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Title: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: S.W. Window Cleaning on March 18, 2014, 01:58:32 pm
Hi,
Just starting out and asked to quote for this house. I have attached a rear view + 6 windows on the front. What would be a reasonable price to charge? He`s a friend so don`t want to be too dear.

Cheers,
Steve(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1395151084_1.jpg)
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: James Bulton on March 18, 2014, 02:34:59 pm
I would charge in my area 20 quid .Frames.sills, glass and doors and door canopy. On a 8 weekly cycle. 18 for 4 weekly.
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Post by: paul ette on March 18, 2014, 02:47:52 pm
bout 18 quid
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Post by: supernova77 on March 18, 2014, 02:51:17 pm
£30
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Post by: lal on March 18, 2014, 03:41:17 pm


   £30 to £35 are there windows on the sides.



   Regards
   Lal
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: paul ette on March 18, 2014, 03:42:53 pm
15 to 20 mins work aint it? looks easy
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Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 18, 2014, 03:54:13 pm
Mates rates £20
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Post by: H20cleaning on March 18, 2014, 03:56:26 pm
Up north about £15/£20
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 18, 2014, 04:01:44 pm
flipping heck I would charge 12- 15 and be happy.
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Post by: S.W. Window Cleaning on March 18, 2014, 04:09:14 pm
Some differences in the prices guys. I took an average. Told him £18 and see how we go. The window just above the porch looks ackward. Would you stand on a ladder to do this?
Cheers,
Steve
http://large.img.ppcdn.co.uk/p/161600/1415626.jpg
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: ascjim on March 18, 2014, 04:13:27 pm
mates rates £15.00
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Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 18, 2014, 04:40:19 pm
Nah you should be ok that, even the slightly lower one.

Edit actually that lower one over the porch may cause some issues.

First couple of cleans ladders off then you should be ok from ground :)
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Post by: Ian101 on March 18, 2014, 05:18:53 pm
£18 or £25 bimonthly (which I never offer these days)

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Post by: supernova77 on March 18, 2014, 05:41:14 pm
Quote
15 to 20 mins work aint it? looks easy

Splash and dash ?

 ;)
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Post by: Ian101 on March 18, 2014, 05:45:01 pm
Quote
15 to 20 mins work aint it? looks easy

Splash and dash ?

 ;)

you forgot the "give me the cash" part  ;D
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Post by: paul ette on March 18, 2014, 05:59:51 pm
looking at back pic id go 22 total, 30 mins work tops,
nothin wrong with a bit of splash n dash ;D
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Post by: supernova77 on March 18, 2014, 06:00:39 pm
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15 to 20 mins work aint it? looks easy

Splash and dash ?

 Wink

you forgot the "give me the cash" part  Grin

That part goes without saying  ;)
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 18, 2014, 06:06:54 pm
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.
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Post by: CleanClear on March 18, 2014, 06:13:03 pm
The window just above the porch looks ackward. Would you stand on a ladder to do this?
Cheers,
Steve
http://large.img.ppcdn.co.uk/p/161600/1415626.jpg

Yes i'd say you'll need to step up a ladder a bit to get the bottom of that lower window.
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 18, 2014, 06:22:03 pm
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.

£12? Is that mates rate, or normal rates?
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 18, 2014, 06:27:56 pm
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.

£12? Is that mates rate, or normal rates?

Yeah, probably £15 to be honest. That puts me on my hourly goal. :)
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Post by: dazmond on March 18, 2014, 06:34:27 pm
mates rates?£15 monthly,£17 2 monthly

normal customer?£17 monthly,£20 2 monthly
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Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 18, 2014, 06:35:01 pm
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.

£12? Is that mates rate, or normal rates?

Yeah, probably £15 to be honest. That puts me on my hourly goal. :)

£45 an hour?
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Post by: Window Lickers on March 18, 2014, 07:10:09 pm
£60
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Post by: Ian101 on March 18, 2014, 07:14:58 pm
£60

WHAT !!!!! even Matt Batemen don't charge that high .......... unless your using holy water of course
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Post by: PoleKing on March 18, 2014, 07:46:36 pm
£30.

