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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tony Edwards on January 17, 2014, 05:49:14 pm
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Question for the pros on here.
Looking for a new machine soon and seen both of these two. I only work top end residential and have no desire for commercial work atm as I earn well doing what I am doing.
Can you guys advise which of these you would go for and your reasons
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-HP-DIESEL-PRESSURE-WASHER-GENUINE-YANMAR-L100-/330418713579
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-GX390-PRESSURE-WASHER-13HP-21LTRS-3000PSI-WS202-/170571125422
The Yanmar is 3000 PSI and I believe 15LPM
The Honda also 3000 PSI but 21 LPM
Why the huge price difference for a machine that knocks out less LPM than the Honda ?
Any advice appreciated
cheers
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Diesel engines cost twice as much to buy in the first place..hence the price difference. Per cc the honda engines turn out more "power" than the diesels .Hence you can have a small ,lighter ,quieter,cheaper (engine to buy) turning a bigger pump.
The equivalent 21lpm diesel model would need to be twin cylinder,heavier,noisier and cost Three times the price.
I am a big fan of the 250bar 15lpm Honda petrols these are cheap enough to run and more versatile.
I am now going to get slated to death from the big boys ;D ;D ;D
Q washers... your second ebay selection and ask him to build it with a ws251 instead of the ws201..it will be the same price. You might struggle to find enough water for 21lpm without turning the machine down.
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The 'pros' Chris - Are you qualified to answer?
Rob ;D
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No.... I was just the precursor for the 30lpm brigade ;D ;D
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The 'pros' Chris - Are you qualified to answer?
Rob ;D
Rob
your opinion pls mate would be appreciated
cheers chris
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Swings and roundabouts there.
I have always had diesel engined pressure washers and have five at the moment.
When you are looking at the 15 - 21LPM machines you are going to get really good fuel economy, as opposed to slightly higher for petrol.
On 15LPM the difference is around £10.00 per day. We could easily get 6 hours out of the smaller diesel machines.
Anyone will tell you it is a combination of flow & pressure. I cleaned hundreds of stores on 15LPM (diesel) but I wish I had had 21LPM and above, now I have them!
How much is the Zeta (Washy) Washbrook where are you?. He bought one last year
Rob ;D
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You could get two very good second hand machines for the price of the one and couple them together if you want 30 PM or keep separate for 15LPM x 2 operators.
If you don't trust that route giv me a shout and I will keep an eye out. There is a couple on Ebay at the moment
Rob ;D
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Is that good advice Guru Chris?
Rob ;D
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I've had four of these, over six years
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diesel-pressure-washer-/221354477012?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3389c145d4
Don't know its history but it looks tidy
Rob ;D
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Another
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRESSURE-POWER-WASH-HILTA-DIESEL-/121254820311?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item1c3b59b9d7
That might be kinky Kenny up that way!
Rob ;D
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This will bring you way above Chris's level and put you with the god from Manchester! ;)
Still not as good as the H & M
Rob ;D
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OOps
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHALE-FALCH-COMPACT-T3H-4350-PSI-GUM-GRAFFITI-REMOVER-HOT-PRESSURE-WASHER-DEUTZ-/321225678073?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item4aca8adcf9
Rob ;D
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For your money there is a pile of drain jetters that would easily be converted to twin operator set ups
Rob ;D
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http://www.allpumpsdirect.co.uk/delta-honda-petrol-engine-driven-interpump-pressure-washer-DT15250PHR
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http://www.allpumpsdirect.co.uk/delta-honda-petrol-engine-driven-interpump-pressure-washer-DT15250PHR
Can't see that being beaten :o
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http://www.allpumpsdirect.co.uk/delta-honda-petrol-engine-driven-interpump-pressure-washer-DT15250PHR
Can't see that being beaten :o
AllPumpsDirect are really good on price. They have a good range too. I bought a new pump from them and it was £90 cheaper than anywhere else delivered.
If it was me, id buy the 21lpm. We do quite a bit of domestic and have only had to wait for the water to catch up twice. If you have a decent buffer tank you will be fine. If you dont mind paying for petrol, then a petrol machine would probably suit your clientele better (high end properties) as they run quieter.
