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Title: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 21, 2006, 09:47:03 pm
In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence. (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-13514724,00.html)
How will you increase your charges?
Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: PHILC on March 21, 2006, 09:50:21 pm
already pay my staff above the increase so wont affect me
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: *Chris Browne on March 21, 2006, 09:54:05 pm
Same here got no one on less than £6.00

chris
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 21, 2006, 09:57:17 pm
Will you increase your charges?
Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: BSF on March 21, 2006, 10:17:16 pm
If you take on a contract new or existing (tupe) write in to the t & c's that if the national minimum wage exceeds your employees hourly rate the customer will pay the difference, on contracts of 50hrs plus weekly its very wise as the profit margin on these jobs is far lower than on smaller jobs. ;D ;D

Regards

Paul
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 21, 2006, 10:22:59 pm
I had to address this post specifically to domestic sector… ::), but NM
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: lisa123 on March 21, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
I normally charge so i can pay up to £5.50 per hour at a push. I might have to increase by 50p or so when it comes to October.
She how many customers and staff i have by then.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: BSF on March 21, 2006, 10:40:20 pm
In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence. (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-13514724,00.html)
How will you increase your charges?
Regards,
Arthur


I had to address this post specifically to domestic sector… ::), but NM


Arthur,,,,    ??? Domestic cleaning?

am I missing something.. well ok then..

I'd send the customers letters informing them of a price increase due to the national minimum wage increasing and while I was at it I'd explain that my insurance costs had risen etc etc... ::)

regards

Paul
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 21, 2006, 10:49:49 pm
Paul, I am in domestice sector... 8)
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: BSF on March 21, 2006, 10:55:20 pm
Paul, I am in domestice sector... 8)

Hi Arthur,

As you must know it says on your website, commercial, office cleaning as well as domestic cleaning.

Still this post:

If you take on a contract new or existing (tupe) write in to the t & c's that if the national minimum wage exceeds your employees hourly rate the customer will pay the difference, on contracts of 50hrs plus weekly its very wise as the profit margin on these jobs is far lower than on smaller jobs. ;D ;D

Regards

Paul

May help others ;D

never mind ;D

regards

Paul
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: BSF on March 21, 2006, 11:02:29 pm
In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence. (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-13514724,00.html)
How will you increase your charges?
Regards,
Arthur


I had to address this post specifically to domestic sector… ::), but NM


Arthur,,,,    ??? Domestic cleaning?

am I missing something.. well ok then..

I'd send the customers letters informing them of a price increase due to the national minimum wage increasing and while I was at it I'd explain that my insurance costs had risen etc etc... ::)

regards

Paul

Paul, I am in domestice sector... 8)

As I said Arthur send your domestic customers letters..

Regards

Paul
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 21, 2006, 11:30:59 pm
...May help others ;D

never mind ;D

regards

Paul

Sure Paul that is what the forum is about  ;)

...As I said Arthur send your domestic customers letters..

Regards

Paul

I pay my staff £5.05 so price increase is on the horizon and we will cross £60000 line very soon, so will have to charge VAT as well.  I am a small company, you know… 8)

Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: garyj on March 22, 2006, 12:50:41 am
Arthur, you ask so many questions and post so many polls we'll have to start  calling you Arthur Askey.    ;D ;D
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: Ian Gourlay on March 22, 2006, 01:13:17 am
Arthur,


When you set your company up did you look into the system where the customer employs the staff.


And pays you a management fee,


If you did why did you decide not to use that model of operation.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 08:05:09 am
Ian,

I have looked at this of cause, but decided not to take that route, for one reason: I do not want to get in to dispute with Inland Revenue.  I provide 100% workload for my staff, so they would not be able to claim self-employment status. 

I am not sure if companies who do business in the way you have mentioned act in a legal way.  From my point of view they are acting as an ordinary agency.  I think it is a matter of time before they stop cheating Gordon Brown.

Regards,
Arthur

PS should I report them?  ;D
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 08:07:53 am
Arthur, you ask so many questions and post so many polls we'll have to start  calling you Arthur Askey.    ;D ;D
What ever, I do not mind  :)
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: Liahona on March 22, 2006, 08:36:08 am
May I ask what minimum wage is? Best, Dave. Oh and just a thought, who on earth works for £5:05 an hour????
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 09:01:08 am
Arthur, you ask so many questions and post so many polls we'll have to start  calling you Arthur Askey.    ;D ;D
What ever, I do not mind  :)

How should we call you, would "GaryJ-mummy returns" be any good   ;)
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: handyali on March 22, 2006, 12:41:53 pm
hi everyone.
we pay our cleaners above the minimum wage and key holders more again. I feel it is hopefully a good way of keeping trustworthy, reliable staff.  ;D
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: garyj on March 22, 2006, 02:24:22 pm

How should we call you, would "GaryJ-mummy returns" be any good   ;)

You can if you want, but I don't get it, and considering she died 10years ago it would also be in poor taste.
You'll have to explain it to me.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: MrsMeredith on March 22, 2006, 02:39:22 pm
Posted by: Liahona  Posted on: Today at 08:36:08am 
Insert Quote 
May I ask what minimum wage is? Best, Dave. Oh and just a thought, who on earth works for £5:05 an hour?


