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Title: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 06, 2014, 07:38:40 pm
WE had the Reach-iT shock a few months back now we hear the Gardiner shock story....... be careful out there....

http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/we-had-the-reach-it-shock-now-listen-to-the-gardiner-shock%E2%80%A6/
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 06, 2014, 07:46:01 pm
Good read, and i bet even it that damaged state its still better than a reach-it.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: ben M on February 06, 2014, 07:48:21 pm
i love Alex's answers:  ;D

WCM: Did you replace Adam’s pole?

Alex: No! If you crash your new car, VW do not replace it for you.



WCM: What would you recommend people do in light of this incident?

Alex: Look where they are moving their window cleaning pole
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Simon Mess on February 06, 2014, 08:01:59 pm
Love the grammar used by the wcm interviewer!

"Was you injured?"

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Geoff on February 06, 2014, 08:12:05 pm
Quality journalism there.

And now, back to our weatherman in the studio.

"So, where's this rain from?  Should we of been worried about it?  What can our viewers do to avoid this rain stuff?"

Weatherman: "Use an umbrella, dude, they are usually have some use".

Thanks mate, and that's all from us here in Chepstow for toonight.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: ascjim on February 06, 2014, 08:39:23 pm
and the point of that interview was? Great stuff from
Alex lol
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on February 06, 2014, 08:41:03 pm
Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: bobplum on February 06, 2014, 08:50:17 pm
space filling
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: wfp master on February 06, 2014, 09:15:18 pm
space cadets
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: andyM on February 06, 2014, 09:19:01 pm
This is a real hazard that some of us window cleaners have to be aware of.
Particularly when doing guttering/fascia cleans on some properties.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Smurf on February 06, 2014, 09:32:52 pm
Not some but all may I add need to be aware as is basic 101 risk assessment stuff

This is a real hazard that some of us window cleaners have to be aware of.
Particularly when doing guttering/fascia cleans on some properties.

Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Pete Thompson on February 07, 2014, 12:48:20 am
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Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

I'm baffled as to the point of anything lee burbidge says and does.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: oldman on February 07, 2014, 03:28:32 am
Total garbage journalism.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Soupy on February 07, 2014, 06:49:10 am
Ha, did you actually vocalise LOL at the end there?
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Avo on February 07, 2014, 08:32:14 am
It's only section 1 damaged by the look of it..
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: windiewasher on February 07, 2014, 08:39:11 am
It's only section 1 damaged by the look of it..
he was lucky. That pole doesn't look too bad.
the reach-poop one was battered.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: JackieW on February 07, 2014, 09:05:14 am
''The smell of burning was very strong and I was worried it may have affected the electric supply. Upon collecting the money from the customer, I saw that their TV was working and so I left.''

Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 07, 2014, 09:41:12 am
Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

To raise awareness perhaps, so nobody else ruins a perfectly good SL-X. Plus, it makes for a good read, especially Alex's response.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 03:58:14 pm
This is a real hazard that some of us window cleaners have to be aware of.
Particularly when doing guttering/fascia cleans on some properties.


Andy is right... too many window cleaners are becoming complacent with power cables and this needs to be high lighted. Erwins shock happened only days after being 'cocky' on Facebook at somebody else that hit power lines. He said, ' how the hell did he miss seeing that hazard', weeks later BANG!
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 03:58:53 pm
Love the grammar used by the wcm interviewer!

"Was you injured?"

 ;D

I did rush it to get it out.... you can blame me for that :)
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 03:59:58 pm
Quality journalism there.

And now, back to our weatherman in the studio.

"So, where's this rain from?  Should we of been worried about it?  What can our viewers do to avoid this rain stuff?"

Weatherman: "Use an umbrella, dude, they are usually have some use".

Thanks mate, and that's all from us here in Chepstow for toonight.

Its real funny to me when you miss the point.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 04:01:21 pm
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Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

I'm baffled as to the point of anything lee burbidge says and does.

I dont know you Pete and never spoke to you. Feel free to ask me something that you are unsure about :)
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 04:02:42 pm
Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

To raise awareness perhaps, so nobody else ruins a perfectly good SL-X. Plus, it makes for a good read, especially Alex's response.

 ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 04:19:24 pm
Not some but all may I add need to be aware as is basic 101 risk assessment stuff

This is a real hazard that some of us window cleaners have to be aware of.
Particularly when doing guttering/fascia cleans on some properties.


 :) what crops up a lot I have noticed in covering such stories, is no risk assessment carried out visually or written or considered. Window Cleaners are aware of most overhead cables but still do not give the wide berth they need by approaching a job differently. I do slightly disagree with one comment Alex makes, mind regarding window cleaners and awareness....

WCM: Do you think there is enough awareness on this hazard?

Alex: I think so, most clients are aware of this fact about overhead wires as they had to be when using aluminium ladders previously in the industry. Also every pole we sell has a warning printed on it.

For me a sticker on a pole is not enough awareness and in most cases an extended telescopic pole is more likely to hit overhead power lines than an extended ladder since most ladders are rested below or around the sill area which is much lower than where you need to start cleaning a window with a wfp. If the building was 3 story near to overhead lines then I would agree with Alex's statement more so IMO.

Hence the point of the blog entry no matter how unfulfilling it may appear to one or two :)


Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Dave Willis on February 07, 2014, 05:47:03 pm
i brought up the danger of powerlines about six years ago and was laughed off the forum (nothings changed  ;D)

Basically it's up to each individual to do a visual risk assessment for every residential job. I've touched powerlines accidentally in the past but I've been lucky - they were well insulated. Different powerlines carry different current. Obviously cleaning near an overhead pylon with a carbon pole is probably not a good idea.  I've turned down guttervac jobs too because of power cables.
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 06:38:45 pm
I have a pic of a window cleaner working underneath a pylon... thats if I can up load it to this...
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 07, 2014, 06:40:49 pm
i brought up the danger of powerlines about six years ago and was laughed off the forum (nothings changed  ;D)

Basically it's up to each individual to do a visual risk assessment for every residential job. I've touched powerlines accidentally in the past but I've been lucky - they were well insulated. Different powerlines carry different current. Obviously cleaning near an overhead pylon with a carbon pole is probably not a good  I've turned down guttervac jobs too because of power cables.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Smurf on February 07, 2014, 07:10:50 pm
Lee me old mate his ladder is way too short methinks to be anywhere near those unisulated power lines  ;D
But be warned folks if doing highrise stuff near high voltage unisulated power lines the high voltage current can jump to a wfp pole even just 2 meters away so you would not ever need to touch them.

You will only do it once as you will not walk away from that mistake for sure.

I have a pic of a window cleaner working underneath a pylon... thats if I can up load it to this...
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: TLC on February 07, 2014, 07:23:38 pm
Wow, the wcm interviewer is clearly not the brightest spark around
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Smurf on February 07, 2014, 07:32:45 pm
This is an interesting doc to read if anyone is interested.
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/library/downloads/emf-property-02-2013-01.pdf

Also give pics of different types of power lines and the voltage they carry
Title: Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
Post by: Lee Burbidge on February 08, 2014, 05:29:50 pm
Wow, the wcm interviewer is clearly not the brightest spark around

You are entitled to your opinion. Hardly the conclusive deduction of the century mind.....