Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Joe Bromley on March 11, 2014, 10:28:25 am
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Anyone signed up to BP or the like for a Fuel Card? Debating the benefits.
Joe
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Waste of time. Even a window cleaning special offer card worked out worse off
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4+ vans maybe yes
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The way I benefit from fuel purchases:
1: Fill up at sainsbury and get Nectar Points
2: Pay with American Express Avios card and get 1.25 avios points for every £1 spent.
3: Pay off american express bill in full at the end of the month and so pay no interest.
Hoping to take the missus to america this year with the points I've earned over the last 2 years. Also, I spend my nectar points in Vue Cinema, so have had about 3 free films this year so far.
IMO this is the only way to benefit from fuel purchases unless you have a pretty substantial fleet.
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Eh? How on earth could you possibly imagine that it is a waste of time. I get mine 5ppl cheaper than even the cheapest price at the pump. Simple. Even without the other benefits (monthly/weekly invoicing, analysis reporting, etc) it is worth it just for the 5ppl saving.
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Yeh the 5ppl is the reason I'm looking into it.
Gunna give it a go anyhoo.
Cheers for the replies.
Joe
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We have fuel card,
as already said we save min 5p per ltr.
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Similar to Pete Thompson above.
1, Fill the van at Tesco station
2, Pay with Tesco Credit card and pay off in full every month.
3, Use Tesco clubcard.
Last year I earnt £92.00 in clubcard points which is £368.00 worth of Pizza Express or Ask restaurant vouchers = keeps the mrs sweet.
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Things must have changed then as whenever we have looked at fuel cards for this business and old business's they have always been in favor of the card owners lol
Who is this with then please OP ?
Cheers
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simple answer here people.
who of you would like to see how much you spend at the pump in a tax year?
Fuel card systems usually allow you to select your complete use all in a minute.
You may pay a little less or little more from week to week but you do have a back up system.
Loads of cards out there and I aint pushing anyone.
Morrisons allows 60 days credit plus points though.
I don't have one of them.
Bp card if there's one near you are also good.
I use fast fuel card but my spend is above £5k a year
shop around but many offer phishing prices to get you onboard.
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??? I can see (as I'm sure you can) how much I have spent on fuel by looking at the fuel entry on my accounts. If you have a fuel card DO NOT pay more than the price at the pump. EVER. Shop around is key. If they try to charge more than the pump price (most send an email on Friday telling you what they will charge in the coming week), phone them up and complain. I have NEVER paid more. There is no point paying more. EVER.
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I had a fuel and for 2 yrs or so it was cheaper than the pump price but now with a lot of cards you pay the average pump price across the UK .
When i complained they always said we emailed you the price which they did and i worked out the cost oddly my calculations were always cheaper than theirs . They start off cheap then the prices creep up better off paying pump price and try making savings elsewhere in the business .
So i decided to get rid of mine as i was putting in £60.00 of fuel and sometimes been invoiced for £62.00 plus an annual fee of £25.00 they became a rip off . It is cheaper for me to use local BP i only put proper Diesel in my truck would not risk Supermarket Diesel . Mike
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can anyone recommend a card ???
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When i complained they always said we emailed you the price which they did and i worked out the cost oddly my calculations were always cheaper than theirs.
And you let them off with that? If they said they would charge you x then charged z that is illegal. You must stay on your toes with them I agree, but they soon get the message if you are on top of them any time there is a discrepancy.
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They start off cheap then the prices creep up better off paying pump price and try making savings elsewhere in the business .
Next to wages, fuel is our top expenditure. Better off making sure they stick to their 5ppl promise....
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can anyone recommend a card ???
I am using UKFUELS at the mo...
I also have dieselpoint and fuel genie but don't use them.
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UKFuels is probably the one I'll get to be honest as I don't want to be limited to BP as Tescos are every 100 meters here.
Cheers for you input on this Soupy mate.
Joe
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anyone use drive card
ANY feed back on them please
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can anyone recommend a card ???
I am using UKFUELS at the mo...
I also have dieselpoint and fuel genie but don't use them.
UKFUELS is who i was with i used to deal with a local company who was part of that business and only had 1 or 2 issues and things were sorted promtly ,
Then their was a big takeover from then on i had to deal with an office down south and they were totally useless i sent emails and phoned and got nowhere after been messed about i cancelled my account by emailing my account manage directly as he would never return phone calls .
Never heard anything for 2 weeks until he phoned up asking why i cancelled my direct debit and that i owed the annual fee which was now due to be paid .