Don't do mates rates.
It never works long term.
You think you're doing him a favour, he thinks he's paying for the job.
You'd be better off either charging him full price or doing it for free IMO
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Dean Lewis on March 18, 2014, 07:50:15 pm
Mates rate £18 -  Customer £25
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Post by: paul ette on March 18, 2014, 08:15:16 pm
so somewhere between 12 quid and 60 quid, should be really easy to price up now ;D
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Post by: Window Lickers on March 18, 2014, 09:13:37 pm
£60

WHAT !!!!! even Matt Batemen don't charge that high .......... unless your using holy water of course

I understand because of his pricing structure he had his best days earning in 17 years today.
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 18, 2014, 09:53:20 pm
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.

£12? Is that mates rate, or normal rates?

Yeah, probably £15 to be honest. That puts me on my hourly goal. :)

£45 an hour?

Near enough. :)
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Post by: lal on March 18, 2014, 10:03:10 pm

 Mates rate  £25,   Customer rate £30
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Post by: Joey Eastwood on March 18, 2014, 10:29:35 pm
I'd clean that for £14 4weekly £20 alternate
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Post by: dannymack on March 19, 2014, 06:55:20 am
Dean Lewis spot on £25 monthly clean cash !!!

That's down in South, prob be cheaper up North 👍👳👳👳🇬🇧
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: lal on March 19, 2014, 07:05:20 am

  How much would you all charge if it was a one off,  mates rate or customer rate?


  Best Regards
  Lal
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: JackieW on March 19, 2014, 07:22:09 am
''Don't do mates rates.
It never works long term.
You think you're doing him a favour, he thinks he's paying for the job.
You'd be better off either charging him full price or doing it for free IMO''

My sentiments too
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: lal on March 19, 2014, 07:30:38 am
''Don't do mates rates.
It never works long term.
You think you're doing him a favour, he thinks he's paying for the job.
You'd be better off either charging him full price or doing it for free IMO''

My sentiments too

+2
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 19, 2014, 09:40:16 am
Wow,some of the prices here make me  :o

£30!!!!

At half that I'd be very happy.

I'd probably say £12 and it should take me 20 minutes all WFP.

Agreed
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Post by: Graham H on March 19, 2014, 04:21:15 pm
£35 for me
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Post by: Simon Spencer on March 19, 2014, 08:03:10 pm
30m2 of glass, £5 downtime, I'd charge £35.00, 35 mins work.
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Post by: capn sparkle on March 19, 2014, 08:13:53 pm
No mates rates - £20 - Although I clean my best friends for free every 14 weeks approx
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Post by: kempy on March 19, 2014, 10:44:41 pm
£12-£15

The £30 guys are just bull-poopters .
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: lal on March 19, 2014, 10:57:53 pm
£12-£15

The £30 guys are just bull-poopters .

So you think that everyone who quotes price's that are higher than yours are bull-poopters.     ::)roll  ::)roll
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: kempy on March 19, 2014, 11:01:00 pm
Not really ...
Just these threads are pointless .
But £30 , so persons on here are earning £60-£90 per hour yet some moan about £2 gas usage , price of poles and use average poles and old vans ....

So easily to see through persons  here
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 19, 2014, 11:02:04 pm
£12-£15

The £30 guys are just bull-poopters .

So you think that everyone who quotes price's that are higher than yours are bull-poopters.     ::)roll  ::)roll


I don't think that.

I just think If someone like myself was in your area you'd be losing lots of work  :D lol

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Post by: reg on March 19, 2014, 11:05:29 pm
I think £10 and a coffee for a friend / mates rates ...
actual everyday customer £17 on the monthly or down to customers preference
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Post by: ben M on March 19, 2014, 11:08:29 pm
£20 every 6 weeks! i don't have friends
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Post by: Tom-01 on March 20, 2014, 12:26:15 am
Not really ...
Just these threads are pointless .
But £30 , so persons on here are earning £60-£90 per hour yet some moan about £2 gas usage , price of poles and use average poles and old vans ....

So easily to see through persons  here

Not everyone on here who does £60-£90 per hour moans about prices Nd drives old vans.
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Post by: lal on March 20, 2014, 07:02:50 am
Not really ...
Just these threads are pointless .
But £30 , so persons on here are earning £60-£90 per hour yet some moan about £2 gas usage , price of poles and use average poles and old vans ....

So easily to see through persons  here

Not everyone on here who does £60-£90 per hour moans about prices Nd drives old vans.

