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 31, 2014, 08:48:36 pm
There is a reason why you wAna sell it cos there is alot of crap involved for £5 jobs why don't you employ someone on that estate and see how profitable it

Of why don't you just up them all to £12 monthly or something? Explain that its the same as fortnightly except you come once now you will loose a few but even if you keep 25% you won't be really worse off you will loose some income but a big difference in the hourly rate I personally prefer to drive from street to street for a £20 then do 4x under priced houses in a street
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 08:49:53 pm
You need to earn a



wage +

tax

NI

Holiday pay

Sick pay

Fuel

Vehicle purchase
 
Road license

Vehicle maintenance

Vehicle insurance

Public liability insurance (optional for mad people)

Website

Accountancy

Bank fees

Stationary

Phone

Internet

Work wear

buying and maintaining a WFP set up (I buy something every week) but I do like online shopping and dislike people



You say £4 avg, you will end up working hard  being skint and end up disheartened.


Good luck









This is brilliant you actually were able to pretty much list everything ;)

 

apart from the fact you can make a healthy profit turning over £27 ph+  ::)roll  ::)roll
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 31, 2014, 08:52:06 pm
How do they pay that £27 do you have to collect if so add that time on
Small priced houses normally like to pay when they see you,
What's the managing side of things like
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: danny mckim on March 31, 2014, 09:45:34 pm
If I had the choice of 40 houses@ £5 or 1 massive job at £200, I'd take the 40 houses everytime. Unlikely anyone would undercut your £5 jobs, where as the £200 job would probably be gone to someone who would do it cheaper. So for all you guys who say this work is worthless, maybe yours should have a rethink
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 10:07:33 pm
Regarding overheads, I don't know of any job other than train drivers that you get picked up from your home by taxi to take you to work so for a large percentage of people that choose to work they will have many of the overheads that have been mentioned. Having Previously worked driving HGV's I would have to travel 25 miles across Glasgow to start work before you earn the going rate of an HGV driver who paid the best part of a couple grand for the privilege at a time specified by management. If you worked in an office you would be spending more than the price of a 22ft pole and resin (ppm from tap 36) on suits.
On the outskirts of Glasgow 2 weekly cleans are common and rounds local to myself are well priced and don't come up for sale they get passed down inbred families.
So if 2 weekly cleans were common in your area would expect to pay say 3 times the 2 weekly clean value or 3 times the monthly value.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2014, 10:09:59 pm
If I had the choice of 40 houses@ £5 or 1 massive job at £200, I'd take the 40 houses everytime. Unlikely anyone would undercut your £5 jobs, where as the £200 job would probably be gone to someone who would do it cheaper. So for all you guys who say this work is worthless, maybe yours should have a rethink

Nah, 40 jobs @£5. All the paperwork, chasing, collecting etc etc.
10@£20 I'd take over 1@£200 but not 40...
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 10:10:24 pm
Regarding overheads, I don't know of any job other than train drivers that you get picked up from your home by taxi to take you to work so for a large percentage of people that choose to work they will have many of the overheads that have been mentioned. Having Previously worked driving HGV's I would have to travel 25 miles across Glasgow to start work before you earn the going rate of an HGV driver who paid the best part of a couple grand for the privilege at a time specified by management. If you worked in an office you would be spending more than the price of a 22ft pole and resin (ppm from tap 36) on suits.
On the outskirts of Glasgow 2 weekly cleans are common and rounds local to myself are well priced and don't come up for sale they get passed down inbred families.
So if 2 weekly cleans were common in your area would expect to pay say 3 times the 2 weekly clean value or 3 times the monthly value.


so i got it right then?
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 10:17:03 pm
How do they pay that £27 do you have to collect if so add that time on
Small priced houses normally like to pay when they see you,
What's the managing side of things like
I prefer folks to pay online but in a scheme you or someone else will be chapping doors I'd say a third would be collected when cleaned. I've just as much % of hassle in new estates as my scheme work. The normal day for me is dropping someone in a street dotting 25l containers around and off I trot to work myself with the tank, at the end of the week we collect.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 10:30:37 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2014, 10:39:38 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(

Feeling a bit neglected fella?

Doesn't pay to be sensible on here.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 10:44:19 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(

Feeling a bit neglected fella?

Doesn't pay to be sensible on here.

Im a bit sensative tonight  ;D At least an acknowledgement would of been nice  ::)roll
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2014, 10:52:04 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(

Feeling a bit neglected fella?

Doesn't pay to be sensible on here.

Im a bit sensative tonight  ;D At least an acknowledgement would of been nice  ::)roll

I acknowledge you.
How's that bud?
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 10:56:18 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(

Feeling a bit neglected fella?

Doesn't pay to be sensible on here.

Im a bit sensative tonight  ;D At least an acknowledgement would of been nice  ::)roll

I acknowledge you.
How's that bud?


thanks i feel better now  ;D
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: PoleKing on March 31, 2014, 11:08:07 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(

Feeling a bit neglected fella?

Doesn't pay to be sensible on here.

Im a bit sensative tonight  ;D At least an acknowledgement would of been nice  ::)roll

I acknowledge you.
How's that bud?


thanks i feel better now  ;D

Happy to help young man.
Now go and have a Horlicks and a caramel digestive.
You deserve it
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on March 31, 2014, 11:11:03 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(
LOL my apologies, twice when replying to comments in detail internet explorer or the site itself froze at the same time getting hassle from the wife for being on tinternet and not organising my boys birthday party.
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 31, 2014, 11:13:03 pm
Im the only person who has tried to answer your question which turns out you already knew the answer to, and im the only person you have'nt acknowledged!  >:(
LOL my apologies, twice when replying to comments in detail internet explorer or the site itself froze at the same time getting hassle from the wife for being on tinternet and not organising my boys birthday party.

all is forgiven  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Crystal-clear on April 01, 2014, 03:05:50 am
Look Ofc its worth something depends who's buying it ,end off the day its still gona make money for a new starter its great At 2x the monthly value so maybe 4 cleans?
That's what I paid once up north for fortnightly work maybe you will get more
Title: Re: Buying fortnightly work
Post by: Plankton on April 01, 2014, 10:54:10 am
4 cleans sounds fair enough. It's to keep someone busy so not to lose them as they're very good at other more profitable work.