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Title: selling van
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 26, 2014, 09:06:35 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: wfp master on March 26, 2014, 09:10:37 pm
£800
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 26, 2014, 09:12:35 pm
really that cheap ?if thats so ill sorn it and have a back up
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 26, 2014, 09:43:18 pm
?
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 26, 2014, 11:40:14 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: supernova77 on March 26, 2014, 11:59:00 pm
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Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.

You don't get a proper valuation for your vehicle using a site like that...

They will buy off of you and sell on for a profit... The price they pay isn't a true market reflection.

Andy
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: oldman on March 27, 2014, 03:34:05 am
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.


   :o.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: H20cleaning on March 27, 2014, 09:09:31 am
Webuyanycar ;D
They wi offer you £20.00 and a pack of pork scratchings!
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 27, 2014, 03:44:55 pm
what kind of pork scratching?
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 27, 2014, 04:05:11 pm
what kind of pork scratching?

one with hairs on  :-X  :-X  :P  :'(
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 27, 2014, 04:12:29 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van

£1500 - don't sell yourself short - very economical - no cambelt - Suzuki engine - 40mpg plus - low road tax and as GVW is 2000kg it's not restricted to van speeds. Payload 736kg. Perfect one man band set up with 400L on board.

(I reckon my 56 plate doblo on 38k is worth about £2000 and I keep it as a back up.)
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Andy A on March 27, 2014, 04:24:22 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.

Werobanycar/van work on CAP prices (the auction average price) minus a percentage, so you won't even get trade in price for it, they then charge a £50 admin fee, and walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing when it lands at their place, the idea being that they can buy them in, and if needs be punt them straight through to auction and turn a profit, conning twunts.

The easiest way to get a price is to have a look at what similar vans with similar mileage have sold for, then if you want it gone quick, drop a couple of hundred quid off of that price.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 27, 2014, 04:27:08 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.

Werobanycar/van work on CAP prices (the auction average price) minus a percentage, so you won't even get trade in price for it, they then charge a £50 admin fee, and walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing when it lands at their place, the idea being that they can buy them in, and if needs be punt them straight through to auction and turn a profit, conning twunts.

The easiest way to get a price is to have a look at what similar vans with similar mileage have sold for, then if you want it gone quick, drop a couple of hundred quid off of that price.

Good advice Boycee have the Driscall brothers caught up with you yet?
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 27, 2014, 04:31:26 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.

Werobanycar/van work on CAP prices (the auction average price) minus a percentage, so you won't even get trade in price for it, they then charge a £50 admin fee, and walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing when it lands at their place, the idea being that they can buy them in, and if needs be punt them straight through to auction and turn a profit, conning twunts.

The easiest way to get a price is to have a look at what similar vans with similar mileage have sold for, then if you want it gone quick, drop a couple of hundred quid off of that price.

Not my experience.

I took an old car to them for valuation.  They don't go round knocking money off for every mark.  They expect an old vehicle to be in pretty poor state - they didn't knock a penny off my Jag and its paintwork was pretty duff and quite marked.  They are looking for damage rather than just marking.

Their offer was pretty much OK and I was under no pressure to take it.  The reason the offer was fair was that the auto gearbox needed a £2,500 repair and the central locking sender was shot (£1,200).  Neither of those things came into the equation - they didn't even start it.

So, if you're selling a vehicle with major mechanical faults they are definitely worth a try.  In the OP's case this isn't relevant but webuyanycar can be useful.

Vin
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: 8weekly on March 27, 2014, 04:33:06 pm
i have just been offered a hiace with 150k and r reg that i think i will buy so will have to sell my smaller van, its a fiat doblo 1.3 with a 400lt tank caged and bolted down. its a 56 plate and is in very nice condition apart from the back right hand light is cracked and it needs an indicator stalk it has done 60k miles i was just gunna sell it to one of the lads round here but how much do you guys think its worth, im willing to sell it at a good price so i can replace it with the other van
Go onto webuyanycar.com and put your reg in along with some other info in the required boxes and you will get an instant valuation.

Werobanycar/van work on CAP prices (the auction average price) minus a percentage, so you won't even get trade in price for it, they then charge a £50 admin fee, and walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing when it lands at their place, the idea being that they can buy them in, and if needs be punt them straight through to auction and turn a profit, conning twunts.

The easiest way to get a price is to have a look at what similar vans with similar mileage have sold for, then if you want it gone quick, drop a couple of hundred quid off of that price.

Not my experience.

I took an old car to them for valuation.  They don't go round knocking money off for every mark.  They expect an old vehicle to be in pretty poor state - they didn't knock a penny off my Jag and its paintwork was pretty duff and quite marked.  They are looking for damage rather than just marking.

