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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 05:29:36 pm

Title: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 05:29:36 pm
What is a good, high HP engine for a pressure washer? I would be looking at around 20 - 24HP, preferably water cooled but would look at air cooled ones too. I want to put another van together, and want a high flow (30lpm) pump, twin operator with twin boilers (I know Lee, I should just buy a Falch  ;D)

I have a Zeta 30lpm twin operator at the moment in a trailer, it works great, but it really thirsty on the petrol, and dont really want to set it up with twin boilers, then have to take the boilers off at a later date when i buy a diesel. Would rather get rid of the trailer and set it up properly once and for all with the boilers and the diesel engine.

So, what are decent diesel 3 or 4 cyl engines that are cheap(ish)? and suitable for what i need?
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: chris scott on February 19, 2014, 06:13:15 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/diesel-pressure-washer-trailer-200bar-21lpm-/151233288064?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item233634d780

Throw the pump( but not the conversion plate) on ebay and fit a bigger pump.... http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/interpump-275-bar-30-lpm-pressure-washer-pump-t2830-p-6232.html?page=24
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: BDCS on February 19, 2014, 06:45:01 pm
Do that and I'll have the pump and trailer. I like my Lombardini
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 07:12:19 pm
I love my lombardini that i have in the van, LDW1204, 21lpm.. but i want something for the second van, very similar but for use with gum removal etc, hence the twin op twin boiler set up. If only the Zeta was diesel.. :-\
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on February 19, 2014, 07:19:57 pm
I run on petrol it aint that expensive to run, how much cheaper is it to run diesel?
How much do you save on a 5 hour shift?
Simon
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 07:23:46 pm
I run through about 20L of red diesel on an 8 hour shift, machine on and hotbox on (they run from the same fuel tank) which costs me about £15. Thats running non stop, hot water. I can run it all day without the hotbox, on about half that.

What petrol machine do you use mate? what HP? and how much ££wise do you spend running it flat out, all day?
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Blast Away on February 19, 2014, 07:34:29 pm
50-60 litres of red on a T3H per full shift.

Today we have a new member of the Falch Crew!  ;D
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 07:52:43 pm
50-60 litres of red on a T3H per full shift.

Today we have a new member of the Falch Crew!  ;D

Whos that Lee? Darran?
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Blast Away on February 19, 2014, 08:02:40 pm
50-60 litres of red on a T3H per full shift.

Today we have a new member of the Falch Crew!  ;D

Whos that Lee? Darran?

Yes mate.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Roger Oakley on February 19, 2014, 08:09:48 pm
H&M skid mounted set-up, like Rob bought from me.
Will fit straight into the back of a transit.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 19, 2014, 08:17:54 pm
H&M skid mounted set-up, like Rob bought from me.
Will fit straight into the back of a transit.

Not wanting to spend that much to be honest mate. Just trying to work out exactly what i need. The machine ive got in my van at the moment is a good all rounder. Really need the second machine to be the same, with scope to use it for gum/twin op jobs when needed.

Lee,

That seems like a lot of diesel mate.. those twin hotboxes must drink the cherry  ;D
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Blast Away on February 19, 2014, 08:31:39 pm
100c mate, split to to lances, great on gum. Doing Piccadilly train station at the moment. Start at 10 again tonight.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Blast Away on February 19, 2014, 08:34:49 pm
And that's nowt mate, using a Putzmeister 500 Bar on the streets. That uses nearly 100 litres a night, 5 nights a week. We have 1000 litres delivered every fortnight just for that machine.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Roger Oakley on February 19, 2014, 08:49:07 pm
Matt
Then Lombardini, 23hp engine with 30-40lts per min pump, plus hot boxes, should be ideal for twin operators, or one kick-ass machine for single operator. As long as you have the water supply.
Again speak to Rob, he did do some changes to the H&M.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Kenny83 on February 27, 2014, 10:36:02 pm
I have bought a lombardini 1204 like yours matt just before xmass. It's 29.5 HP and is a beast. It's on a Nixon jetter with a hawk pump that does 3000psi at 37lp or 4000psi @ 30lpm. Has an electric hose reel and when it's finished being set up will work via remota control! can't wait to get it in the new van!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: BDCS on February 27, 2014, 10:48:46 pm
I have a 48 hp Yanmar on the van - 4000psi 54 ltrs/min - wired remote and the pump has "made in England" cast into the casing. A new one is circa £22k with all the toys

http://www.flowplant.com/drain-sewer/products/van-packs/drain-master-van-pack/
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 28, 2014, 08:23:29 am
I have bought a lombardini 1204 like yours matt just before xmass. It's 29.5 HP and is a beast. It's on a Nixon jetter with a hawk pump that does 3000psi at 37lp or 4000psi @ 30lpm. Has an electric hose reel and when it's finished being set up will work via remota control! can't wait to get it in the new van!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Hello mate, haven't seen you in a while, hows things?

Yeah the 1204's are beasts, I've had to replace a few things over time, but its a good runner. I was thinking about up rating the pump on mine, and running twin ops, but i have nowhere to put a second hotbox (its skid/van mounted) so i was going to twin hot box the Zeta, but i dont want to run a petrol engine all day.

Where did you get the 1204 from? ebay? I've been looking but not much coming up lately. If any similar engines pop up give me a shout as i want to replace the zeta with diesel. I should get decent money for the Zeta trailer.
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: BDCS on February 28, 2014, 08:26:52 am
One on e bay now

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOMBARDINI-LDW-1204-T-TURBO-1200CC-4-CYLINDER-DIESEL-ENGINE-/231165598581?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item35d28b1b75
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 28, 2014, 08:35:15 am
Yeah it's been on a while. That's the first turbo one I've ever seen to be honest. Not sure id need the turbo  ;D

Also, I'm looking for one that's already set up with a flywheel etc because for that one id have to get a flywheel made with all the pulleys etc..
Title: Re: Engines
Post by: BDCS on February 28, 2014, 08:44:06 am
Blastaway has found somewhere up North that does that sort of thing. Why pulley ?
Gearbox it with a flywheel spigot.

http://www.wrightwayservices.co.uk/