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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Brendan (chem2clean) on February 06, 2014, 03:20:23 pm
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Just wondering what yous or charging per sq metre for fibre protection.Have a quote for 250 sq metres?
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£1.70/m2 using chemspec stainshield pro
This is for a local carpetshop on new fitted carpet.
Did 100m2 ( big lounge & stairs ) two weeks ago, took me 70minutes
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hi Mike,the chemspec stainshield is a concentrate in which you dilute with water is it not.I have never used it,sounds more cost effective than prochems fluoroseal which i normally use.Just wondering how they compare.
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And it's Woolsafe approved.
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Never compared them but I have absolute faith in stain-shield.
I think I worked out before an average living room cost £14 to protect
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£14 seems expensive but what's an average size room ? Protect nano covers 20-40m2 per litre of solution so a lot more economical not used it as i use dry fusion but a lot of people give good feedback on it .
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Chemspec used to be one of the few companies that had point of sale leaflets thats you could purchase and hand to customers. Is this still the case.
David
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£14 seems expensive but what's an average size room ? Protect nano covers 20-40m2 per litre of solution so a lot more economical not used it as i use dry fusion but a lot of people give good feedback on it .
How does protect nano work? Stainshield require 5lt to cover the same area, 5 times as much, why is protect nano type protector only on sale in the uk? I would have thought if it did the same job as conventional protectors but used a fraction of the water it would be on sale in other countries (. But perhaps it is who makes it.?)
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I charge a 10% of the carpets value on new laid stuff for my retailers.
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I charge a 10% of the carpets value on new laid stuff for my retailers.
how do you know the retailer is giving you the correct price
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£14 seems expensive but what's an average size room ? Protect nano covers 20-40m2 per litre of solution so a lot more economical not used it as i use dry fusion but a lot of people give good feedback on it .
How does protect nano work? Stainshield require 5lt to cover the same area, 5 times as much, why is protect nano type protector only on sale in the uk? I would have thought if it did the same job as conventional protectors but used a fraction of the water it would be on sale in other countries (. But perhaps it is who makes it.?)
I don't know how it works never used i'm just going off feedback i have read from proper pro's i'm sure some will be along soon also why not buy some and try it see for yourself then leave your own feedback.
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I charge a 10% of the carpets value on new laid stuff for my retailers.
So for a carpet that was £10 per m2 and they had a room 20m2 you would charge £20 to protect ?
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Hey Phil,think you might have your maths wrong on that one ;D
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£10per m2 X 20m2 = £200 and 10% of £200 is £20 :)
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I charge a 10% of the carpets value on new laid stuff for my retailers.
So for a carpet that was £10 per m2 and they had a room 20m2 you would charge £20 to protect ?
That isnt the market I am operating in.
They dont lie about the prices in this market.
We are very much part of their sales process.
It would more likely be £200/m2 so I charge them £20/m2
Here is one we did last week.
125m2, single piece, hand tufted & sculpted.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1779883_644036702327641_2066657774_n.jpg)
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£10per m2 X 20m2 = £200 and 10% of £200 is £20 :)
Subject to minimum charge.
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£14 seems expensive but what's an average size room ? Protect nano covers 20-40m2 per litre of solution so a lot more economical not used it as i use dry fusion but a lot of people give good feedback on it .
How does protect nano work? Stainshield require 5lt to cover the same area, 5 times as much, why is protect nano type protector only on sale in the uk? I would have thought if it did the same job as conventional protectors but used a fraction of the water it would be on sale in other countries (. But perhaps it is who makes it.?)
I don't know how it works never used i'm just going off feedback i have read from proper pro's i'm sure some will be along soon also why not buy some and try it see for yourself then leave your own feedback.
Phil my question were rhetorical , I would buy some and test it but I would need to buy loads and test it over a significant length of time something that is not feasible.
As for the maths question, a £10/m carpet would not be applicable in this case as it would not be wool at that price.... so protecting it would not be an option
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http://www.carpetright.co.uk/range-sultan%20berber-carpets.html (http://www.carpetright.co.uk/range-sultan%20berber-carpets.html)
Mike has a valid point here. His price of £1.70 is equivalent of my 10% charge.
The above was found searching 100% wool berber and its bang on the money for what we both charge.
Dont under sell yourselves guys!
When I initially did the Stainshield Professional training it was recommended that you charge the same as your cleaning rate.
So a £40 job becomes an £80 job. That second £40 is earnt in 15 minutes where the first £40 would be in 30-45 minutes. lifting your profitability massively.
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lol, yep Phil i stand corrected .
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No probs mate and if you was to use protect nano say £50 for 5ltrs which you mix 50/50 so 10 ltrs of usable solution would get you 200-400m2 so say £1.70p per m2 you would charge £340 so £290 profit but buy 10ltrs lol so you know you defo have enough ;D
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I'm at £1.50 sq/m to retailers on new carpet sprayed in warehouse before fitting. I've been charging that for years so should really increase but its all part of the big picture i.e relationship , recommendations etc.
Mike
P.s was using nano for years, no problems but recently gone back to stainshield pro . More expensive but I guess its a confidence thing on my part. I do tweak the dilution ratio to suit though.
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Unbelievably at £1.50 the owners of one of the retailers keep looking at ways to cut me out and do it themselves to save money. Fortunately the shop floor staff have said no way, they realise over say 15 plus years they havnt had any problems. Also its the bigger picture I'm there to sort out other problems and give advise which gets them out of a hole. If they want to cut me out to save 70-80p a metre when thy're charging out at £4.50 then I might not be there and jump when they need me. Staff can see that , boss's cant.
Mike
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£14 seems expensive but what's an average size room ? Protect nano covers 20-40m2 per litre of solution so a lot more economical not used it as i use dry fusion but a lot of people give good feedback on it .
How does protect nano work? Stainshield require 5lt to cover the same area, 5 times as much, why is protect nano type protector only on sale in the uk? I would have thought if it did the same job as conventional protectors but used a fraction of the water it would be on sale in other countries (. But perhaps it is who makes it.?)
I don't know how it works never used i'm just going off feedback i have read from proper pro's i'm sure some will be along soon also why not buy some and try it see for yourself then leave your own feedback.
Phil my question were rhetorical , I would buy some and test it but I would need to buy loads and test it over a significant length of time something that is not feasible.
As for the maths question, a £10/m carpet would not be applicable in this case as it would not be wool at that price.... so protecting it would not be an option
100% wool Berber on ebay £10.95 per m2 would you not protect that ?