Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: James Bulton on January 20, 2014, 02:28:49 pm
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Yes folks: What is the one thing we could do that would eliminate all the none sense we have to put up with every day ? in our work and with customers. Go on give it your shot. I will reveal the answer later after we all have shot at it.
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Stop window cleaning...
Or just don't let it affect you...
Or spell thinG with a k to make it thinK..? ;D
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Yes folks: What is the one thing we could do that would eliminate all the none sense we have to put up with every day ? in our work and with customers. Go on give it your shot. I will reveal the answer later after we all have shot at it.
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Yes folks: What is the one thing we could do that would eliminate all the none sense we have to put up with every day ? in our work and with customers. Go on give it your shot. I will reveal the answer later after we all have shot at it.
Serious answer: Stop worrying and go with the flow. Not worrying about it stops it being "nonsense" so youve got rid of it.
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I'm going to guess, get more customers than you need so you can drop the messers
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Pay someone else to do it and worry about it.
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Dial a clean
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You need the right frame of mind. Which I now have.
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The problem is you you need to think out of the box its quite simple.
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what problems do you encounter smithie?
apart from the odd late payer i very rarely have problems with customers.most are as good as gold.any customers that give me grief soon get dropped.
regards
dazmond
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I have no problem I cannot cope with Das. I just always think of improving the lot of us window cleaners.Its just me being a consummate professional. I find it difficult to think me when we are all us.I am inclined to make observations by looking in-would at our industry.
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I thought LSD went out of fashion years ago ???
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Yes folks: What is the one thing we could do that would eliminate all the none sense we have to put up with every day ? in our work and with customers. Go on give it your shot. I will reveal the answer later after we all have shot at it.
get a real job
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work hard
always aim to do a good job,frames,sills and doors washed down every time
don t let customers down
be flexible with frequencies and payment methods
charge a fair price for your work
clean van,smart logo d uniform,business cards and leaflets.
do all these things on a consistent basis and you will attract the good customers over time.
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O K will tell you. If we just sang from the same sheet. If we just told our customers the same thing when getting the same questions. I was reading the Lee Burbridge`s thread and the explanation to cleaning window in the rain. If we all used just that as a basic answer to cleaning in the rain we would eliminate that myth. But we are all to busy been individuals and trying to get one over the next that we miss golden opportunities by not wanting to be in unison with anyone. Because we all think we are the smartest thing around. Its done by so many professionals but why not by us. Just chat to a mortgage consultant and you will see the harmony in there industry.Doctors do it, even politicians do it. But windys NO we are to smart for unity.
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??? wot?
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Makes perfect sense, will never happen.
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??? wot?
double wot ??
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we allget it one sort or another its just a get on with it and carry on regardless situation.
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Doctors clean in the rain ???
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O K will tell you. If we just sang from the same sheet. If we just told our customers the same thing when getting the same questions. I was reading the Lee Burbridge`s thread and the explanation to cleaning window in the rain. If we all used just that as a basic answer to cleaning in the rain we would eliminate that myth. But we are all to busy been individuals and trying to get one over the next that we miss golden opportunities by not wanting to be in unison with anyone. Because we all think we are the smartest thing around. Its done by so many professionals but why not by us. Just chat to a mortgage consultant and you will see the harmony in there industry.Doctors do it, even politicians do it. But windys NO we are to smart for unity.
Smithie, sounds like you're having a bad day. Get over it. You've got the best job in the world. Forget about 'talking in unison', it's what YOU say to the customer that counts. Be professional and confident in what you say and do a good job and customers will love you. We are not doctors or politicians (don't put me in same category as mortgage consultants...bas**rds). In a sense we are the 'lowest of the low'; I love being the lowest of the low!!!! Use it to your advantage. Yeah we are just a window cleaners and we charge 16 squid for 20 mins work. Be professional, talk to your customers in a positive way, show them the superb cleaning results of your wfp, book them in for next time and job done. I love 16 squids, and another 16 squid and another 16 squid...... ;D ;D
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i get a feeling that smithie is 3 french fries short of a happy meal!! ;D ;D
have you been in the pub all day mate? ;D ;D
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Hey Daz, sorry to go off topic but should I buy the 25 Extreme with extensions to 35', or buy the 35' and break it down?
Or another opinion. Can't afford both poles like you've got.
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A shrink.....??
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I have no problem I cannot cope with Das. I just always think of improving the lot of us window cleaners.Its just me being a consummate professional.