Now apparently he never got any of my messages or emails informing him how unhappy i was with the service i was receiving and neither did he receive my cancellation notice via email or using the cancellation form on their website .
Absolutely bunch of idiots who dont have a clue what they are doing , I have saved money buy cutting down on collecting and over the next few months my fuel bill will continue to reduce . Mike
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Fell out with ukfuels today as it happens. Overcharged, as yet unresolved.
We'll see what happens I suppose...
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Best of luck ;) ;) , The first thing they said to me was they will get back to me when they have looked into it nothing happened until i phoned them back then they said i was now been charged the UK average price .
Which despite on the invoice it states the price per litre excluding vat which was the price i was emailed the way in which they did their calculations on invoice the total always meant i was been over charged .
I have a BP garage less than 5 minutes from my house i no longer see the point they promise you a good price to start with then because changes in oil prices etc the prices go up .
It was good to have an invoice rather than a small till receipt but the savings can almost be wiped out by the annual card fee in the end i worked out on my usage i was probably saving about £25 a year . Mike
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They waived the annual fee and the set up fee. I have stopped their direct debit and will not pay until they credit me the difference. It is only pennies but it is the principal.
Dieselpoint tried similar but always fixed it with one phone call. The reason I switched was that ukfuels can be used in more places. I will switch back if they keep playing silly buggers.
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They have charged me 0.02 ppl more than the pump price. Which is 5.02 ppl more than their advised price. Apparently my 'account manager' is in a 'meeting'. Set of effing bandits.
Dieselpoint were also bandits. At least my account manager there isn't a coward.
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I have been offered stuff like his before but I only have one van and I could always better the deal offered. I have two big supermarkets near me that sell fuel so the clubcard or nectar points help and there are often other discounts too. The best deal I ever had was from Tesco. They offered 10p per litre off if you bought a particular bag of coffee for about £7. They allowed 5 vouchers per transaction. So I spent 5 x £7 on coffee (£35) and then put 85 litres of diesel in (85 x 50p discount). So £35 spent on coffee. £42.50 discount on fuel. They effectively paid me £7.50 to take their coffee away. It was a brand that I like and would normally buy. It lasted me a very long time.
Cheers Tesco !
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I had the call from UKFuels yesterday.
Was gonna go for it until I read this thread.
Sidebar:
Does anyone KNOW the (indeed if there is any) difference between supermarket fuel, branded (eg BP or something) and 'ultimate' diesel?
Not petrol, I can see the octane changes.
Just diesel.
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Apparently their is additional additives in standard BP diesel etc , I know of 3 people who only ever filled up with supermarket diesel and have had to replace injectors which was down to crap diesel . Mike
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New Tesco offer: for every £50 you spend in their shops or delivered, you get 2p per litre. It add s up over the month to a maximum of 20p per litre. All run via Clubcard.
Details, Ts & Cs etc but worth it if you usually shop there. I could end up with £13 off a tank the way we use Tesco.
Vin
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supermarkets have had the additives taken out at the refinery, hence a few pence less
the branded fuel, shell,bp etc have the additive added at the refinery
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Cheers boys.
Where did you get your info from?
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We run 9 vehicles and they each have KEYFUEL cards, we pay a fixed price per litre at any garage that accepts the cards, regardless of their pump price, the price is emailed each week to us.
This week we are paying £1.09/ltr +vat (£1:308) which is about 5p cheaper that the supermarkets around us.
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Managed to get UKFUELS sorted. A phonecall to the line manager and everything sorted.
If any of you fancy taking on a fuelcard beware you need to be on your toes but there is money to be saved. It is all well and good fannying around with discount coupons from Tesco but that is hardly a long term money saving strategy for a business.
Oh, and if you do go for one let me know and I will recommend you and get a discount coupon. ;D
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Managed to get UKFUELS sorted. A phonecall to the line manager and everything sorted.
If any of you fancy taking on a fuelcard beware you need to be on your toes but there is money to be saved. It is all well and good fannying around with discount coupons from Tesco but that is hardly a long term money saving strategy for a business.
Oh, and if you do go for one let me know and I will recommend you and get a discount coupon. ;D
You're better off just quitting.
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You're probably right.
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You're probably always right.
FTFY
You it feeling the WC love Soupy?
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I'm all about love in the WC. That is how I roll.
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I'm all about love in the WC. That is how I roll.
Just did a mini-sick in my mouth.