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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: david68 on March 23, 2014, 06:19:22 pm
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Here is a con roof i cleaned this weekend, the lichen was terrible and a nightmare to get of.
I used chemical Selden Maxima and diluted it to a high strength.
Sprayed with a backpack and used a good amount.
My experience is i still had to scrub really hard each lichen, so i do not know if the Selden help or not.
If i see this another consevatory i feel the best advice is to avoid,
My pice was £75 and if again i would want £150 (maybe to steep for customer) but it was really hard work.
None stop took 7 hours and in the end i used a hard scrubbing bush which i attached to my clx using gardiner quick release fittings.
David
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wow, although that is a proper class job, i would want about £400 for the time you spent
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wow, although that is a proper class job, i would want about £400 for the time you spent
I know, but i took it as a challenge,
Customer went out before i finished,
Text her today for payment, she said im at work but i have not seen the job yet to see if im happy.
Feel gutted with the comment she made
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ignore it shes a b****, you know how good that job looks
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If you would like the photos to use for anything, Its fine by me
David
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Awesome job but I can't see that taken 7 hours.
I had one twice the size and it took 2 hours for £180.
I presoaked the whole roof for around 20 mins. I then used my lance system to spot treat all of the nasty lichen with a 1:2 ratio of UBIK 2000
Very easy job and have to say worse than yours.
I did how ever used a special brush I made which may have helped.
How long did you leave the TFR on for?
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I can well believe it took 7 hours.
I've spent 5 hours on a smaller roof than that before and there were still a few bits of lichen left that I couldn't remove.
I wouldn't want to do another to be honest.
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Awesome job but I can't see that taken 7 hours.
I had one twice the size and it took 2 hours for £180.
I presoaked the whole roof for around 20 mins. I then used my lance system to spot treat all of the nasty lichen with a 1:2 ratio of UBIK 2000
Very easy job and have to say worse than yours.
I did how ever used a special brush I made which may have helped.
How long did you leave the TFR on for?
Maybe i went wrong somewhere, but i also made a special spot brush, left the chemicals to soak 25 minutes and then before scrubbing resoaked again, the ones hard to reach was the pain.
Was trying Selden as i normaly use Ver-sol.
I will also try the one you mentioned, But i believe it could of been quicker, i did was time manually emptying the gutter by hand as my gutter vac was left at home, also clean all windows and frames
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Also there was a gulley between the two roofs (p shape con), which took some time clearing out the channels full of crap
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I would say it looks like a 2 hour job tops.
I would also say £75 is too cheap.
You live and learn!
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Hang on hang on.
Are you scrubbing the fungus off?
I use a plastic scraper so not damage the panels.
Scrape the worst off. THEN scrub.
Used all you have mentioned. UBIK for me
Is the best. It eats green. Found virosol to be rubbish.
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I would say it looks like a 2 hour job tops.
I would also say £75 is too cheap.
You live and learn!
Yes will live and learn ... But know way would it be two hours the second time around, maybe 4 quickest (one man)
Also the was more lichen on the before picture by the plasic top roof finnals, but never took photo before i started,
The photo with bad lichen was also like that on the photo with the plastic finnal run.
Anyway two hours for you thats great, i would have been happy with my price £75 at that time scale.
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Far too cheap, esp with the lichen
We soak, then scrap using an old Ali channel on a trad pole takes the lichen right off, then a scrub over to finish
Darran
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I would say it looks like a 2 hour job tops.
I would also say £75 is too cheap.
You live and learn!
Yes will live and learn ... But know way would it be two hours the second time around, maybe 4 quickest (one man)
Also the was more lichen on the before picture by the plasic top roof finnals, but never took photo before i started,
The photo with bad lichen was also like that on the photo with the plastic finnal run.
Anyway two hours for you thats great, i would have been happy with my price £75 at that time scale.
I scrapped with 6" squeege channel to the best then followed with a scrubbing brush , i have do i roof this size before in about 1 1/2 hours without much lichen.
I have so many adapters even made my own fitting with my metal lathe and milling machine.
The was not much else i could of made to help make life easier.
Could have to my portable scaffold tower, but was leant out, this would have be good to look down on the job for more pressure, Felt like getting my hard surface cleaner and gx390 pressure washer on it, blast the roof of.
Should of pulled the panels out, steamed the off
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Never mind the experience is a learning curve to add to my cv
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you did well . i hope once she pays up you never go back to her [her comment was horrid]
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I'd be gutted to only earn £75 for 7 hours hard work.
2 hours tops for me.£120.
Pre soak with virosol
Plastic scraper on trad pole for really bad bits
Scrub hard and loads of rinsing with a stiff sill brush
Job done
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£75.00 would be not bad for a first job on a saturday morning 2 hours tops should of done it.
I soap it all up by dipping the brush in virosol and water, scrub for a while (no rinsing for about 20mins)
Then turn the flow on really slow just to get some water funnelling, while you are still scrubbing then when it looks ok give it a good blast rinse! Jobs a Good one!
Good before and after photos like.
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Is ubik2000 the best
I use Tfr and Eco , comes up well .
I've heard about virosel
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David nice work also the price is fine who cares if a job take 2 hours or 7 hours the guy done a nice job for the lady
Good luck David
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I must say I had no idea that window cleaners earning six figure annual salaries were so ubiquitous,but clearly according to all the alleged pricing and hourly rates there's plenty of you earning comfortably £500+ per day = ten grand + per month.....no wonder you're all so smug and full of it !
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I must say I had no idea that window cleaners earning six figure annual salaries were so ubiquitous,but clearly according to all the alleged pricing and hourly rates there's plenty of you earning comfortably £500+ per day = ten grand + per month.....no wonder you're all so smug and full of it !