So it's arrogance.
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I have no problem I cannot cope with Das. I just always think of improving the lot of us window cleaners.Its just me being a consummate professional.
So it's arrogance.
Ahhhhhh so whats needed is a good kickin'
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robbo ive no idea mate.both poles would be good probably, although the 25 with extensions would have the insulating base section i think.
check with alex.he usually replys within 24 hours if you email him. ;)
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robbo ive no idea mate.both poles would be good probably, although the 25 with extensions would have the insulating base section i think.
check with alex.he usually replys within 24 hours if you email him. ;)
Thanks Daz, will do.
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O K will tell you. If we just sang from the same sheet. If we just told our customers the same thing when getting the same questions. I was reading the Lee Burbridge`s thread and the explanation to cleaning window in the rain. If we all used just that as a basic answer to cleaning in the rain we would eliminate that myth. But we are all to busy been individuals and trying to get one over the next that we miss golden opportunities by not wanting to be in unison with anyone. Because we all think we are the smartest thing around. Its done by so many professionals but why not by us. Just chat to a mortgage consultant and you will see the harmony in there industry.Doctors do it, even politicians do it. But windys NO we are to smart for unity.
Thanks for sharing, another game changer from Smithie 8)
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Sales funnel.
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Smithie:
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/
hth
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What the heck is this topic about?
???
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Even the OP ain't sure Ross.
I don't think english is his first language.
And the sherberts may be on.
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Doctors clean in the rain ???
'course they do Dave.
Doctor Foster went to Gloucester
In a shower of rain
He stepped in a puddle
up to his middle
and now he cleans in the rain again.
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Even the OP ain't sure Ross.
I don't think english is his first language.
And the sherberts may be on.
Yup Mr Dirty.
I think as well that the sherbet is doing the typing. Tosh for once may be right with regards to AA.
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I don`t drink. This forum is living proof there is life after death. Don`t worry mates, I give up.We will just have to stay the lowest of the low.Me arrogant,no. Lets fight for the back seat of the dumb bus.
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I don`t drink. This forum is living proof there is life after death. Don`t worry mates, I give up.We will just have to stay the lowest of the low.Me arrogant,no. Lets fight for the back seat of the dumb bus.
The backseat of the dumb bus?
I think the back seat has already been reserved for that chip on your shoulder. ::)roll
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I think you'd get less flak Smithie, if you used punctuation. It's the difference between knowing "you're shyte" and knowing "your shyte". I know you can speak four languages, but maybe it would be a good idea to be able to write in at least one of them, and stick to using that.
Hope that helps.
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I don`t drink. This forum is living proof there is life after death. Don`t worry mates, I give up.We will just have to stay the lowest of the low.Me arrogant,no. Lets fight for the back seat of the dumb bus.
Smithie, it's common for human beings to perceive a problem and then go blaming external stuff (like other window cleaners) for the issue.
But to be honest the vast majority of my customers are good. Why? Because over the years I've been fairly hard-headed and dumped the ones I haven't gotten on with. If I've a bunch of six houses and I don't want to clean any of them because one customer there turns me off, I generally 'lose' the one I'm not keen on.
I think what I'm clumsily trying to say is that I suspect your problem isn't really 'all the other window cleaners', it's probably yourself.
hth
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I know you can speak four languages, but maybe it would be a good idea to be able to write in at least one of them, and stick to using that.
Bull poo and nonsense don't officially - strictly speaking - count as languages, Cozy.
It's what people tell me, anyway. :'(
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probably have no staff, and have no customers. easy then
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probably have no staff, and have no customers. easy then
Is shorthand a language?
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probably have no staff, and have no customers. easy then
Is shorthand a language?
Y!
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probably have no staff, and have no customers. easy then
Is shorthand a language?
Is double-dutch one or two languages?
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I agree with the OP. If we took E, then it would stop all the nonsense.
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Its amazing the thickness of so many cannot see the forest for the trees.Tosh how did you become a mod Oo no one else wanted the job. I should not bother with this place.I do have just one usefulness point to act as a punch bag and a butt for your senseless insults. Well I don`t care.
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Its amazing the thickness of so many cannot see the forest for the trees.Tosh how did you become a mod Oo no one else wanted the job. I should not bother with this place.I do have just one usefulness point to act as a punch bag and a butt for your senseless insults. Well I don`t care.
