Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JetVac Cleaning on February 09, 2014, 10:54:53 pm
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I do a fair bit of drive cleans and sealing but am knocking the sealers on the head this year. Does anybody know a decent weed killer which could be applied a week before a clean and where you can buy it from preferably in bulk?
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Glyphosate
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http://www.landscapes-direct.com/product_info.php?products_id=2907
Thats what I use.
Simon
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http://www.landscapes-direct.com/product_info.php?products_id=2907
Thats what I use.
Simon
How long do you have to leave it before pressure washing?
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I usually spray weeds and wait a couple of weeks then pressure wash when there all dead.
I only do this on really weedy drives.
Simon
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24 hours
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If you only wait 24 hours it aint worth wasting your time going to spray it as it aint going to do anything. Round up pro takes about 2 weeks to kill weeds.
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If you only wait 24 hours it aint worth wasting your time going to spray it as it aint going to do anything. Round up pro takes about 2 weeks to kill weeds.
Roundup (and most) weed killers contain the active ingredient glyphosate which is systemic in action. This means that it is absorbed through the leaves of the weed and then it travels within the weed to all parts including the roots.
Once it has fully circulated within the weed, it then causes death....by preventing the plant making it's food.
Glysophate is bio-degradable it will break down instantly on contact of anything other than leaf matter. It is absorbed into the plant within about 4-6 hours....Hence no rainfall should occur for that period. The damage is then done regardless of outward signs.
Simon
I would advise you to do research on the chemicals you are using around peoples property's, family's and pets..
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If you only wait 24 hours it aint worth wasting your time going to spray it as it aint going to do anything. Round up pro takes about 2 weeks to kill weeds.
Simon
I would advise you to do research on the chemicals you are using around peoples property's, family's and pets..
meow ;D
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If you only wait 24 hours it aint worth wasting your time going to spray it as it aint going to do anything. Round up pro takes about 2 weeks to kill weeds.
Simon
I would advise you to do research on the chemicals you are using around peoples property's, family's and pets..
meow ;D
;D
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I love the way you post then go back and edit it when you realize you talk s...
My mate said it was ok to use he must be right he has a shed. ;)
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I love the way you post then go back and edit it when you realize you talk s...
My mate said it was ok to use he must be right he has a shed. ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Do you not need PA1 & PA6 to be spraying weed killers commercially ?
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Yep
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Yep
Thought so ;)
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Im waiting for chris to run a course!
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Im waiting for chris to run a course!
You will be waiting a while.
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Rosate 36 ,spray about 2 weeks prior , so the leaves absorb down into the stems then into the roots. So i've heard !!!
because you do need a licence to spray. Ed .
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I usually spray weeds and wait a couple of weeks then pressure wash when there all dead.
I only do this on really weedy drives.
Simon
Don't you not treat less weedy drives then mate? Or just tell home owner to do it?
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I did my Pa1 and Pa6 last year and found it very helpful. Any signs of weeds when doing the site survey/quotation I would factor in a weedkilling treatment. Only do this in dry conditions and calm days, no high winds to prevent drift! Stuff I use i buy locally from a lawn specialist and is round up amenity. It does state that its safe for animals and kids when dry. Once sprayed on it does not actually take long to dry.
I leave it for two weeks before going back to do the pressure washing and have found great results when returning. Some drives that had heavy weeds looked 100% better before the actual cleaning.
I also inform the customer that they may return in places but the Weedkiller only works on actively growing weeds as Chris as explained. Offer to come back to treat the area again a year later if required for a small additional cost £40/50 if required.
I have returned to a couple of drives that had heavy weed growth months after and majority are weed free and still looking good, odd one has signs of growth again but if the customer just treated them at that point it would eliminate them, some people just let them grow and it's then it's beyond privately treating!!
Hope that helps and sorry for the rushed reply!
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I usually spray weeds and wait a couple of weeks then pressure wash when there all dead.
I only do this on really weedy drives.
Simon
Don't you not treat less weedy drives then mate? Or just tell home owner to do it?
If it aint that bad just turbo them out!
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I did my Pa1 and Pa6 last year and found it very helpful. Any signs of weeds when doing the site survey/quotation I would factor in a weedkilling treatment. Only do this in dry conditions and calm days, no high winds to prevent drift! Stuff I use i buy locally from a lawn specialist and is round up amenity. It does state that its safe for animals and kids when dry. Once sprayed on it does not actually take long to dry.
I leave it for two weeks before going back to do the pressure washing and have found great results when returning. Some drives that had heavy weeds looked 100% better before the actual cleaning.
I also inform the customer that they may return in places but the Weedkiller only works on actively growing weeds as Chris as explained. Offer to come back to treat the area again a year later if required for a small additional cost £40/50 if required.
I have returned to a couple of drives that had heavy weed growth months after and majority are weed free and still looking good, odd one has signs of growth again but if the customer just treated them at that point it would eliminate them, some people just let them grow and it's then it's beyond privately treating!!
