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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Hard Floor Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gwrightson on February 06, 2014, 06:25:32 pm

Title: best approach
Post by: gwrightson on February 06, 2014, 06:25:32 pm

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I have ben asked to clean and seal this Karndean floor , a good client who has a number of retail outlets , this particular outlet is a menswear  outlet, very expensive designer cloths etc . The problem as you can see is scratches on the surface , what would be the best approach to remove. Improve these  ?
The next question, what would the best finish to limit this problem in the future ?

Thanks in anticipation.
Geoff

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Kev Martin on February 06, 2014, 07:34:03 pm

We have been told by others that Hone Powder 800 grit does a fantastic job on this type of floor.  If you like I will send you some to try if you pay for the postage.  Call the office on 0121 773 2450 and ask Abi to send you some.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: gwrightson on February 06, 2014, 07:37:42 pm

That's very kind of you Kevin :)

I will do that , much appreciated.

Geoff

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Kev Martin on February 06, 2014, 07:42:08 pm

Geoff

Your welcome ask abi to send you some to do a test area.  I take it you have a slow speed rotary?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: gwrightson on February 06, 2014, 07:50:35 pm

Yes  slow speed , I have 3   what would be best pad ? 

Geoff

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 06, 2014, 09:50:32 pm

Use a blue or green pad with the honing powder. I would go for 400 personally and then apply Dr.Schutz Medica or Secura Hard Sealers to protect afterwards.

Secura is Matt and a little more forgiving.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 06, 2014, 10:00:04 pm

Here is one I did earlier.
Satin finish but still wet hence the shine.
Honed to remove ingrained soiling, vacuum cleaner scores and dog scratches with 220 grit then coated with Polyurethane Sealer

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Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 06, 2014, 10:51:57 pm

Jamie when using honing powder do you pre-wet floor, Also why no protection around is it because no chem is used only powder ? cheers Phil.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 06, 2014, 11:17:56 pm

Not pre-wet as you would with stone. Just applied cleaner with the watering can in the first pic and flat mopped around.
Honing powder then applied on top of that and worked with the pad.
No protection on this one as you rightly observe.
Its not the chem that can be the issue its the abrasive nature of the honing powder.
If I was stripping old coatings on this one it would have had full protection but moisture was being kept to a minimum on this job.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Kev Martin on February 07, 2014, 05:02:29 am

Jamie

Your brave using my Honing Powders without protecting those skirtings and stairs.  You must have done it almost dry to get away with that???

Kev Martin
Tilung Logistics Ltd

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 07, 2014, 08:55:36 am

Yeah really quite low on the moisture.

There is a splash guard on the machine.

Guy had just decorated but was still  to varnish his skirtings after I had completed the floor so it was a calculated risk.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Graeme Smith on February 07, 2014, 12:34:10 pm

Jamie what do you find the best method for applying the sealer - flat microfibre, stringy mop or other one of the issues with shiny topicals seems to be not leaving application marks

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 07, 2014, 01:29:07 pm

For acrylic sealer I use either a microfibre flat mop or a traditional Kentucky mop.

On this particular job it was a roller as the PU self levels

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 07, 2014, 01:30:21 pm

Application marks are caused by under application. Bubbles or fish eyes as they are know are from over application as acryllic sealers tend not to have defoamers. It all really comes down to practise.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: premier floorcare on February 07, 2014, 09:50:42 pm

Is that marmoleum tiles Jamie ?

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on February 07, 2014, 10:05:55 pm

We have found using microfiber face cloths under a flat telescopic mop frame to be the best method for applying sealers or polish to vinyl type floors as you will always achieve a perfect smooth finish without any application marks, many years ago we used to apply them with string cotton mops but always found that these mop heads would leave polish residue behind on the skirting boards, door kicker plates, and on the base of any equipment that the mop head brushed against, using a flat microfiber mop and face cloth stops this problem, if you cant source microfiber face cloths just use a standard terry microfiber cloth.

Title: Re: best approach
Post by: gwrightson on February 08, 2014, 04:54:04 am

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=181638.0

I use these.

geoff