So you're off.........again ::)roll.
It seems you have a problem with being just a window cleaner. You want to change the public's perception of window cleaning but why? Because you've got some qualification(s)?
We're not going to be seen in the same light as doctors or lawyers (thank God ;D) for the foreseeable future so just deal with it.
We're manual workers, on the whole.
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Haven't read the replies yet but coming to an understanding on sensible pricing between the window cleaning fraternity would be a start, had one customer dump me for an idiot who charges a fiver no matter the size of house ::)roll
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I can see teddy flying out of the pram again Griff. The guy should drop being "just" a window cleaner and open a "Whine Bar", where the customers stand at the bar and whine all the time.
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So you're off.........again ::)roll.
Smithie is just unhappy, mate, that's all; and it explains why he has no other options but to react badly and blame everyone else for the way he feels. For a class example, look how he even blames all other window cleaners for the way he's treated in his business.
He reminds me of my dog, when I throw him a stick, he's no options but to chase it.
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lmao ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
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Good point Ross but this forum isn't renowned for its empathy
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
Agreed, but hes not exactly helping himself...
Patronising and belittling people doesn't exactly draw sympathy...
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
Agreed. Too many idiotic cliques. Of idiots ;D
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
He's not depressed, he's just annoyed that he's seen as the same as you ;D.
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Good point Ross but this forum isn't renowned for its empathy
And you.
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
Agreed. Too many idiotic cliques. Of idiots ;D
But not you. He wants to be like you ♥.
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If Smithie is feeling low, or depressed, or what ever, the put downs aren't going to help things.
;D
Agreed. Too many idiotic cliques. Of idiots ;D
But not you. He wants to be like you ♥.
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I am depressed now a few pages back it was booze and drugs. I am doing fine and my business are doing just fine thanks. So stop trying to make me into someone I am not. If I say anything you bunch think is a joke to be ridiculed. Well I don`t need that so I will stop entertain you. Just read back all the absolute crap that has been written about me. I ask a simple question and now all this crap. Just read back and see the crap.
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Yeah, saw all the "crap" mate. No idea why you post it though. ???
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I am depressed now a few pages back it was booze and drugs. I am doing fine and my business are doing just fine thanks. So stop trying to make me into someone I am not. If I say anything you bunch think is a joke to be ridiculed. Well I don`t need that so I will stop entertain you. Just read back all the absolute crap that has been written about me. I ask a simple question and now all this crap. Just read back and see the crap.
Sorry mate, you didn't ask a simple question. A simple question is 'where's the best place to buy xxxx and what price should I pay' or similar.
Your question made no sense, your replies made no sense, the whole topic makes no sense and in short, if you think that those who have a genuine interest in what you posted, and have tried to post constructively, and you deem the replies 'crap', then to my mind you are a mind game playing arrogant idiot.
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I ask a question all I get is a personal abuse.Like you have just done eg. mind game playing arrogant idiot. Could you be more personal. No one has asked me to clarify my question,its straight to the insults and a discussion about weather I am drunk or on drugs or am I mentally sane, in a mans face which leads to defending my self.Its not easy when you get it from all sides.Taking the mick is not so great when you are on the receiving all the time.Some times this forum is awash with rude bullies.It just takes one to start and you all like a bunch of hyenas with a mass attack in a cowardly manner.When you don`t grasp the question take the mick is the next agenda. Its quite correct as some said on here you are the lowest of the low not my words. Any way I will not respond to anything anymore. I just don`t need this crap.
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Sorry mate you will have to ask someone else as I am not going to bother writing on this forum anymore. Might read but no write.Cheers.
you didn't last long did you ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Its amazing the thickness of so many cannot see the forest for the trees.Tosh how did you become a mod Oo no one else wanted the job.
Because you're full of conpliments mate....
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O K will tell you. If we just sang from the same sheet. If we just told our customers the same thing when getting the same questions. I was reading the Lee Burbridge`s thread and the explanation to cleaning window in the rain. If we all used just that as a basic answer to cleaning in the rain we would eliminate that myth. But we are all to busy been individuals and trying to get one over the next that we miss golden opportunities by not wanting to be in unison with anyone. Because we all think we are the smartest thing around. Its done by so many professionals but why not by us. Just chat to a mortgage consultant and you will see the harmony in there industry.Doctors do it, even politicians do it. But windys NO we are to smart for unity.