Tom-01  i agree with you entirely.
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Post by: Clever Forum Name on March 20, 2014, 07:18:02 am
Knew it wouldn't ::)roll ::)roll be long
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Spruce on March 20, 2014, 07:50:59 am
Up north about £15/£20

I tried £20 on an L shaped house twice that size in Nunthorpe (a well to do area) and didn't get the job. I tried £35.00 for a house twice that size with a large conservatory also in Nunthorpe, got it but only every 12 weeks. Did it for a year, now cancelled.

8 years ago, my first job in Nunthorpe was a 3 bedroom bungalow with a small conservatory for £8.00. Her sister has a bungalow twice the size with gorgian style windows and a large conservatory complaining that her window cleaner had just put the price up from £4 to £6 (including conservatory). She felt that it was too much and he didn't do a good job. I did a conservatory roof clean for her and she asked me to quote - £15.00. I suggested she raise the window cleaner's price from £6 to £8 on the provisor that he pay a little more attention to cleaning her windows. She nearly fainted. I didn't find any issues with the quailty of his clean either TBH.

7 years later she drives into her sister's with a brand new Audi A4. She is still paying £6 to that window cleaner.

If you honestly think that you can get a price like that then we need to rethink our pricing policy - upwards, despite having the competition of a large trad company of cleaners that charge £5 back and front for a 3 bed semi in Guisborough - £2.50 fronts.
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Post by: paul ette on March 20, 2014, 08:21:13 am
i think you can charge what you want, some people might think 35 quid for having there windows cleaned is cheap....but a few months down the line someone might knock the door and quote half that, then your gonna get dropped. im not greedy as long as there happy and im bringing in a decent wage im happy.
earning £60 to £90 an hour sounds ridiculous for cleaning windows, doctors and surgeons who save lifes dont earn near that sort of money.
come on bring on the haters ::)roll
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Jonny 87 on March 20, 2014, 08:28:48 am
i think you can charge what you want, some people might think 35 quid for having there windows cleaned is cheap....but a few months down the line someone might knock the door and quote half that, then your gonna get dropped. im not greedy as long as there happy and im bringing in a decent wage im happy.
earning £60 to £90 an hour sounds ridiculous for cleaning windows, doctors and surgeons who save lifes dont earn near that sort of money.
come on bring on the haters ::)roll

+1
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Post by: lal on March 20, 2014, 08:36:30 am
i think you can charge what you want, some people might think 35 quid for having there windows cleaned is cheap....but a few months down the line someone might knock the door and quote half that, then your gonna get dropped. im not greedy as long as there happy and im bringing in a decent wage im happy.
earning £60 to £90 an hour sounds ridiculous for cleaning windows, doctors and surgeons who save lifes dont earn near that sort of money.
come on bring on the haters ::)roll

+1
+2
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 20, 2014, 08:49:49 am
i think you can charge what you want, some people might think 35 quid for having there windows cleaned is cheap....but a few months down the line someone might knock the door and quote half that, then your gonna get dropped. im not greedy as long as there happy and im bringing in a decent wage im happy.
earning £60 to £90 an hour sounds ridiculous for cleaning windows, doctors and surgeons who save lifes dont earn near that sort of money.
come on bring on the haters ::)roll

Doctors are paid all the time they are at work, not just the time they are in front of patients

Doctors get sick pay

Doctors get holiday pay

Doctors get paid for Bank Holidays

Doctors are still paid if their car is in the garage

Doctors don't pay for the equipment they use

Doctors don't pay their own liability insurance

Doctors don't have to pay to find patients

Doctors don't have bad payers, late payers and non payers

Doctors get money back when they use their car for work

Doctors get a pension


Cut that lot out and £60 turns into something much less.  When will people on here learn that your hourly rate on the glass is not the money you take home?

Vin
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Post by: Richard ham on March 20, 2014, 08:54:50 am
£5
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Post by: lal on March 20, 2014, 09:01:18 am
 Pricing a house for a clean varys from one end of the country to the other, you could argue with each other
 till the cows come home that your to expensive or your to cheap, ( Busy Fool) your overpriced, your underpriced.
 Last summer i was asked to price a big house, windows cleaned inside & out, i quoted them 90 euro wasn't
 sure if i would get it or not, he said thats great can you do it now, did the job, he was very happy with the finished
 job paid me 90 euro plus 10 euro tip  :)  he admitted i was the cheapest out of three quotes, the most expensive
 being 230 euro which even shocked me. i think its about finding the right balance with pricing, factoring in all
 the variables.

