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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Hilton on March 28, 2014, 11:31:31 am
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Would you be willing to pay a couple of hundred pounds a month to one of the country's top entrepreneurs that will do all this for you, specific for your industry.
All you marketing done for you :o that includes;
Website,
Auto responders
Google Adwords
Flyers
Banner remarketing
Facebook
Printed Ads
Direct Mail etc
3 monthly marketing campaigns for different targets and customers.
All put into a marketing calender and monitored through out, all you have to do is get it sent out and amend as necessary.
No contracts, no tie-in
exclusive to your territory, in other words it will not be offered to anyone else close to you
90 day money back guarantee.
And before anyone says it, its NOT fast track.
What do you think ? would you do it ?
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Clearly that would just be to execute it ?
On top of that is the actual costs of ads , postage etc?
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Clearly that would just be to execute it ?
On top of that is the actual costs of ads , postage etc?
just to execute it
Obviously your postage, your telephone bills, your fuel , your products, your salary and your machinery would be at your expense.
Don't want much for £200.00 do you ;D
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Think they would want a bit more than £200 per month for that.
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Sorry £200 + VAT.
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Sounds good.....provided they fully understand your market.
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Clearly that would just be to execute it ?
On top of that is the actual costs of ads , postage etc?
just to execute it
Obviously your postage, your telephone bills, your fuel , your products, your salary and your machinery would be at your expense.
So it is a company that marketing is outsourced to ?
Don't want much for £200.00 do you ;D
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Ok. Knowing a little bit about whats involved here I think you need to be clearer. I like the guarantee for starters and things like remarketing show someone's ahead of the pack. However lets be clear.
For £200 you are not going to get the personal attention of someone very experienced. What you will get is a 'consultant' who works your account and the work is farmed out to the phillipines or India. I'm not saying that's bad I'm saying be a bit more honest. If you genuinely are getting mr top entrapenuer who is sitting down doing a 1 on 1 and then implementing it then it's the best thing ever and people should bite your hand off.
The other possibility is this is a sales funnel fir much more expensive offerings.
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I think for £200 plus vat is exellent, for decent seo alone
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I've done a few courses over the years. There are only two top people I can say I've had proper contact with and only one of those who I could phone up today on his mobile.
He charges (approximately) £ 25,000 for a sales letter, £ 5,000 min for a website and £1,200 per HOUR for consulting. In fairness, he probably works in more competitive businesses than carpet cleaning.
If you are in a competitive niche, then ongoing SEO / webmarketing will be something between £ 500 to £ 2,000 each month. I recently costed a job for myself and got very similar figures (over four figures). The entrepreneur may well have a network in place already which may allow them to reduce the cost to you.
If someone is doing a bespoke service for you for £ 200, then bite their hand off now.
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But this would be one set of marketing strategies replicated again & again, not as time consuming as it seems.
The adwords campaign would be exactly the same for company A as company B but with the the town name altered, the newsletter would be exactly the same with a name change.
It would take a few hours to create the master stratagy, the all you need is 10-20 companies to create a part time business that pays good money for little effort.
I think I will do it myself ;D
Plus.... Any one who describes themselves as ....one of the country's top entrepreneurs needs a reality check, if they were they would not be working with us lowly carpet cleaners
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Well said Mike
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I was going to say, "one of the country's top entrepreneurs", cheese on toast or what.
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Bargain!
Where do I sign?
Think it's a top idea FT would do well again if re done for today's market place.
Shaun
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I'd pay £200 for just the printed material if proven it pulls a response.
Mark
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There not doing it for carpet cleaning yet . But from what I can make out they say what you need to do and you do it . So if say your clueless on a computer you would still struggle . You would still need your leaflets printed and delivered .
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Why does everyone have to be so cryptic why not just say who it is and what's it's about
Rather than say ' country's top entrepreneur' say his name ::)roll or put up a link
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There not doing it for carpet cleaning yet . But from what I can make out they say what you need to do and you do it . So if say your clueless on a computer you would still struggle . You would still need your leaflets printed and delivered .
