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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mufcglen on February 20, 2014, 09:43:22 am

Title: van wfp set up question
Post by: mufcglen on February 20, 2014, 09:43:22 am
im getting my bits later to start my van system and will be just running one di then two when that one starts to rise but do you guys put the di's after the pump or before and does it make any difference?
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: johnny bravo on February 20, 2014, 09:52:02 am
it will be cheaper making your pure at home , then transferring to your van.
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Simon Mess on February 20, 2014, 09:59:54 am
But if you cant, put the di after the pump :)
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: mufcglen on February 20, 2014, 10:05:11 am
di after the pump, got it!
is there any reason or benefits being after than before?
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Simon Mess on February 20, 2014, 10:34:39 am
I'm sure someone with better understanding of these things than me can explain why......!. No, seriously, i think it is to do with having a MUCH greater chance of airlock problems.

All i know is that when i got my 1st system, it was set up pump then di, but for reasons i cant quite remember, i decided to change it round, so it went di then pump. Never worked properly like that!.

To minimize the risk of airlocks, have as short a hose as possible between tank and pump, with as straight a path as possible, and as few connectors as possible.
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: dannymack on February 20, 2014, 10:38:57 am
I'm sure if you put Di after the pump the resin will last much longer as its going through quicker !!! 👍
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: mufcglen on February 20, 2014, 10:40:58 am
your probably right pal when you think about all the connectors in and out of di etc when you can have a feed straight from tank to pump!
cant wait to get it all plumbed in now,did a first clean big old cottage yesterday with my trolley and think i filled my 25 litre tank about 4-5 times!
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Mike #1 on February 20, 2014, 02:51:08 pm
it will be cheaper making your pure at home , then transferring to your van.

Dont think so , Putting di on van ensures the water passing through DI is doing so a much lower flow rate ensuring resin lasts longer.

And when out if you start to run low on water you can always top up tank at a good custys house .

And no static tank or transfer pump to buy thus saving £2-300 straight away . Mike

Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Simon Mess on February 20, 2014, 03:32:30 pm
it will be cheaper making your pure at home , then transferring to your van.

Dont think so , Putting di on van ensures the water passing through DI is doing so a much lower flow rate ensuring resin lasts longer.

And when out if you start to run low on water you can always top up tank at a good custys house .

And no static tank or transfer pump to buy thus saving £2-300 straight away . Mike



I think what johnny bravo meant was that it is cheaper to make pure water at home using r/o in a static system than using di only in the van, which, unless you have exceptionally low ppm would definitely be the case.   

But you don't need a static system, if you have a driveway, you can use a small r/o and fill the van in the evening, which i do. A static system would definitely be more convenient though, and you get ibc tanks cheap enough.
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 20, 2014, 04:02:19 pm
I think his PPM is very low like 60's if i remember rightly :)
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Smudger on February 20, 2014, 08:41:23 pm
Di bottles go after pumps it's easier for the pump to push the water through than constantly trying to suck it through the resin which has some resistance and be a potential airlock point

Darran
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: mufcglen on February 21, 2014, 07:58:49 am
Hi guys I'm not going ro route as my ppm is 70 round here and to be honest I won't be going through a lot of water everyday as I'm still building my round up so resin should last a while and hopefully longer if I do the two di vessel trick, the other thing is where I live it's not great for parking so would struggle to have a few hours to fill tank whereas I can just fill it in no time from a tap and away I go with di in the van, going to fit an inline tds so I can keep an eye on water as I work too!
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: clarkson on February 21, 2014, 08:10:57 am
Di bottles go after pumps it's easier for the pump to push the water through than constantly trying to suck it through the resin which has some resistance and be a potential airlock point

Darran

Hi
I think this is correct all pumps pump much better
Than they draw water, I think the little sure flow/ flow jet
Pumps would have tough time drawing water
Through the di at all.

Regards

John
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: johnny bravo on February 23, 2014, 11:08:46 am
i meant , get an ibc tank     around £30+,     300 ro system,    leave running all night or all day.  holds 1000litres. a good reserve.    while out working your ibc tank will be filling up.   ready for your next day.     just using your ro+di vessel to filter it into ibc tank.

at the moment i am filling a 220 litre water butt up,  transfed to my water drums,   store and keep filling water butt up,      untill i get my ibc tank to store more water  into it.

im sure you know what i mean ::)roll :D
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 23, 2014, 11:24:26 am
Sod that, if you are building a round. I would seriously look at catching rain water instead.
Title: Re: van wfp set up question
Post by: mufcglen on February 23, 2014, 11:55:33 am
hi guys i had a 600 ltr ibc tank and planned to go down the ro route but didnt want all the hassle of having to pump it though the house into the van or having to have a big tank laying about so will see how my di bottles last especially using the two di bottle trick and see how it goes!