The qwasher machine (21lpm Honda petrol) is a good machine. Darran (smudger) on here bought on i believe.
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Nothing beats Falch, even H&M. ;D Future services coming from Blast Away will be 2500 Bar road markings removal. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72d-UHcdjk
You can put a 21LPM pump on a Yanmar 10hp but you'll get around 170 Bar.
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Thanks for the advice guys
Rob
Thanks for those mate, just prefer to buy new so it will last
Cheers
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Well i have ordered a Farrow 185 and Falch Trail Jet 100 2500-20-D . My patio jobs have picked up this year ! Ed :D
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In my experience you need to consider several key areas
1, Engin - Certainly 11 or 13 hp Honda is hard to beat in every respect.
2, Quality of Pump- Be careful there are a lot of cheap imported pumps out there.. these appear very similar to quality pumps, supplied for example by Interpump... but will often only last a few months with no parts available to fix.
3, Overall construction and strength of frame.
4, Local service facilities, warranty and manufacturers back up
Hope this helps
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Nothing beats Falch, even H&M. ;D Future services coming from Blast Away will be 2500 Bar road markings removal. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72d-UHcdjk
You can put a 21LPM pump on a Yanmar 10hp but you'll get around 170 Bar.
Lee
I just picked one of these up last week!
http://www.falch.com/products/aqua-speed-450w-g130.html
We only use it for cleaning the Grinding Machines and Planetery Heads down but its fabulous. Falch is the way to go but you need the work for them as well.
I am just chasing one of these at the moment
http://www.falch.com/products/machines/t5-g516.html
The only issue I have with them is the onboard water tank is far too small in my opinion
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Nothing beats Falch, even H&M. ;D Future services coming from Blast Away will be 2500 Bar road markings removal. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72d-UHcdjk
You can put a 21LPM pump on a Yanmar 10hp but you'll get around 170 Bar.
Lee
I just picked one of these up last week!
http://www.falch.com/products/aqua-speed-450w-g130.html
We only use it for cleaning the Grinding Machines and Planetery Heads down but its fabulous. Falch is the way to go but you need the work for them as well.
I am just chasing one of these at the moment
http://www.falch.com/products/machines/t5-g516.html
The only issue I have with them is the onboard water tank is far too small in my opinion
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
What do you want 500 bar for? There's no heat on that and it's on the same trailer as a T3H. The next one up is the trail jet 30 with a 400 litre tank.
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Nothing beats Falch, even H&M. ;D Future services coming from Blast Away will be 2500 Bar road markings removal. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72d-UHcdjk
You can put a 21LPM pump on a Yanmar 10hp but you'll get around 170 Bar.
Lee
I just picked one of these up last week!
http://www.falch.com/products/aqua-speed-450w-g130.html
We only use it for cleaning the Grinding Machines and Planetery Heads down but its fabulous. Falch is the way to go but you need the work for them as well.
I am just chasing one of these at the moment
http://www.falch.com/products/machines/t5-g516.html
The only issue I have with them is the onboard water tank is far too small in my opinion
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Are you taking up stone carving?
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No - dustless demolition
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Nothing beats Falch, even H&M. ;D Future services coming from Blast Away will be 2500 Bar road markings removal. 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y72d-UHcdjk
You can put a 21LPM pump on a Yanmar 10hp but you'll get around 170 Bar.
Lee
I just picked one of these up last week!
http://www.falch.com/products/aqua-speed-450w-g130.html
We only use it for cleaning the Grinding Machines and Planetery Heads down but its fabulous. Falch is the way to go but you need the work for them as well.
I am just chasing one of these at the moment
http://www.falch.com/products/machines/t5-g516.html
The only issue I have with them is the onboard water tank is far too small in my opinion
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
What do you want 500 bar for? There's no heat on that and it's on the same trailer as a T3H. The next one up is the trail jet 30 with a 400 litre tank.
Lee
I don't I am buying it for a customer who wants it
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Thats very benevolent of you
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My generosity is never ending ;D ;D ;D ;D
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Rob leave me alone I'm in thailand back next Wednesday it's fantastic thailand and the zeta ;D
I paid 3250 inc vat for the 23ltr/min ;D