Best Regards
Lal
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: paul ette on March 20, 2014, 11:58:53 am
Doctors don't claim all there expenses back for their tax ;)
I understand where your coming from tho, but I've always been self employed so don't really no any different
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Post by: paul ette on March 20, 2014, 12:10:11 pm
Just a thought tho, I have seen a big increase in window cleaners and a few are our foreigners who would be over the moon to earn 10 er an hour.
One guy I spoke to used to do car washing at one of the many new foreign car washing places round here.
Isn't it worrying that we might get flooded by lots of 10 pound an hour guys taking all our work.?
My average is around 30 an hour and I'm in the middle for prices, this worries me but if I was earning 60 to 90 an hour I would definately be worried ???
Not getting at anyone for their prices was just a thought
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 20, 2014, 12:14:30 pm
Check the date on this: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=38735.0;all

Vin
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: PoleKing on March 20, 2014, 01:33:05 pm
Just a thought tho, I have seen a big increase in window cleaners and a few are our foreigners who would be over the moon to earn 10 er an hour.
One guy I spoke to used to do car washing at one of the many new foreign car washing places round here.
Isn't it worrying that we might get flooded by lots of 10 pound an hour guys taking all our work.?
My average is around 30 an hour and I'm in the middle for prices, this worries me but if I was earning 60 to 90 an hour I would definately be worried ???
Not getting at anyone for their prices was just a thought

You only need to be worried if you're spending everything you earn.
Top line-unimportant.
Bottom line-that's what counts.
If you earn £30p/h but spend £200 a day, you're left with a tenner.
If you earn £60 p/h but still only spend £200 a day...

And doctors etc NEED to earn that kind of money cause they'll be in debt by 6 figures cause they earn almost nothing for their First 7 years.
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Post by: tlwcs on March 20, 2014, 04:21:07 pm
i think you can charge what you want, some people might think 35 quid for having there windows cleaned is cheap....but a few months down the line someone might knock the door and quote half that, then your gonna get dropped. im not greedy as long as there happy and im bringing in a decent wage im happy.
earning £60 to £90 an hour sounds ridiculous for cleaning windows, doctors and surgeons who save lifes dont earn near that sort of money.
come on bring on the haters ::)roll

You may not get dropped in that example. If someone thinks £35. is ok and they are offered the same service at half the cost, they may just think that is too cheap and doubt the cheaper guys intensions
No hating lol
Tony
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Post by: Ian101 on March 20, 2014, 04:44:41 pm
Beginning to wonder if im too cheap .... thing is you don't know until you try  :(

In North Wales / Chester I would see this at £18 tops ... ok I know Im not the most expensive ... that's Richardisparklyweusegoldplatedwaterinourhotsystem who would prob charge £22 to £24 for this .. point is as far as im aware he does get this rate ... perhaps not every time ?

Between this post and Dazmonds price increase post its giving me serious thought to changing a gear on my pricing ... which is what this forum is about ... making yourself better at the job
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Post by: paul ette on March 20, 2014, 05:25:54 pm
It's crazy tbh , I've priced up jobs and got told it was too much, and also got  :o that's really cheap, sack it I'm gonna put my prices up soon and see what happens

Probably lose all my customers and end up unemployed ;D
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Post by: PoleKing on March 20, 2014, 05:38:41 pm
It's crazy tbh , I've priced up jobs and got told it was too much, and also got  :o that's really cheap, sack it I'm gonna put my prices up soon and see what happens

Probably lose all my customers and end up unemployed ;D

Since being on CIU I've learned a basic rule of thumb is to gain 2/3 of your quotes.
Getting everything you quote-you're too cheap.
Getting none-you're too expensive.

Today, I quoted a house-£50-one off. Didn't get it.
Conservatory roof-£99-one off. Near snapped my arm off!

It's difficult sometimes-thinking of the money you've 'lost' but it's better that way than pricing a £50 job at £30 just to get it. IMO
Title: Re: How Much Should I Charge?
Post by: S.W. Window Cleaning on March 20, 2014, 07:16:03 pm
Yeagh. Got The Job. £18. He was happy and so am I  :)

Thanks for the advice,

Steve