Their offer was pretty much OK and I was under no pressure to take it.  The reason the offer was fair was that the auto gearbox needed a £2,500 repair and the central locking sender was shot (£1,200).  Neither of those things came into the equation - they didn't even start it.

So, if you're selling a vehicle with major mechanical faults they are definitely worth a try.  In the OP's case this isn't relevant but webuyanycar can be useful.

Vin
A bit dishonest though.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 27, 2014, 04:38:58 pm

A bit dishonest though.


No.  I discussed it with the buyer and it's just not part of their valuation procedure.  They take no note of mechanical condition.  So you're talking through your hat, I'm afraid.

Vin
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Andy A on March 27, 2014, 04:52:11 pm

A bit dishonest though.


No.  I discussed it with the buyer and it's just not part of their valuation procedure.  They take no note of mechanical condition.  So you're talking through your hat, I'm afraid.

Vin

Someone's talking out of somewhere, but it isn't 8weekly, lfted from their website at

http://www.webuyanycar.com/TermsAndConditions (http://www.webuyanycar.com/TermsAndConditions)

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1. ABOUT US
1.1

webuyanycar.com is a site operated by We Buy Any Car Limited (we or us). We are a company registered in England and Wales under company number 05727953 and our registered office is at Headway House, Crosby Way, Farnham, Surrey, GU9 7XG.

2. ASSUMPTIONS
We will make the following assumptions about your car:

Your car has over 1 months MOT.
Your car isn’t an import.
Your vehicle hasn’t ever been subject to an insurance write off or used for private hire, rental, driving tuition or as a police vehicle.
Your car hasn’t a personalised registration plate.
Your car has no damage, including interior and mechanical.
Your car isn't a non-runner
You have two sets of keys
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 27, 2014, 05:02:58 pm
OK. I'll bite.

At one point in the purchase process, there was a place to put in mechanical condition.  In my case I put "poor".  I was given a price.

Then when I took it in I discussed it with the buyer.  I was given the money that came out of the valuation on the internet with no quibbles whatsoever.

Sometimes I absolutely hate some of the know-all codpieces on this forum.  State something about what you did, get called "dishonest".  Then get called a liar.  Nice place.

Vin
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Andy A on March 27, 2014, 05:23:51 pm
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Sometimes I absolutely hate some of the know-all codpieces on this forum.  State something about what you did, get called "dishonest".  Then get called a liar.  Nice place.

Vin

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No.  I discussed it with the buyer and it's just not part of their valuation procedure.  They take no note of mechanical condition.  So you're talking through your hat, I'm afraid.

Vin

Pot, kettle, black  :P

Cod is now an endangered species, don't go cutting them to pieces, Captain Birdseye doesn't like it.

As Toshimuri would say (I'm not saying I agree here though, I'm just quoting for the sake of bulking out this post and prolonging your ridicule) "You should never allow others to control your emotions", which you are suggesting you do with the word "hate", it's all about every action having a reaction, or as the Buddhists know it, Karma, maybe some meditation may help?

Have a word with Tosh, he can get you kitted out with an orange robe and a haircut very cheap, he has connections  ;D
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Andy A on March 27, 2014, 06:10:10 pm
"Not part of their valuation procedure"

"their" = buyer.  "Buyer" was the last noun, so "their", under normal  grammatical rules refers to the buyer.  Sorry that you're unable to read.

Vin

I'm sorry you feel angry, no, really I am (okay, maybe I'm not, but let's pretend I am just to make you feel better, I can tell you need to feel good about yourself).  :P

The companies terms and conditions are the companies terms and conditions, I never rewrote their website, I just linked to it, I can't help, or alter the fact that the website, and the terms and conditions (which represent the legal contract, should you choose to use their service) differ greatly from your personal experience, but then you always get the one  ::)roll

My wife used to act in a similar manner when I get to see the bank statements, but eventually she saw that the situation was futile, living in denial causes stress, have you tried that meditation yet, it really could help.  ;D
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 27, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
You said that "walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing".  That is talking out of your hat.  Note, not lying, but  by one definition "If someone is talking out of their hat, they're talking utter rubbish, especially if compounded with total ignorance of the subject on which they are pontificating."  You've HEARD that's true, so you've repeated it. The rolly eyes are just SO witty.

You've been caught out by someone who's actually sold a car through webuyanycar, and you've turned in desperation to the "you should calm down" routine.

Vin

PS. Do make sure you get the last word in.  Makes you more of a man.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: davids3511 on March 27, 2014, 06:39:51 pm
£800
No chance. These go for well over £1000 and are shipped out of the country.
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: 8weekly on March 27, 2014, 06:47:47 pm
You said that "walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing".  That is talking out of your hat.  Note, not lying, but  by one definition "If someone is talking out of their hat, they're talking utter rubbish, especially if compounded with total ignorance of the subject on which they are pontificating."  You've HEARD that's true, so you've repeated it. The rolly eyes are just SO witty.

