Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: John@ccp on January 18, 2014, 10:15:35 am
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Just been up to extracta in gateshead to pick my machine up after service,while there John showed me there new range of machines using much more powerful vacs that are also quieter and smoother sounding than previous,the exel produces twice the power of the old model for example
Anyone on here using the new machines? I'm seriously tempted given the extra performance at what seems like half the noise
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Single vac and 100psi maximum pump....few hundred pounds more you could have the Enforcer or the Jag. Twin vacs and 600psi pump.
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Single vac and 100psi maximum pump....few hundred pounds more you could have the Enforcer or the Jag. Twin vacs and 600psi pump.
You sure they are all single vac ? they would hardly claim twice the power if was just one 8.4 motor .
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The exel is a twin VAC machine,the machine will only be used for carpets,rugs,upholstery so I don't see the need for 600psi even with 100psi more often that not I run at about 50 to 70psi but I'm relatively new to this trade so I'm open to suggestions regarding pros & cons of different machines but Extracta is relatively close & I've always been happy with service
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Hi John your gallery shows you have a Scorpion which has a 500 psi pump have you replaced it with a 100 psi pump or are you using a different machine now?
I'm sure the Extracta machines are great but their website looks like it was based on a 1973 brochure. They don't have the new models on there, they really need to let the world know if they have updated.
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Hi Robin,a fellow carpet cleaner based in Scotland kindly sent be a couple of pictures & alowed me to use them when I first started out most of the others apart from the drives are mine but many sites out there use library images anyway so I don't see the harm as long you can produce the results
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been running a excel turbo for over a year now more power less noise it does what it says on the can
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been running a excel turbo for over a year now more power less noise it does what it says on the can
Is there any new features on the newer machine ...
Does it have a 2" hose connector .
Are the new motors in parallel .
Is the noise reduction down to the newer 8.4 motors or have they fitted a silencer chamber .
Do you have a 100psi pump , if so is that enough for u , as in , now that the machine can run twice the hose length ( if its 2" hose ) would you need a stronger pump to compensate for any pressure loss at full length .
Any pictures would be appreciated sometime .
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The motors are in parallel
They are 8" I believe
It can take 1.50 or 2" hoses
It as a built in silencer that also takes the heat away
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have they done a truck mount yet ???
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have they done a truck mount yet ???
Looking for an electric truckmount ???
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have they done a truck mount yet ???
Looking for an electric truckmount ???
lol no real truckmounts run on 8vs
they built a truckmount about 25 years ago in a trailer , shame they didn't follow it up
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have they done a truck mount yet ???
Looking for an electric truckmount ???
lol no real truckmounts run on 8vs
they built a truckmount about 25 years ago in a trailer , shame they didn't follow it up
I didnt know they made truckmounts .
I figured u wouldn't want the electric one :)
But hey , there are a couple of muscle car driving macho men on TMF leaving their Prochem everest at home most days in favour of the Mytee Escape ... so perhaps some day .
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John the man you talk about sure loves his mytee
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John the man you talk about sure loves his mytee
Ha Ha yes ! and his rotarys .
This is his ETM van
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2jeqwe0.jpg
The Escape is a bit too expensive over here i think though ... it costs the equivalent of £2800 in the states ... and woodbridge want 8ooo !
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I would put my model c up agains any carpet cleaner its not all about power then again john you wont know what a model c is , ask bry in extracta to show you one ;D I am sure he will have a old photo of a one
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I would put my model c up agains any carpet cleaner its not all about power then again john you wont know what a model c is , ask bry in extracta to show you one ;D I am sure he will have a old photo of a one
I'm intrigued !
I think i found it ...
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2wf4uc4.jpg
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Just been up to extracta in gateshead to pick my machine up after service,while there John showed me there new range of machines using much more powerful vacs that are also quieter and smoother sounding than previous,the exel produces twice the power of the old model for example
Anyone on here using the new machines? I'm seriously tempted given the extra performance at what seems like half the noise
When you say new "range" of machines, do you mean theres more than just a modified Exel ?.
BTW how did the Exel look compared to the original one ?.
