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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: poleman on February 25, 2014, 08:42:59 pm

Title: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: poleman on February 25, 2014, 08:42:59 pm
http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/11035642.Malborough_window_cleaner_airlifted_after_fall/
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: Bill.upnw on February 25, 2014, 08:52:20 pm
Harsh that isnt it
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Post by: dazmond on February 25, 2014, 08:52:41 pm
is it someone off here? ???

his surname rings a bell. :(
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Post by: dave f on February 25, 2014, 09:00:21 pm
i feel very sorry for the guy .sooner theirs a ladder ban or some form of enforceable legislation the better imo and stop these unfortunate accidents
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: poleman on February 25, 2014, 09:02:55 pm
is it someone off here? ???

his surname rings a bell. :(

Yes I was thinking the same but aim sure he is WFP  :-\
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Post by: Johnny B on February 25, 2014, 10:35:15 pm
is it someone off here? ???

his surname rings a bell. :(

Rings a bell with me too. Hope he's going to be alright.

John
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: Johnny B on February 25, 2014, 10:40:59 pm
i feel very sorry for the guy .sooner theirs a ladder ban or some form of enforceable legislation the better imo and stop these unfortunate accidents


Ladders don't need to be banned. They need to be used responsibly.

As I've already said, I hope he makes a full recovery.

John
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Post by: robertphil on February 25, 2014, 10:44:44 pm
defo seen his name on here
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Post by: Dave Willis on February 25, 2014, 10:45:50 pm
Probably thinking of David - guy with the same surname.

Hope he's ok.
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Post by: PoleKing on February 25, 2014, 11:04:22 pm
All the best to him.

Not to nitpick but surely he didn't fall 30 feet.
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Post by: Window Lickers on February 25, 2014, 11:21:39 pm
David Salkeld.


http://www.dsalkeldltd.co.uk
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Post by: Tom White on February 25, 2014, 11:26:12 pm
is it someone off here? ???

his surname rings a bell. :(

Ours was a David and he used a backpack.  And this guy - so the article says - fell through a conservatory roof.

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Window cleaner Robin Salkeld was airlifted to hospital on Monday lunchtime after he fell from a ladder and through a conservatory roof of a house at The Green, Marlborough.

I think I've done a race at Marlborough; lots of extremely big and posh houses there.
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: rosskesava on February 26, 2014, 01:00:50 am
How do you fall off a ladder and through a conservatory roof?

I've never ever used a ladder over a conservatory roof.

Not only that, you don't just 'fall' from a ladder for no reason.

There's not enough information from the article to draw any type of conclusion.
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: oldman on February 26, 2014, 03:49:32 am
The ladder doesn't have to be over the conservatory roof.
He could've been cleaning a window 30' up, but to the side of the conservatory roof, ladder falls one-way and the guy falls the other-way onto and through the roof.
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Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 26, 2014, 07:42:44 am
Seen him post on FB all the time. Funny guy.

Hope he ok.
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 26, 2014, 04:45:57 pm
Seen him post on FB all the time. Funny guy.

Hope he ok.

Doubt it. So completely unnecessary.
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Post by: stan stansfield on February 26, 2014, 07:38:41 pm
i feel very sorry for the guy .sooner theirs a ladder ban or some form of enforceable legislation the better imo and stop these unfortunate accidents
would you refuse to have sky fitted unless they used a cherry picker
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: idealrob on February 26, 2014, 08:28:32 pm
i feel very sorry for the guy .sooner theirs a ladder ban or some form of enforceable legislation the better imo and stop these unfortunate accidents
would you refuse to have sky fitted unless they used a cherry picker

No Sky abide by the law, try and cover all the risks, wear a helmet & secure the ladder as per WAHR, have correct training, and walk away when job cant be done safely. Ladders are still safe if used correctly, and for short periods.

idealrob
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Post by: rosskesava on February 26, 2014, 10:58:09 pm
The ladder doesn't have to be over the conservatory roof.
He could've been cleaning a window 30' up, but to the side of the conservatory roof, ladder falls one-way and the guy falls the other-way onto and through the roof.

That would still be using a ladder incorrectly.
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Post by: stan stansfield on February 26, 2014, 10:59:36 pm
its always incorrect if you fall off
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Post by: Tom White on February 26, 2014, 11:01:29 pm
i feel very sorry for the guy .sooner theirs a ladder ban or some form of enforceable legislation the better imo and stop these unfortunate accidents
would you refuse to have sky fitted unless they used a cherry picker

No Sky abide by the law, try and cover all the risks, wear a helmet & secure the ladder as per WAHR, have correct training, and walk away when job cant be done safely. Ladders are still safe if used correctly, and for short periods.

idealrob

Agree.  I saw a sky fitter phone for help because he couldn't work out how to use his ladders on a sideways slope on the ground.  I could've done it in ten minutes with a couple of laddermats, but he had to phone the boss to come and help.

No joke.  I heard the call and later saw the 2nd sky van turn up.  They were kitted out like they were going to climb Mount Everest.
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: simon w on February 26, 2014, 11:02:44 pm
is it someone off here? ???

his surname rings a bell. :(

Ours was a David and he used a backpack.  And this guy - so the article says - fell through a conservatory roof.

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Window cleaner Robin Salkeld was airlifted to hospital on Monday lunchtime after he fell from a ladder and through a conservatory roof of a house at The Green, Marlborough.

I think I've done a race at Marlborough; lots of extremely big and posh houses there.

Marlborough has a lot of long distance athletic history. Bruce Tulloh worked at the school and coached Richard Nerurkar who was a first class long distance athlete, his wife also a remarkable long distance runner
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: rosskesava on February 27, 2014, 12:09:46 am
No Sky abide by the law, try and cover all the risks, wear a helmet & secure the ladder as per WAHR, have correct training, and walk away when job cant be done safely. Ladders are still safe if used correctly, and for short periods.

idealrob

The problem is often that window cleaners become complacent. They think that because nothing happened the last 10, 20, 100 or 200 times they done that, no accident or fall happened so therefore it's safe.

That is why it's so important to understand what 'risk' actually is as opposed to what some 'think' risk is.

It's like those that drive too close to the car in front which is so common place. They think that because they've being doing that for yonks without an accident that the rules about a safe distance from the car in front don't apply to them and are not needed because they know what is a safe distance from not having having an accident.
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Post by: Geoff on February 27, 2014, 08:44:28 am
And they also don't appreciate that there's some crazy like me about to slam the brakes on in order to make them smash into the back of my car.  I can then get out with the baseball bat and set about them.
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 01, 2014, 09:00:58 am
And they also don't appreciate that there's some crazy like me about to slam the brakes on in order to make them smash into the back of my car.  I can then get out with the baseball bat and set about them before putting in a claim for whiplash.

FTFY Geoffrey! ;D
Title: Re: 30ft ladder fall
Post by: TomCrowther on March 01, 2014, 10:37:39 am
Sky engineers have to drill an eye bolt into the wall about two feet off the ground. Then fix the ladder to the bolt ensuring the ladder is at the correct angle before using it. A mate of mine had a dish fixed only about eight feet from the ground level and they still had to use the safety measures.
It seems like overkill but it will stop them becoming complacent. My mate had to tick a box saying it was ok to fix ladder to the wall etc.