You've been caught out by someone who's actually sold a car through webuyanycar, and you've turned in desperation to the "you should calm down" routine.

Vin

PS. Do make sure you get the last word in.  Makes you more of a man.

Well done. Looks like you managed it.  ;D
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: DaveG on March 27, 2014, 06:51:14 pm
I got a car valued by webuyanycar and am still getting emails from them 9 months later, despite unsubscribing!  ??? ???
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Andy A on March 27, 2014, 07:03:04 pm
You said that "walk around knocking off £50 for every mark on the thing".  That is talking out of your hat.  Note, not lying, but  by one definition "If someone is talking out of their hat, they're talking utter rubbish, especially if compounded with total ignorance of the subject on which they are pontificating."  You've HEARD that's true, so you've repeated it. The rolly eyes are just SO witty.

You've been caught out by someone who's actually sold a car through webuyanycar, and you've turned in desperation to the "you should calm down" routine.

Vin

PS. Do make sure you get the last word in.  Makes you more of a man.

Oh dear, here we go, the angry bus is in denial, I sense dollies flying, everyone stay calm, normal service will be resumed shortly  ;D

Having spent more than a few years in the trade I know how it works, and I'm well aware that werobanycar were taken to task by the OFT (office of fair trading) in 2011 for managing to reduce their online quotes given to 96% of customers when they arrived for valuations at their premises, and the company had a training policy where valuers were told to try and reduce the quote by 25%, I'm sure if you google there is plenty on the subject.

So, with that in mind let's look at your statement...

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Their offer was pretty much OK and I was under no pressure to take it.  The reason the offer was fair was that the auto gearbox needed a £2,500 repair and the central locking sender was shot (£1,200).  Neither of those things came into the equation - they didn't even start it.

If the offer was okay due to those facts (facts which you state you disclosed online, despite there being nowhere on their webform for you to state such facts, I know, I've just done a valuation on my car), do you not think that they would go out of business very quickly?

webuyanycar is part of usedcarsupermarket ltd, Rochdale, the way it works is they buy cars from desperate people at a knock down price, and put what they can through the supermarkets, but even if they can't do that due to condition they slap them through BCA (British Car Auctions), having quoted the seller less than CAP price (very different to trade price), they're 99.9% guaranteed a profit by punting back into the trade.

BCA have terms and conditions, and condition reports, traders have to state any known faults, or the sale is invalid as far as BCA are concerned, and they do police their T&C's pretty well, as the biggest auction house in the UK they're trying to get rid of the old reputation of back street auctions, and will happy dump a volume trader if they're pumping rubbish through on a regular basis.

Let's then look at the prices quoted for the repairs, what model was the Jag?

A £2,500 gearbox repair doesn't exist in the trade, simple as that, all garages from main dealer down (even under warranty in some cases) use "transmission specialists", gearbox knackered, simple, slap a recon box in and tell the customer it's been rebuilt, most dealers don't even carry the tools to strip and rebuild them, a lot of the tools are specialised, with limited usage, why invest the money when they can farm the limited number of repairs out and still earn from them?

When you say "central locking sender", do you mean the transponder, electronic control unit, or a solonoid, or maybe even motor and mechanism, £1200 is a lot of money, are you sure on the price?

No rush in replying, simmer down first  :-*






Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Michael Peterson on March 27, 2014, 07:22:28 pm
we sent a ferrari from the garage of for gearbox and it cost a lot more than 2500 :-)
Title: Re: selling van
Post by: Soupy on March 29, 2014, 08:01:13 am
I went on a 'vehicle inspection' training course at an auction house near Perth two weeks ago. There were WeBuyAnyCar employees present.

It is all done by iPad now. The guy loads up the valuation that the punter was given online then follows the inspection process, marking off as he goes any scratches or defects. The program in the iPad then tells the employee what to offer.

Obviously the WeBuyAnyCar employees I spoke to were relatively new, being on a training course as they were. According to them most of their 'customers' so far had been the recently berieved, and the cars they had bought were much newer than you might imagine. One guy actually showed me a car he'd bought from some poor sod who's dad had just killed himself, it was for sale there at the auction. It was a 2008 land rover discovery - he was pleased as punch to tell me he paid £5,500 for it (less than half what it sold for under the hammer). 'Desperate people' is fair.

On the other hand it was also mentioned that sometimes the iPad will return a negative figure. Obviously WeBuyAnyCar are not going to be paid to take something and their employees were told that everything has value even if it is just scrap.


Title: Re: selling van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 29, 2014, 09:25:14 am
Remind me to never argue with Andy A about anything he knows about.

 ;D