Unfortunately Liahona i have to work for  £5.05 an hour every weeked (sat/sun) until my new small domestic cleaning business has took off a little more. I have to really slogg my guts out at a hotel to earn that but every little helps!

Tracey.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 02:40:12 pm
Arthur, you ask so many questions and post so many polls we'll have to start  calling you Arthur Askey.    ;D ;D
What ever, I do not mind  :)

How should we call you, would "GaryJ-mummy returns" be any good   ;)


You can if you want, but I don't get it, and considering she died 10years ago it would also be in poor taste.
You'll have to explain it to me.

Gary, this is going to be out of the subject, but what would you like me to explain to you?

_____________________________________________

Added later:

Gary, you have a habit to change your appearance here, this is your current avatar:

 (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/GaryJ.png)
That is why I suggested "GaryJ-mummy returns" as your new nick name, no offence Gary, I know you look better then that. 
::)

I think I saw you at carpex, but was not sure it was you - a man wearing dark blue jacket, was it you?

Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: Fox on March 22, 2006, 03:02:36 pm
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I think I saw you at carpex, but was not sure it was you - a man wearing dark blue jacket, was it you?


Man?  Don't you know Garyj is a girl and that avatar is a real pic of he/she! 

Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 03:14:02 pm
Fox, Gary is a male, at least I hope so  ;D
Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: andrew chrysler on March 22, 2006, 03:36:20 pm
Don't forget, as an employer you have to pay the extra 30p PLUS the employers NI on that 30p PLUS the extra money for holidays.......

up to 10% increase on all quotes. Price increases now so that jobs quoted ahead of October pay the right sum. Then again, it's what price the job will stand.........

My standard contract provides for variation in charges as a result of legislation........ so extra NMW costs cause a variation, as did the increased employers' NI percentage the last year or so, as would a change in VAT, and as will increased road tax/duty on company fleet.

A standard letter goes to contract customers...... and in general there is no objections.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: Fox on March 22, 2006, 03:47:11 pm
Arthur

Now I know you are having a good laugh but don't try to pull the wool over my eyes Garyj is defo a girl.  

As for your poll I didn't vote, I pay above minimum wage and will still increase our prices as well as give a wage rise but not on the basis of any of the figures you have metioned, however I only deal with commercial so would perhaps do things differently to the domestic sector.  I did post a letter previously that could be used for a price increase, it may help some of you but you would have to do a search for it.

Fox
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 03:59:18 pm
...up to 10% increase on all quotes. Price increases now so that jobs quoted ahead of October pay the right sum. Then again, it's what price the job will stand...
Andrew,
I used to charge 8-50 an hour until few months ago, when I increased charges to 9-00 per hour and as a result number of inquiries dropped by about 50%.  With minimum wage increase and us becoming VAT payers the future does not look very bright…unless yellow pages, which going out this summer, put us back on track…

Fox,
Domestic is a little bit different to commercial in particular when you have to add on the top of your charges the VAT...  I remember your letter, thank you.

Regards,

Arthur

Arthur

Now I know you are having a good laugh but don't try to pull the wool over my eyes Garyj is defo a girl...

Fox

P.S. If Gary is a girl then I guess I know why she did not approach me at the show… She must be a very shy, nice looking girl…  8)
No I still think she is a male… ;D oops not she but he is a male  ;D

PPS. I bet Gary will respond this evening after few pints of beer… ::) Bud is his/hers favourite…  ;D
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: garyj on March 22, 2006, 04:28:48 pm
I don't drink, it upsets my hormones and my husband doesn't like it.
AJ, why did you think I was a man!!!! What an insult.
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: AJCleaningServices on March 22, 2006, 04:44:11 pm
Gary, did not want to insult you, just kidding, still believe you are a male...  ;)
Regards,
Arthur
Title: Re: In October 2006 minimum wage goes up by ~6% which is 30 pence.
Post by: Liahona on March 22, 2006, 05:56:58 pm
Arthur, I have been Vat registered from day one before I even cleaned a carpet..... never found it a problem having to charge the Vat...... If you are doing commercial work which I think you are then your customers will be registered too so wont give it any thought having to pay it. With all our expenses of fuel, chemicals, machines etcetera why would you not register for Vat. Best, Dave.