Who are we talking about ?
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It's nigel botterills entrepreneurs circle mate
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If you want the real secret you need to join the inner, inner circle. A bit like enlightenment in Scientology.
Joking aside I reckon most people benefit from these things, not because of the marketing info (which is freely available) but it makes you accountable to actually implement it.
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>>its NOT fast track<<
You wouldnt even get a A4 binder for £200-00 on Fast Track! ;) I know as ive got all the book work behind me...
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So it's £ 400 start up and then £ 300 a month, so £ 3,300 / 3,700 for the first year?
From what I can see from the package, it's decent, basic, solid marketing - nothing outrageous (that's meant in a good way rather than knocking it). It's the sort of stuff that people should be doing anyway.
Fasttrack is maybe a couple of grand and industry specific.
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It's nigel botterills entrepreneurs circle mate
I read some of his stuff and then i found a lot of not so good things about him, he has a lot of ex franchisees who would say they have been conned by him and his wife. Google some of his franchises "The Best Of" review.
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I hope Hilton gets a free membership out of this for dropping their advert in the forum.
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I bet Richard doesn't ;D
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;D
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So it's £ 400 start up and then £ 300 a month, so £ 3,300 / 3,700 for the first year?
bit of a catch22 situation, them that can see the benefit & can afford this amount are probably the ones who are successful enough not to need his services
the ones who really need him will see this amount and think..... 'no chance of me paying someone that sort of money!!'
the ones that really need it are too thick to realise it
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Where's the link??
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In theory there is no risk. They have built risk reversal into the deal.
You pay up on a credit card and if you are getting a ROI you keep on going, if you don't you claim back.
There is a low entry point. If you can't afford £200 a month then it ain't for you.
What they haven't shown yet is proof. So I'm expecting a roll out of testimonials to 'prove' it works.
The truth is most people will pay up and feel all excited only to find they have to do some work or face up to things they don't want to face up to. This is where one on one coaching is important.
Trouble is coaching is expensive unless its some snot nose kid who last week was working in phones4U with a days training on working through a checklist.
Personally I think most people would benefit from a mentor, therapist or coach. Once you get your head right all the marketing stuff you've bought in the past and all the opportunities that are staring you in the face but chose to filter out start getting capitalised upon.
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Would you be willing to pay a couple of hundred pounds a month to one of the country's top entrepreneurs that will do all this for you, specific for your industry.
All you marketing done for you :o that includes;
Website,
Auto responders
Google Adwords
Flyers
Banner remarketing
Facebook
Printed Ads
Direct Mail etc
3 monthly marketing campaigns for different targets and customers.
All put into a marketing calender and monitored through out, all you have to do is get it sent out and amend as necessary.
No contracts, no tie-in
exclusive to your territory, in other words it will not be offered to anyone else close to you
90 day money back guarantee.
And before anyone says it, its NOT fast track.
What do you think ? would you do it ?
I already do!
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Good for you but this is for those that dont
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The Thing is if you ask me Jamie doesn't need to, His company is the Company of choice in Scotland due to the Experience he has gained from the time his dad run the company. And hats off to him for wanting to build it better and bigger.
IMO he had a hard act to follow, and the fact he gives out so much info for free and chats forever about cleaning, people could and have learned a few things from him ;)
Like you say you only get out what you put in! Jamie has probs forgot more about carpet cleaning than what most no about carpet cleaning on this.
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I dont use it for the supply side of the Business Barry.
This keeps me really busy which doesn't leave a lot of time for other marketing.
It is part of what we do on the service side of things.
That way if I dont have time that month to get something together there is a nice done for you piece in my inbox.
Its the same with the newsletters albeit they are for existing customers.
Its just download, tweak, deploy.
Thanks for the kind words btw ;)
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If this is something for you it is limited to 2 businesses per area.
If it is for you let me know so I can refer you and get a kick back ;D
I will pass this on to you with some products.
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Hi Jamie does the company also deal with domestic work cheers del
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If this is something for you it is limited to 2 businesses per area.
If it is for you let me know so I can refer you and get a kick back ;D
I will pass this on to you with some products.