The problem is Smithie, that even if you could herd the bunch of cats on here to do as you suggest then you must realise that "we" are just a small minority of all the window cleaners in the UK.
It's like getting a dozen MP's to unite and decide to act in a united moral, upright decent way - you've still got over 600 doing things differently in what they think is a united moral decent way - plus a couple of dozen others who will tread on others to get what they want.
Don't get so wound up! It's only the internet.
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The problem is Smithie,
You should've been an officer in the army, Gold, you didn't need to use any more words after 'Smithie'.
The problem with Smithie is he looks outwards and blames everything/one external to him for the way he is/feels, yet won't/can't see the problem is in the other direction.
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There's a repetitive pattern with your posts Smithie.
You ask a question, add a bit of arrogance into the mix insulting other members, and then cry off that you are being bullied.
It's childish.
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Smithie, you didn't pose a simple question. You wanted to pontificate again and started it in the form a condescending question. You didn't want our thoughts and views, you wanted to give us the answer; your answer.
You say we should all sing from the same hymn sheet but it has to be your hymn sheet or you start to sulk.
You want to change the general perception of window cleaning but it doesn't worry me or many others, so we might indulge in a bit of micky taking but you can't handle this.
And you shouldn't judge someone by the job they do, but you seem to, because you have a problem with it.
Look after yourself, Smithie, that's all you can do.
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Thank all to all you nice gentlemen for your kind words.But there is no need i have developed a thick skin on here. I am sorry that I defended my self when I was taken the ppp of and spoke out when I was verbally attacked. I also am sorry that I cannot put my story forward in an except fable fashion and that my motives are so construed. I obviously do things in a way that offend so many of you. This is not done intentionally I am just as baffled as you are at the response I raise, but its not really my intention. I think it would be best for me and you that I keep my thoughts to my self as they have no value to any on here, if they create such drama. I will not be contributing to this forum is future but will only read as the large majority do. So I will NOT be closing my account. I am sure this post will attract another avalanche of bile. Heart moving etc. But so be it.
P.S Thanks to the few chaps like Spruce that really did understand and even defended me at times and were I am coming from.
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I think it would be best for me and you that I keep my thoughts to my self as they have no value to any on here, if they create such drama. I will not be contributing to this forum is future but will only read
Sorry mate you will have to ask someone else as I am not going to bother writing on this forum anymore. Might read but no write.Cheers.
That's at least twice you've posted that you're not going to post anymore. Are you waiting for someone to beg you to post? What a drama queen ??? From all the posters on here, you've been the most arrogant and condescending, moaning plonker I've seen for a long time. It's hard for members to understand your posts because of lack of effort from you to post properly. Check what you've scrawled on the screen before hitting the "post" button. Words are hacked up, have no relevance to the sentence and are poorly spelled.
I'm not a grammar NAZI by any means, but a lot of the flak you get is from the poor way you post, without any effort to clear points that have been mis-understood.
Don't know what you did before you ended up cleaning windows, but it can't have been anything to do with communication with other people ???
It's easy to see you have a poor opinion of window cleaners in general, and your self in particular, and you're being offensive to your fellow windies. Maybe if you had a break from this trade, and went toff to do a "better" way of earning a crust, you'd be able to settle down.
Be sure to let us know how you get on in whatever you get into in the time you're away and no longer posting on here. I'll look forward to reading your progress.
Hope you're not too miffed, Byyyeee
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cozy say it has it is ;D ;D ;D
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I ask a question all I get is a personal abuse.Like you have just done eg. mind game playing arrogant idiot,its straight to the insults and a discussion about weather I am drunk or on drugs or am I mentally sane, in a mans face which leads to defending my self.Its not easy when you get it from all sides.Taking the mick is not so great when you are on the receiving all the time.Some times this forum is awash with rude bullies.It just takes one to start and you all like a bunch of hyenas with a mass attack in a cowardly manner.When you don`t grasp the question take the mick is the next agenda. Its quite correct as some said on here you are the lowest of the low not my words. Any way I will not respond to anything anymore. I just don`t need this crap.
If you read back I was not straight onto the insults at all. If you read what you posted it's basically unintelligible and lends itself to the results.
Sorry if this is insulting or rude, but what you post, and what you complain of as a result of what you post, and then how you reply, is a self fulfilling prophesy.
What you think of me is your prerogative, and you may be right about me, just as what I type is my choice alone and not yours to decide for me.