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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: S.W. Window Cleaning on March 07, 2014, 05:03:36 pm
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Got My Van Fitted With New Graphics Today. What Do You Think? Getting My System Installed Next Week And Then Its Door Knocking For Me :)
Steve
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I like it mate. Simple and to the point :)
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Is your name Allbright? Otherwise its two words.
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Looks good ....just to let you know, I cant find your website
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Yes Website Not Live Yet. Just Building It
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http://www.allbrightandshiny.co.uk/
it says test......
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Yes its live & registered but being worked on at mo
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I think it looks good clear and easy to read.
But I think putting starting at £7, is not good, as everyone will expect a price around this figure.
Roy
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Hi Roy,
Yes im just starting out and happy for what I can get. Will soon put it up once I get going. This is for a 1 bedroom flat!!
Steve :)
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how long have you been window cleaning
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Haven`t been at all. Just new.
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Slightly confused, are you the same as the other albright and shiny on the forum?(same logo, colour scheme etc....)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=30896
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I can appreciate it is to attract people attention. And I hope it all turns out great for you.
I have been cleaning now 30yrs, and when I first started I under priced my self as most do.
How did you fund the van and equipment? As we started with ladders and chamois and the squeegees, and starting up was just about £80.
Roy
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Another thing that's missing is a roof rack !!! 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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I can appreciate it is to attract people attention. And I hope it all turns out great for you.
I have been cleaning now 30yrs, and when I first started I under priced my self as most do.
How did you fund the van and equipment? As we started with ladders and chamois and the squeegees, and starting up was just about £80.
Roy
All us windys are minted did you not know ;D ;D ;D . Mike
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Slightly confused, are you the same as the other albright and shiny on the forum?(same logo, colour scheme etc....)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=30896
The logo is generic, but the name??? weird :)
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Looks good :)
What system are you getting fitted?
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They are not the same trading names, not that it matters, The op is allbright ,jims is albright
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No Different Allbright. He Is Albright and I have an extra L. Allbright.
Im getting a 650 litre hot system fitted by Arthur at Sureclean. Getting SLX poles which will fit in van. I have done my research :)
System bought cash from savings. Bought new van on cheap finance as want to keep it for a few years.
Steve
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Its easier to find customer at a price were you can make a profit than find them and then move up your price. At seven pound you are squarely in the cheap market and will find it difficult to move up market by say 5 quid more if you under priced. If it was me I would never go under a tenner.Only my thoughts ,Mate. ??? ??? \But van looks nice.
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Don`t worry Im not working for nothing. If I find it a problem then its easy to change price on door.
Steve
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from £7? lol
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I think it looks good clear and easy to read.
But I think putting starting at £7, is not good, as everyone will expect a price around this figure.
Roy
agree with the £7 bit
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You've just totally ripped off Albrightandshiny's name, logo and colour scheme. You better hope he's in a generous mood after that because that name, logo and colour scheme is trademarked as far as I am aware.
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You've just totally ripped off Albrightandshiny's name, logo and colour scheme. You better hope he's in a generous mood after that because that name, logo and colour scheme is trademarked as far as I am aware.
Something aint right, check out the van!
http://www.albrightandshiny.co.uk/home/4581028711
Can OP explain?
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You've just totally ripped off Albrightandshiny's name, logo and colour scheme. You better hope he's in a generous mood after that because that name, logo and colour scheme is trademarked as far as I am aware.
Something aint right, check out the van!
http://www.albrightandshiny.co.uk/home/4581028711
Can OP explain?
The only original thing he's added is the 'from £7.00' which is the worst thing on the van. Wonder what the website will look like?
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why would you totally rip off another guys sign writing and name? ???
i wouldnt be happy and id be paying him a visit with a few friends >:(
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There will be more to it, stop the witch hunt lol
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Ladies and Gentlemen.
Albright and Shiny Ltd has registered the Trade mark Albright and Shiny. Any misrepresentation of this name is breach of that trade mark . One L or two makes no difference. Check it out with the Intellectual property office.
The Livery shown in the Pictures saved on here are a direct lift from Images designed specifically for Albright and Shiny and are subject to copyright. The Images uploaded to the website have been saved as evidence for any future legal action.
The Person who has placed this online has received an Email from me advising that continuing with these breaches will result in legal action..
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Having read through the posts the From £7 is part of early design PDF's .
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Slightly confused, are you the same as the other albright and shiny on the forum?(same logo, colour scheme etc....)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=30896
The logo is generic, but the name??? weird :)
The Logo isn't actually generic, It may seem so but I thad a Graphic designer make me a specific version of the Orange man.. Just for Albright and Shiny Ltd..
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Just in case anyone is under any illusion. This is a direct lift from the Intellectual property office website.
Infringement
What is trade mark infringement?
If you use an identical or similar trade mark for identical or similar goods and services to a registered trade mark - you may be infringing the registered mark if your use creates a likelihood of confusion on the part of the public. This includes the case where because of the similarities between the marks the public are led to the mistaken belief that the trade marks, although different, identify the goods or services of one and the same trader.