Hopefully some can count though. £75 / 2 =£37.50 an hour x 7 = around half £500 per day. ;D
The windies on here earning £10 an hour would be better getting a job paying minimum wage.
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All cleaned with a pole? Do you think a conservatory ladder would have been much use??
Good job btw :-)
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Just to add, the job made by the OP is absolutely fantastic and easily worth double what he charged.
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no doubt about it you ve done a great job of that roof mate.
you live and learn and get better and quicker on add ons the more you clean.
if your happy with £75 then fair play.
i remember doing a conny roof for £30 a few years ago and it took me 2 hours!!i was gutted!!hard work for peanuts then as i gained experience and confidence i started charging more and speeding up the cleans.
£50-£60 an hour is the norm now for add on jobs like these.
and NO i dont earn a fortune window cleaning!!better than working in a factory for min wage though!! ;) :)
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It's the time taken people are getting at.
Most have said a two hour job.
So either OP has OCD or technique was way off.
Nobody is knocking the quality of the job.
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I did a con roof thursday just gone £50 i charged took me
a lot longer than ecpected around two and half hours and i was
gutted,cant imagine how i would of felt at 7 hours :(
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Maybe i got attached to my job.. Lol
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Great job David.
Sorry go hear it took twice as long as it should.
Happened to me lots.
Unfortunately it's a learning curve window cleaning no problems but con roofs facia cleaning still have
A few problems.
Want to give a fair price to your customers but don't want to sell yourself short, walking a tight rope for awhile.
Once your an expert David slap an extra £5-£10 on each type of job like that so your get the money back.
Just like insurances 90% of us pay for the 10% of the pi55 takers.
Its happened to all of us; the man that doesn't make mistakes is the one that never did nothing.
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Great job David.
Sorry go hear it took twice as long as it should.
Happened to me lots.
Unfortunately it's a learning curve window cleaning no problems but con roofs facia cleaning still have
A few problems.
Want to give a fair price to your customers but don't want to sell yourself short, walking a tight rope for awhile.
Once your an expert David slap an extra £5-£10 on each type of job like that so your get the money back.
Just like insurances 90% of us pay for the 10% of the pi55 takers.
Its happened to all of us; the man that doesn't make mistakes is the one that never did nothing.
Thanks Lee
Simple to the point fair comment, which is the way i work,
10 years fighting and beating cancer twice, it nice to be working for 7 hours plus.
But i do value all the comments on my post, i have been doing this for 10 years now as a new job, as i felt nobody when give me a job in toolmaking anymore (with my illness).
So i found this forum which help me to setup and learn the trade, never look back.
So first time i have said it..... Thanks cleanitup guys you gave me a purpose to carry on ....Well Done Really
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£75.00 would be not bad for a first job on a saturday morning 2 hours tops should of done it.
I soap it all up by dipping the brush in virosol and water, scrub for a while (no rinsing for about 20mins)
Then turn the flow on really slow just to get some water funnelling, while you are still scrubbing then when it looks ok give it a good blast rinse! Jobs a Good one!
Good before and after photos like.
im confused with what chemical to use because in a previous post you say virosol is rubbish , make up your mind lol ;D
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wow, although that is a proper class job, i would want about £400 for the time you spent
I know, but i took it as a challenge,
Customer went out before i finished,
Text her today for payment, she said im at work but i have not seen the job yet to see if im happy.
Feel gutted with the comment she made
What did she say when she got home?
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She well happy and given me a £20 tip
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£75.00 would be not bad for a first job on a saturday morning 2 hours tops should of done it.
I soap it all up by dipping the brush in virosol and water, scrub for a while (no rinsing for about 20mins)
Then turn the flow on really slow just to get some water funnelling, while you are still scrubbing then when it looks ok give it a good blast rinse! Jobs a Good one!
Good before and after photos like.
im confused with what chemical to use because in a previous post you say virosol is rubbish , make up your mind lol ;D
I am not the same person as H20cleaning ::)roll
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Hi dave, I still got your conservatory roof ladders. Glad your still well. And that job looks nice. Ray
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Nice job.
And thumbs up for sticking to your commitment to continue to clean it and finish the job. Well done that man. I know a couple who would have walked off the job.
If you can get them to make that an annual job for that amount, the next time will be a doddle. In the North East I probably won't have got the job had I quoted £70.00.
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£75.00 would be not bad for a first job on a saturday morning 2 hours tops should of done it.
I soap it all up by dipping the brush in virosol and water, scrub for a while (no rinsing for about 20mins)
Then turn the flow on really slow just to get some water funnelling, while you are still scrubbing then when it looks ok give it a good blast rinse! Jobs a Good one!
Good before and after photos like.
im confused with what chemical to use because in a previous post you say virosol is rubbish , make up your mind lol ;D
I am not the same person as H20cleaning ::)roll
who mentioned h2o cleaning , a bit paranoid are we :D
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£75.00 would be not bad for a first job on a saturday morning 2 hours tops should of done it.
I soap it all up by dipping the brush in virosol and water, scrub for a while (no rinsing for about 20mins)
Then turn the flow on really slow just to get some water funnelling, while you are still scrubbing then when it looks ok give it a good blast rinse! Jobs a Good one!
Good before and after photos like.
im confused with what chemical to use because in a previous post you say virosol is rubbish , make up your mind lol ;D
I am not the same person as H20cleaning ::)roll
who mentioned h2o cleaning , a bit paranoid are we :D
Oh dear
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I soak the roof first with water.
Then apply TFR.
Let is soak in for 10 mins, then start scrubbing.
I then reapply the tfr every 30 - 60 mins.
Lots of scrubbing with a WFP. It is hard work and I don't enjoy these types of jobs. 2 hours is enough time to do a good job.