Hope that helps and sorry for the rushed reply!
How much did it cost you? Prices I saw were ridiculous for a "competency certificate" I consider my self to be competent. I think the regulations regarding this are a joke.
Look forward to your replies (chris)!
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"If it aint that bad just turbo them out! "
All good gardeners prune and water their plants
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I did my Pa1 and Pa6 last year and found it very helpful. Any signs of weeds when doing the site survey/quotation I would factor in a weedkilling treatment. Only do this in dry conditions and calm days, no high winds to prevent drift! Stuff I use i buy locally from a lawn specialist and is round up amenity. It does state that its safe for animals and kids when dry. Once sprayed on it does not actually take long to dry.
I leave it for two weeks before going back to do the pressure washing and have found great results when returning. Some drives that had heavy weeds looked 100% better before the actual cleaning.
I also inform the customer that they may return in places but the Weedkiller only works on actively growing weeds as Chris as explained. Offer to come back to treat the area again a year later if required for a small additional cost £40/50 if required.
I have returned to a couple of drives that had heavy weed growth months after and majority are weed free and still looking good, odd one has signs of growth again but if the customer just treated them at that point it would eliminate them, some people just let them grow and it's then it's beyond privately treating!!
Hope that helps and sorry for the rushed reply!
How much did it cost you? Prices I saw were ridiculous for a "competency certificate" I consider my self to be competent. I think the regulations regarding this are a joke.
Look forward to your replies (chris)!
You can get trained for less than £300, for 2 days training its cheap, it then lasts forever unlike IPAF etc . Training covers everything chems, equip, product labels, storage blah blah, if you apply 'weed killers' on a commercial basis its law.
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Agree with Great Out Doors above comment! It was less than £400 for the two days with the exams. Covers me to do this legally and advertise the service. I actually found the course well run and informative. There is more to it than meets the eye! :D
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Mine was £410 plus about £50 in fuel.
Its a con!! So I can spray the same chem on my own drive but not someone elses.. Because there's a difference apparently ???
Its common sense and the packaging tells you just as much. Don't spray in high wind, don't pour down drains, don't spray into ponds or waterways etc.. I mean come on.!!
And its not even a qualification, its a competency certificate.. Its a congratulations, you passed the idiot test, thanks for your money..
The legislation on it is mind bogglingly stupid..
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So I can spray the same chem on my own drive but not someone elses.. Because there's a difference apparently ???
The legislation on it is mind bogglingly stupid..
OK you paid £450 so whats that one driveway job .. training paid for !
There is a massive difference, you can now spray chems / pesticides which the general public should not have access to (not just glyphosate ) If I paid a contractor to carry out work I would expect him to have the required training. Out of interest , How long was your training ? ours was two days plus an individual test at a later date so it should cover a little bit more than what you say :)
Any home owner can walk into hss and hire a scissor lift no question, yet to work commercially you are required to take IPAF.
You have done the training now use it, add it to your website, quotations tell the customer! Then when you quote against competition who haven't the home owner will know ! As a homeowner who would you choose some numpty who says I dont need training or the company who has put themselves out to get trained ::)roll
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One big driveway job or 2 smaller jobs but yeah I know what your saying and you are bang on about as a homeowner trained to do it properly, I personally would have the same opinion on a contractor. Although I find residential homeowners don't have a clue., I did it more to cover my own rear end.
I only use glyphosate and I just think it's ridiculous you need a cert for it.
Mine was 2 days plus tests.
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One big driveway job or 2 smaller jobs but yeah I know what your saying and you are bang on about as a homeowner trained to do it properly, I personally would have the same opinion on a contractor. Although I find residential homeowners don't have a clue., I did it more to cover my own rear end.
I only use glyphosate and I just think it's ridiculous you need a cert for it.
Mine was 2 days plus tests.
Add details to your website mate, highlight it on quotes, point it out to the home owner. I view it simillar to the waste carrier licence (which is a rip off ;D) but try to use the fact that we have it, to my advantage ;)
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I usually spray weeds and wait a couple of weeks then pressure wash when there all dead.
I only do this on really weedy drives.
Simon
Do you get a % of job to do this up front in your favour.
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One big driveway job or 2 smaller jobs but yeah I know what your saying and you are bang on about as a homeowner trained to do it properly, I personally would have the same opinion on a contractor. Although I find residential homeowners don't have a clue., I did it more to cover my own rear end.
I only use glyphosate and I just think it's ridiculous you need a cert for it.
Mine was 2 days plus tests.
Add details to your website mate, highlight it on quotes, point it out to the home owner. I view it simillar to the waste carrier licence (which is a rip off ;D) but try to use the fact that we have it, to my advantage ;)
Very true mate. I like your optimism. For every negative there's a positive!!
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Just looked back over my records, the cert cost me over £500 plus fuel. Did I get ripped off? No wonder the people spray illegally.
Im even more annoyed now lol. >:(