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Title: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on February 24, 2014, 07:43:56 pm
any of you lads doin a santander  for ARL , have you had a mail telling you the conditions have changed?   i have theyre wanting the screens on the counter doing / entrance wall and door closer doing for no increase in price .
  what dyou think ?
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: PoleKing on February 24, 2014, 07:45:51 pm
Depends how much you need the work.

I had a change similar for another company recently.
They just wrote on the bottom of each chit sheet xxx not done.
Still got paid.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 24, 2014, 07:47:16 pm
Halifax just done the same to us, just ignored it as the cleaner does em anyway.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on February 24, 2014, 07:50:44 pm
Halifax just done the same to us, just ignored it as the cleaner does em anyway.
who are you doing it for ?

 i was doin 2 tesco full size for ARL but theyv lost the contract .  and havnt been cleaned since mid Jan now .          im waitin to see them get cleaned  by somebody new -then i will drop santander , daft money anyway
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 24, 2014, 08:10:09 pm
Will try and find out. It's not
My contract. I just clean it for a
Mate as he does some for me local to him.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Don Kee on February 24, 2014, 08:12:30 pm
Mate of mine had a chat to s couple of lads doing a tesco a couple of weeks ago, sure he said it was for mitie....
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Tom-01 on February 24, 2014, 08:19:45 pm
Would it not be better to drop doing work like that for Nationals and use the time canvassing decent paid work? I've never done any sub work for a National but everyone says the money isn't good at all. Just a thought.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on February 24, 2014, 08:36:04 pm
Would it not be better to drop doing work like that for Nationals and use the time canvassing decent paid work? I've never done any sub work for a National but everyone says the money isn't good at all. Just a thought.
 mostly doing it for a change of scene  .   i think the santander contract  is with ICM "lets keep it clean"   well thats whats on the docket paperwork , i guess that ARL sub it then sub it again to the likes of me
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Ian101 on February 24, 2014, 10:06:40 pm
any of you lads doin a santander  for ARL , have you had a mail telling you the conditions have changed?   i have theyre wanting the screens on the counter doing / entrance wall and door closer doing for no increase in price .
  what dyou think ?

offer to do the insides of the bandit screens and give yourself a pay rise  ;)
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: concept on March 03, 2014, 09:42:05 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 04, 2014, 03:50:54 pm
any of you lads doin a santander  for ARL , have you had a mail telling you the conditions have changed?   i have theyre wanting the screens on the counter doing / entrance wall and door closer doing for no increase in price .
  what dyou think ?

Run Forest run!
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: jarvy on March 04, 2014, 04:16:14 pm
LOL, you really think you are gonna make good money subbing work and making money for 2 or 3 or 4 other higher up the chain?
Its a mugs game.
I run my business to make money for me, not other people.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 04, 2014, 04:32:13 pm
LOL, you really think you are gonna make good money subbing work and making money for 2 or 3 or 4 other higher up the chain?
Its a mugs game.
I run my business to make money for me, not other people.

Quite right!
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on March 04, 2014, 08:40:57 pm
since starting the thread iv had 3 further emails from ARL , tellin me the contracts soon up and theyre worried us cleaners might not be up to scratch so we all must pull our finger out.   apparently Santander big bosses are doin spot checks on the window cleaning standards across the country . 
  its ridiculous ,a 7 pound job
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: rz on March 04, 2014, 08:47:42 pm
all the Santander agencies will be shuting soon so unless your cleaning main branches run away now.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: PoleKing on March 04, 2014, 09:15:34 pm
since starting the thread iv had 3 further emails from ARL , tellin me the contracts soon up and theyre worried us cleaners might not be up to scratch so we all must pull our finger out.   apparently Santander big bosses are doin spot checks on the window cleaning standards across the country . 
  its ridiculous ,a 7 pound job

Just stop going.
Stop invoicing.
Ignore their calls.
Do you honestly think you're gonna get chucked? Or forced to lower prices?
You'll feel much better walking away than getting binned.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on March 04, 2014, 09:23:03 pm
im hanging on until i see the Tescos i was also doing (ARL lost contract  for them in the new year]  get cleaned, just in case im asked to restart doing them by whoever has now got the tesco contracts ,the santanders  fit in with them.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: deeege on March 04, 2014, 09:26:02 pm
I do a little bit of national work, no small £7 jobs though, only big stores at £45+ per clean.

Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: wfp master on March 04, 2014, 09:43:46 pm
LOL, you really think you are gonna make good money subbing work and making money for 2 or 3 or 4 other higher up the chain?
Its a mugs game.
I run my business to make money for  me, not other people.
correct. Why do it to line other peoples pockets.
Get your own & the £££££ are all yours. As you said its a mugs game but some still do it.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: wfp master on March 04, 2014, 09:59:06 pm
Would it not be better to drop doing work like that for Nationals and use the time canvassing decent paid work? I've never done any sub work for a National worknal but everyone says the money isn't good at all. Just a thought.
its bottom of the ladder stuff as they say.
Some think its top of the ladder working for a small piece of the cake.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: PoleKing on March 04, 2014, 10:09:37 pm
It's not all bad.
I cleaned for Window Clean UK.
Last job I did was £20 for 20 minutes work.
And £5 on a drive by for 1 window and 1 door.
Most national subbing-crap. But not all.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: deeege on March 05, 2014, 06:09:12 am
Would it not be better to drop doing work like that for Nationals and use the time canvassing decent paid work? I've never done any sub work for a National worknal but everyone says the money isn't good at all. Just a thought.
its bottom of the ladder stuff as they say.
Some think its top of the ladder working for a small piece of the cake.

You carry on thinking like that!

Let me tell you though, there is some top quality work out there that happens to be subbed from national WC companies. I'm not talking £7 shops for companies that will do all they can to wriggle out of paying. I'm talking large national stores that pay very good money to the right companies to keep their spotless image intact. £500 and £800 per month contracts are not uncommon for the right stores, with a comparable hourly rate to some of my best domestic work.

Anyway, I'm off to earn a nice chunk (doing a national contract) whilst you sleep.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: cgh window cleaning on March 05, 2014, 07:30:33 am
M & s is now serviced by antac by there own staff.
I sub the Arcadia group shops(top shop,miss selfridge etc)all nice easy jobs and not one is a bad price.
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: wfp master on March 05, 2014, 04:17:48 pm
Would it not be better to drop doing work like that for Nationals and use the time canvassing decent paid work? I've never done any sub work for a National worknal but everyone says the money isn't good at all. Just a thought.
its bottom of the ladder stuff as they say.
Some think its top of the ladder working for a small piece of the cake.

You carry on thinking like that!

Let me tell you though, there is some top quality work out there that happens to be subbed from national WC companies. I'm not talking £7 shops for companies that will do all they can to wriggle out of paying. I'm talking large national stores that pay very good money to the right companies to keep their spotless image intact. £500 and £800 per month contracts are not uncommon for the right stores, with a comparable hourly rate to some of my best domestic work.

Anyway, I'm off to earn a nice chunk (doing a national contract) whilst you sleep.
i like my sleep ;) i dont want a chunk i want the whole cake. :) cause iam a greedy ******. ;D
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 06, 2014, 10:10:22 pm
im hanging on until i see the Tescos i was also doing (ARL lost contract  for them in the new year]  get cleaned, just in case im asked to restart doing them by whoever has now got the tesco contracts ,the santanders  fit in with them.

So you ask us what we think. Then you say you're hanging on (and doing the extra work) for £7?
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: Ian101 on March 06, 2014, 11:17:14 pm
since starting the thread iv had 3 further emails from ARL , tellin me the contracts soon up and theyre worried us cleaners might not be up to scratch so we all must pull our finger out.   apparently Santander big bosses are doin spot checks on the window cleaning standards across the country . 
  its ridiculous ,a 7 pound job

sleepless nights then  ::)roll
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: robertphil on March 07, 2014, 03:02:49 am
im ringing up  shouting dave  at ARL  this weekend  to tell him its over and i quit  . i spose hes well used to this
Title: Re: santander , cleaning of
Post by: PoleKing on March 07, 2014, 07:50:04 am
im ringing up  shouting dave  at ARL  this weekend  to tell him its over and i quit  . i spose hes well used to this

Don't do it bobby.
You'll just get yourself worked up.
Just stop going.
Stop invoicing.
And block his number in your phone.
You'll find it much more satisfying. Won't get worked up.