Are you a member of EC ?
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Yes. Have been for over 2 years.
One of the pieces in months done for you marketing is aimed at domestic cleaners which could be easily adapted to carpet cleaning.
For me the B2B pieces are what I use and these are fairly generic and have easy customization.
You do however get access to all the other trades each month that they do each month and I have found that having a quick flick through them can highlight some bits worth swiping.
That is just a small piece of it. Like I said above if you are interested email me your name company name phone and email to jamie@cleaningsystemsuk.com and I will add you through the referral scheme that will let you see whats available and if you opt in get a load of discounts.
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No need I am a member too albeit just a few months.
Reason I asked the question is because I have received the info on marketing and will be taking this up in the next month, its a no brainer to me, just one piece could get you all your investment back and if not chuck it in within the 90 days and get your money back.
The responses on here have been interesting though, I have passed details on to several business's (not here) but I would have thought this would have been a perfect fit for carpet cleaners and cleaners in general...If I was just starting out I would implement this as quickly as possible.
It will help me as I do not undestand the technical stuff for the internet and the offer to set up your email campaign was enough for me.
Oh well see how it goes in the coming months.
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As with all these things they only work if you implement them.
The EC realised this and made steps to do as much as possible to make the implementation easy for you so that you can see the benefit quickly.
The biggest challenge with this stuff is that some say its too cheesy for their market. Then there are those that just did what they said. Copy, Paste, Send get on with your day and see the returns. I had this challenge with the first couple of pieces but decided to just do it.
We have definitely had some leads/appointments that wouldn't have happened if we hadn't done this.
We probably would have got them regardless of what we had sent. Its just gettig the time to do it then procrastinate about if I think its good enough. The way I see it is that its made by the guys at N5 and they have already sold plenty to me so must be good at what they do.
In regard to the comments earlier about disgruntled franchisees etc. That isnt what you are buying into so I would discount that.
Anyone on here going to their members event at Wembley on Sunday/Monday this coming weekend?
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I doubt there is a single franchise out there without disgruntled franchisees..
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How has it gone for yourself Hilton (is that the right name?) in the few months that you've been with them?
Jamie's point is interesting. I heard somewhere that someone had calculated that about fifty percent of courses actually never got used (they were still on the shelf, wrapped in cellophane).
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Hi Jamie
I haven't actually started the marketing deal with them yet but intend to in the next couple of weeks after I have had a meeting with them concerning another issue.
So far I have found the whole EC bit very good, I like the monthly reginal meetings where you meet up with other like minded business's and I used a fair bit of their material for ideas to use in my own main business (which is not CC).
I recently purchased their marketing folders a hefty set of material and quite expensive but they have been very useful, there is too much to go through in a couple of weeks but definately will be implemented a lot of this stuff in the coming year.
It is like having a marketing expert on tap as and when you need it, pretty much everything is covered and I have spoken to ther business owners who have greatly grown their business since joining, no doubt there are others who haven't but I would say in those instances they are not putting the effort in.
If anybody wants information on the Marketing Managment offer drop me a line on mygeneration.paper@gmail.com and I will send you a info sheet that I have, I have several here.
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Who or what is EC?
Shaun
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Hi,
http://www.nigelbotterill.com/?gclid=CI_s1KP9v70CFXMRtAodAyoARQ
We're considering joining, currently on the free trial, if anyone is already a member and wants to pass on the discount etc let me know.
Cheers,
Huw
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Those of you who contacted me, I will get that info out to you tomorrow..
Could you make sure you leave your address and not just an email address when sending info over....
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Hi,
http://www.nigelbotterill.com/?gclid=CI_s1KP9v70CFXMRtAodAyoARQ
We're considering joining, currently on the free trial, if anyone is already a member and wants to pass on the discount etc let me know.
Cheers,
Huw
Just need name company name phone and email and I can sign you up. jamie@cleaningsystemsuk.com
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What is it offering that say fast track isn't?
Some of you will say sign up and see but what's the point of having a forum if we can't discuss?
Shaun