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Hi Glynn, All machines will have the super vacs although on the BX will be offered with different VAC options
Looks wise they don't look much different although the Exel that John showed me had been strengthened to cope
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This is the only narrow glimpse there is of the turbo taken from another thread ...
http://oi39.tinypic.com/vgr0ar.jpg
They still have weird see through 1.5" hose port ... but they must have installed a 2" perhaps on the other side .
The vent on the bottom front is new i think and wheels look to be black
Im sure it still has loads of stainless steel and a switch panel full of dials and gauges .
Probably the most significant think is two 8.4 motors on the one cord ... that has not been done before .... that is more power on one cord than the 6.6 storm has on two cords .
And thats done to keep the 3kw immersion on cord two ... which is more usefull in cleaning situations imo than a huge pump .
They might not be able to fit a large pump and still keep the two vacs on one cord ..
even if it comes with 100psi pump , the user could easily swap in something like the 220psi aquatec diaphragm pump that mytee uses on many models .... if u need pressure regulation a crude external regulator could be added ... or even a tap on brass T with an external return hose , giving u 200psi or 100psi with tap on .
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If it has the vacuum we think it has then I'd van mount it and run a separate solution pump from the van battery, I read somewhere that you get a 250 psi water pump to work that was not sure about its litres per min though.
Shaun
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If it has the vacuum we think it has then I'd van mount it and run a separate solution pump from the van battery, I read somewhere that you get a 250 psi water pump to work that was not sure about its litres per min though.
Shaun
Im sure it has very good vacuum , but i still wouldn't expect miracles from any two motor machine ... now if you had four , two on each cord that would be something !
Id say you could put an Ashbys style 400psi pumptec in the turbo if you were determined , its just they probably cant go over 13amps or so per cord as a manufacturer , but the user could ... its not like an extra amp will do much .
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The way i look at it this... most portables use similar motors and pumps, the real magic is in the design and construction of the body...
Ashby's, whether you like them or not have created a very well thought out portable machine which is as solid as a rock using high quality 5.7 motors instead of the 6.6's.
The attention to detail is what partly sold me the machine... integrated cable and plug management, a waste tank which empties everything due to its shape, recessed valves and controls, delayed motor start up for remote switch on,easy access to the motors etc.., sturdy lockable front casters, external silencer which does actually reduce air noise massively, shower proof body.
Unless Extracta has a machine which significantly out performs the competition i don't see them breaking any new gound.
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I'm not 100% sure but when John put the pressure gauge on the waste inlet of the Exel it gave a figure of 18 inch mercury which when compared to the old machine looked to be about double could be mistaken though.
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Vacuum alone is not sufficient. You also need airflow. Some of these readings are meaningless.
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I'm not 100% sure but when John put the pressure gauge on the waste inlet of the Exel it gave a figure of 18 inch mercury which when compared to the old machine looked to be about double could be mistaken though.
If your sure about that then it means the vacs are in series ! thats a departure for extracta .... but probably makes sense when the 8.4 has good airflow .
So it would have 18hg and about 140+cfm .
Russ . Agree , Enforcer is probably the overall best designed fullsize machine out there .
Gotta admire the old school quality build of the Excel too though , they go to the trouble of a comprehensive switch panel with dials and gauges fuses adjustable heat etc ... when many just have a couple of switches .
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Vacuum alone is not sufficient. You also need airflow. Some of these readings are meaningless.
yes i agree , the CFM and lift figures measured at 2" open( cfm ) and fully closed (lift ) dont exist when cleaning .
A measurment taken when the wand is cleaning in the carpet is the only accurate indication ... it a bit trickier to measure though .
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Thought I would take another look at their Web Site
They Still recon in their Business Opportunty Section you should charge between 75p to £1.50 a square Metre
Perhaps that is the rate Price Shopper CUSTOMERS say YES
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Vacuum alone is not sufficient. You also need airflow. Some of these readings are meaningless.
;D do you have an exel john ::)roll
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No, but I've got a Scrubber here gathering dust and Rotary that needs to go back to it's owner. :P ;D