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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jk999 on January 19, 2014, 01:17:09 pm

Title: ionic brushes
Post by: jk999 on January 19, 2014, 01:17:09 pm
Anyone used or use ionic brushes, if so what are they like I need a good decent brush fed up off brushes that only last a couple off months
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Lee GLS on January 19, 2014, 01:23:26 pm
I dont know about ionic brushes, but the tecbuk aerial brushes are built to last and clean really well, they are just a bit on the heavy side and the stock it too hard and can cause damage, saying that they probably dont weigh any more than the ionics brushes.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 19, 2014, 01:30:05 pm
Anyone used or use ionic brushes, if so what are they like I need a good decent brush fed up off brushes that only last a couple off months

If you are only getting a few months from a WFP brush then you have probably selected too soft a brush for everyday work. Softer brushes are great for jobs that need this, but if used all of the time they will abrade & wear more quickly.

To improve the life of the brush upgrade to a stiffer bristle formulation. The Ionic brush does have a much stiffer bristle formulation than some brushes so may suit your need for longevity.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Ben wood on January 19, 2014, 01:30:32 pm
Great brushes last forever but do weigh more that gardiner brushes. I feel the same mine don't last so I might start using them again
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Archer on January 19, 2014, 02:36:20 pm

Ionics are excellent brush heads, especially the commercial heads.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: windowswashed on January 19, 2014, 02:59:15 pm

Ionics are excellent brush heads, especially the commercial heads.

Commercial heads are good for shifting dirt, shame they are so heavy and wide. I mostly use gardiners extreme brushes simply because of the lightness in weight and they clean sufficiently (just about) for regular cleans, would like to see more bristles crammed into their extreme brushes to be honest because they would scrub the dirt easier as I'd be happy to compromise the weight of a few ounces in favour of more bristles on the brush as they are getting light enough to compromise weight for better cleaning results so they can be used on new cleans with confidence  :)
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 19, 2014, 03:21:22 pm

Ionics are excellent brush heads, especially the commercial heads.

Commercial heads are good for shifting dirt, shame they are so heavy and wide. I mostly use gardiners extreme brushes simply because of the lightness in weight and they clean sufficiently (just about) for regular cleans, would like to see more bristles crammed into their extreme brushes to be honest because they would scrub the dirt easier as I'd be happy to compromise the weight of a few ounces in favour of more bristles on the brush as they are getting light enough to compromise weight for better cleaning results so they can be used on new cleans with confidence  :)

The Xtreme is very popular because of its light weight. If you do need more scrubbing power then the Super-Lite range have about  twice the bristles fitted to the Xtreme, but are still lighter than competing brushes.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: windowswashed on January 19, 2014, 03:50:57 pm

Ionics are excellent brush heads, especially the commercial heads.

Commercial heads are good for shifting dirt, shame they are so heavy and wide. I mostly use gardiners extreme brushes simply because of the lightness in weight and they clean sufficiently (just about) for regular cleans, would like to see more bristles crammed into their extreme brushes to be honest because they would scrub the dirt easier as I'd be happy to compromise the weight of a few ounces in favour of more bristles on the brush as they are getting light enough to compromise weight for better cleaning results so they can be used on new cleans with confidence  :)

The Xtreme is very popular because of its light weight. If you do need more scrubbing power then the Super-Lite range have about  twice the bristles fitted to the Xtreme, but are still lighter than competing brushes.

Thank you Alex for your comments. Have tried all the range .... extreme brush, sill brush, normal brush but still prefer extreme for size and weight. Use extreme on most work and sill brush on new cleans and other on conservatory roofs.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Aqua Power Solutions on January 19, 2014, 04:05:23 pm
JK999, The standard ionic brush is a fantastic brush, in my view the best brush on the market! Ed
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 19, 2014, 04:08:11 pm
£30 brush lasts two months.....thats 50p a day and we earn what with these brushes? £100 a day? £200 a day? £300 a day?

But as Alex said i would look at your cleaning technique and bristles stiffness.

Gardiner sill brush last a good 4 - 6 months (medium mixed)
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: robbo333 on January 19, 2014, 04:32:38 pm
I would love to see a radius sill brush about 75mm wider and a bit lighter than the current Gardiners one.
How about it Alex?
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 19, 2014, 04:34:02 pm
I would love to see a radius sill brush about 75mm wider and a bit lighter than the current Gardiners one.
How about it Alex?

I have already asked similar.