Where the registered mark has a significant reputation, infringement may also arise from the use of the same or a similar mark which, although not causing confusion, damages or takes unfair advantage of the reputation of the registered mark. This can occasionally arise from the use of the same or similar mark for goods or services which are dissimilar to those covered by the registration of the registered mark.
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I have done my research :)
Steve
seems like it yes you have done your research must of been hard work ripping off someone else image :( :(
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Slightly confused, are you the same as the other albright and shiny on the forum?(same logo, colour scheme etc....)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=30896
The logo is generic, but the name??? weird :)
The Logo isn't actually generic, It may seem so but I thad a Graphic designer make me a specific version of the Orange man.. Just for Albright and Shiny Ltd..
Yeah it's the orange man I see everywhere.
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Is a bit of a dumass thing to do, copying the name AND the logo....lol come on u greedy shyt
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Take it as a compliment ;D only kidding, its your hard work and design etc ..He should of checked for copyright but probably thought it wouldn't be copyrighted. I think he is in Ireland, have you thought about letting him use it under license $$$
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is this a wind up????
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childish bickering
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Sorry can i just point out something please?
Although he has clearly ripped off someones artwork, and I 100& Agree that this is wrong, where is the TM markings or C symbols?
I have been looking at Albright and Shiny Ltd's website and van and he has failed to include these symbols on his artwork. This if i am not mistaken is one of the requirements of copywright law.
Set me straight if im wrong. I always make sure my artwork is protected. if you look carefully my logos all have the symbol.
(http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab277/Marc_Stock/stockcleanvan_zps41095fd9.jpg) (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/Marc_Stock/media/stockcleanvan_zps41095fd9.jpg.html)
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childish bickering
Really? You say some astoundingly daft things on here but that takes the biscuit. Someone's spent time and money creating a design and a brand, they have trademarked their design, name and logo and you think it's childish to defend that?
Vin
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Sorry can i just point out something please?
Although he has clearly ripped off someones artwork, and I 100& Agree that this is wrong, where is the TM markings or C symbols?
I have been looking at Albright and Shiny Ltd's website and van and he has failed to include these symbols on his artwork. This if i am not mistaken is one of the requirements of copywright law.
Set me straight if im wrong. I always make sure my artwork is protected. if you look carefully my logos all have the symbol.
Doesn't have to be on there. Source: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-manage/t-enforce.htm
Vin
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IPO gave me a nice certificate showing my trade mark is registered. That is sufficient in law.
There is no requirement for the use of the R or TM on anything public facing material.
Im not getting into any more discussions about the legality of Trade marks.
I a otherwise engaged.
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I came up with the name & sign man came up with orange sign. I wanted a man with a pole as im only doing wfp.
Yes Im in Ireland.
I added the price as nobody over here seems to have it. Thought it might help.
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Oh i see.
S.W you are in the poo poo.
now im looking at IP in more detail.
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Oh i see.
S.W you are in the poo poo.
now im looking at IP in more detail.
I'm not sure (from the note I link to above) that the (C) symbol will protect you. Trademarking cost us a couple of hundred quid (as it did for Jim above). Looks expensive until something like this happens, when it suddenly looks dirt cheap.
Vin
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Unbelievable :o
And have the nerve to post it on here too.
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It's a windup.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1394226499_phpfHuRtzPM.jpg)
and Jims (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1394227355_Jims.jpg)
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It's a windup.
If not, of all the fellas to copy. It's really unfortunate to pick a trademarked fella.
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How do you post a picture like that? I could only get it as an attachment.
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It's a windup.
If not, of all the fellas to copy. It's really unfortunate to pick a trademarked fella.
I am speechless if that ain't a wind up.
What the hell man
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I came up with the name & sign man came up with orange sign. I wanted a man with a pole as im only doing wfp.
Yes Im in Ireland.
I added the price as nobody over here seems to have it. Thought it might help.
YOU added the price idea? You absolutely certain of that?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=176423.msg1491087#msg1491087
Vin
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This is nothing like the other chaps. Mine has different spelling on name, doesn`t have a Freephone number and has a price on the door.
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Oh and by the way. You are offering some thing for free it says so on you Facebook page free garage door lol you plum
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This is nothing like the other chaps. Mine has different spelling on name, doesn`t have a Freephone number and has a price on the door.
That has got to be the funniest thing i have ever read on here. "Nothing like the other chaps"
LMAO
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Oh and by the way. You are offering some thing for free it says so on you Facebook page free garage door lol you plum
link plz ;D
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https://m.facebook.com/pages/All-Bright-Shiny-Window-Cleaning/223723907817428?id=223723907817428&fref=ts&_rdr
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Er.....didnt realise i'd blow all this up, i thought it was the same bloke at first on a wind up!!!! Only noticed as i'd seen the original around locally!!!!