165 - 185 grams ish grams sill brush, white bristles with the blue inner bristles. I think that brush would be unbeatable.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: robert mitchell on January 19, 2014, 04:48:59 pm
I concur , get on it Alex  ;D
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 19, 2014, 04:52:25 pm
I concur , get on it Alex  ;D

May just make my own now.........will get my coat  :P
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: oliver collins on January 19, 2014, 05:42:15 pm
I had the stiff extreme on my evey day pole lasted a year the bristles around the edges have fallen out but a year is great value for money if u ask me considering how much money it has earnt me

Oliver collins rise n shine cleaning
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: ascjim on January 19, 2014, 05:43:51 pm
brought a brodex brush 5 years ago, still using it lol
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: jk999 on January 19, 2014, 06:20:23 pm
It's the blue n black one from Gardiners I'm using the Centre bristles have gone funny so I want something that's gonna last a lot longer . Don't get me wrong the brushes are fantastic but when they wear they ain't that good.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: PoleKing on January 19, 2014, 06:27:42 pm
Brodex brushes do last forever!
I tried an ionic brush on an SLXII.
Very strong cleaning power, did feel quite heavy compared to the radius cill brush from Gardiners.
I've got a brand new Ionics brush if you want to try it, are you near me?
Text me if you're interested.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Lee GLS on January 19, 2014, 06:34:38 pm
Alex. Could you not make an xtreme brush that has a higher density of bristles as an in between the xtreme and SL? I've had to put a SL on last week because of all the bad weather as the xtreme just wasn't up to it, but the SL just feels like a brick in comparison. I think an xtreme with a weight of 200g ish inc socket, jets, tubes and tee piece would be just about right.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: roundbuilder on January 19, 2014, 06:42:38 pm
I have tried many brushes and by far the best has been my bright green n lite brush. Eats through dirt,muck and dust  and not too heavy either. Has lasted a good 6 months so far and still cleans as good as it did when i bought it.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 19, 2014, 06:48:12 pm
Alex. Could you not make an xtreme brush that has a higher density of bristles as an in between the xtreme and SL? I've had to put a SL on last week because of all the bad weather as the xtreme just wasn't up to it, but the SL just feels like a brick in comparison. I think an xtreme with a weight of 200g ish inc socket, jets, tubes and tee piece would be just about right.

I think the market is crying out for this, the extreme brush is too light now and the sill brush is just a little too heavy for me.

If alex could design a sill brush and a heavier extreme with a max of 200grams then it would be a market winner.

He did say he has some new brushes coming out, I fear we have seen one which is the extreme (white bristles and blue nylon)

I am seriously tempted to try and save a bit of weigh of my sill brush, it just a touch too heavy for me.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Lee GLS on January 19, 2014, 06:57:32 pm
Alex. Could you not make an xtreme brush that has a higher density of bristles as an in between the xtreme and SL? I've had to put a SL on last week because of all the bad weather as the xtreme just wasn't up to it, but the SL just feels like a brick in comparison. I think an xtreme with a weight of 200g ish inc socket, jets, tubes and tee piece would be just about right.

I think the market is crying out for this, the extreme brush is too light now and the sill brush is just a little too heavy for me.

If alex could design a sill brush and a heavier extreme with a max of 200grams then it would be a market winner.

He did say he has some new brushes coming out, I fear we have seen one which is the extreme (white bristles and blue nylon)

I am seriously tempted to try and save a bit of weigh of my sill brush, it just a touch too heavy for me.

I think was smithy's window cleaning that modified a sill brush, he carefully cut the bottom rows of bristles off that clean the cull and was left just the bristles that clean the glass. I keep meaning to buy a cill brush and do this myself, I think it would be and excellent brush at cleaning as well as being light.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 19, 2014, 07:05:53 pm
Alex. Could you not make an xtreme brush that has a higher density of bristles as an in between the xtreme and SL? I've had to put a SL on last week because of all the bad weather as the xtreme just wasn't up to it, but the SL just feels like a brick in comparison. I think an xtreme with a weight of 200g ish inc socket, jets, tubes and tee piece would be just about right.

I think the market is crying out for this, the extreme brush is too light now and the sill brush is just a little too heavy for me.

If alex could design a sill brush and a heavier extreme with a max of 200grams then it would be a market winner.

He did say he has some new brushes coming out, I fear we have seen one which is the extreme (white bristles and blue nylon)

I am seriously tempted to try and save a bit of weigh of my sill brush, it just a touch too heavy for me.

I think was smithy's window cleaning that modified a sill brush, he carefully cut the bottom rows of bristles off that clean the cull and was left just the bristles that clean the glass. I keep meaning to buy a cill brush and do this myself, I think it would be and excellent brush at cleaning as well as being light.

Yeah smithy tests stuff for Alex, i went into his garage about 6 months ago. Nearly wet my pants, what he hasn't got is nobody's business lol

Spent about an hour asking question after question.

I have a couple of sill brush's so may give it a whizz.

I think Alex should do his brushes with his built in quick loq socket. IE so you can't unsrew it, like a moulded socket.

I want to know why we are using brass jets as well? If he can have plastic fan jets made at 1gram instead of 13grams why aint we got plastic pencil jets!

I feel Alex needs to bring us moooooooor stuff now!!! lol
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: rosskesava on January 19, 2014, 07:54:36 pm
Funny how a topic about Ionic brushes turns into yet another Gardiner's topic.
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: jk999 on January 19, 2014, 10:13:00 pm
Lol
Title: Re: ionic brushes
Post by: Dave Willis on January 20, 2014, 04:50:45 pm
It's the blue n black one from Gardiners I'm using the Centre bristles have gone funny so I want something that's gonna last a lot longer . Don't get me wrong the brushes are fantastic but when they wear they ain't that good.


You do realise that's just about the softest brush Gardiners do apart from a cladding brush?