If this isnt a wind up, S.W seems you may have made a bit of a costly boo boo, i would maybe spend the time having a bit of a word with the guy that designed it all for you...
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Steve. I suggest you reply to my emails very quickly. This can be remedied simply.. All you have to do is communicate.. Im a reasonable man all I need is some evidence that you are no longer masquerading as albright & Shiny Ltd..
Contact me..
Just in case the email I sent my correspondence to is bogus. I can be contacted at windows@albrightandshiny.co.uk
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Hi Jim,
Sorry just in. I haven`t been on email. Will check it now.
Cheers,
Steve
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Thanks I await your reply.
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Reply Sent. Thanks
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I didn`t know this name was registered so will change it. At least I hadn`t my flyers done Apologies to Jim for causing him stress over this. Just Need To Think Of A good Name Now.
Steve
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I didn`t know this name was registered so will change it. At least I hadn`t my flyers done Apologies to Jim for causing him stress over this. Just Need To Think Of A good Name Now.
Steve
What about SW Window Cleaning?
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Yes That Might Be An Idea. Its Not As Catchy But Nobody Else Would Have It Hopefully.
Thanks,
Steve
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SWindow cleaning?
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copyyourdesigncleaningcompany.com
Weuseyourideasforwindowcleaning.com
Welikeyourdesignsowewilluseit.com
Albrightforhimallbrightforme.com
Honestitsnothinglikeyourdesign.com
Just a few ideas for domains get in quick ;D
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copyyourdesigncleaningcompany.com
Weuseyourideasforwindowcleaning.com
Welikeyourdesignsowewilluseit.com
Albrightforhimallbrightforme.com
Honestitsnothinglikeyourdesign.com
Just a few ideas for domains get in quick ;D
Lols. 2 posts and you're abusing.
You'll fit in well fella
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Peeps, Having emailed Back and forth with Steve its clear that, being new to business he was simply naive in his thinking. We have sorted this out and I'm hoping that he finds a catchy name soon. I have offered to help him with any advice he needs and Id urge the rest of the forum to help him get on his feet..
All sorted..
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Peeps, Having emailed Back and forth with Steve its clear that, being new to business he was simply naive in his thinking. We have sorted this out and I'm hoping that he finds a catchy name soon. I have offered to help him with any advice he needs and Id urge the rest of the forum to help him get on his feet..
All sorted..
Kudos to you both
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Simple thanks to all you peeps on the forum, your support was appreciated..
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copyyourdesigncleaningcompany.com
Weuseyourideasforwindowcleaning.com
Welikeyourdesignsowewilluseit.com
Albrightforhimallbrightforme.com
Honestitsnothinglikeyourdesign.com
Just a few ideas for domains get in quick ;D
;D
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What a classic thread
;)
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I didn`t know this name was registered so will change it. At least I hadn`t my flyers done Apologies to Jim for causing him stress over this. Just Need To Think Of A good Name Now.
Steve
Try writing down every name you can think of without judgment. Just write them as they come up. Do that for a couple of days.
Give it a day to let your mind go off the subject then scratch out everything that's utterly mad. You'll have a useable shortlist.
Then check that what you've chosen isn't being used - a google search is a good start (Perfect Windows was in use. Fortunately, only in Canada).
Good luck.
Vin
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Funny thread, the denials were quality.
There has probably been ~50 different van wraps put on here over the years and you went a ripped off probably the only design which is trademarked, then posted the pics on the very forum you skanked the design from!
Fair play for eventually owning up though.
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I name I've always quite liked is:
Big Shiny Windows
There is a company in America with the name... But not in the UK that I know of.
Andy
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Try "Ionics" got a sort of ring to it - don't see many around with that name.
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Reach and wash is a good name....
You may be able to put a logo of a man holding a wfp aswell, should look good ;D
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Funny thread, the denials were quality.
There has probably been ~50 different van wraps put on here over the years and you went a ripped off probably the only design which is trademarked, then posted the pics on the very forum you skanked the design from!
Fair play for eventually owning up though.
Lmao
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He's going to have fun pulling all that sign writing off.
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Oh i see.
S.W you are in the poo poo.
now im looking at IP in more detail.
I'm not sure (from the note I link to above) that the (C) symbol will protect you. Trademarking cost us a couple of hundred quid (as it did for Jim above). Looks expensive until something like this happens, when it suddenly looks dirt cheap.
Vin
copywright protects the artwork on the van itself. not the name. but after reading this i might trademark mine now too.
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Oh i see.
S.W you are in the poo poo.
now im looking at IP in more detail.
I'm not sure (from the note I link to above) that the (C) symbol will protect you. Trademarking cost us a couple of hundred quid (as it did for Jim above). Looks expensive until something like this happens, when it suddenly looks dirt cheap.
Vin
Innacurate . The name is protected. I have the certificates to prove it..
copywright protects the artwork on the van itself. not the name. but after reading this i might trademark mine now too.