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Title: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: roundbuilder on January 17, 2014, 03:47:07 pm
http://www.gumtree.com/p/business-services/traditional-window-cleaning-gutter-cleaning-home-office-cleaning-/1045247618


Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys slating wfp??
Post by: windymiller on January 17, 2014, 03:49:21 pm
He is wanting to buy a round on the rounds for sale section of this forum ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys slating wfp??
Post by: Flash.. on January 17, 2014, 03:50:44 pm
What is it with Dorset window cleaners Mick ;)  We are not all numptys honestly!!
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: windymiller on January 17, 2014, 03:51:25 pm
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=180998.0
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: roundbuilder on January 17, 2014, 03:52:23 pm
Lol flash!.
The guy is an arse the way he is spamming gumtree and bad mouthing wfp.
Sounds verey desperate for work to be lowering himself to advertise like that and to be spamming gumtree with umpteen adds up.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: roundbuilder on January 17, 2014, 03:52:57 pm
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=180998.0

Lol.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys slating wfp??
Post by: DaveG on January 17, 2014, 04:15:25 pm
What is it with Dorset window cleaners Mick ;)  We are not all numptys honestly!!

Yes we are !!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: H2GoKent on January 17, 2014, 04:27:47 pm
LOL
Smell the fear.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: andyM on January 17, 2014, 04:33:43 pm
Touchy aren't we?  ;D

To be fair you can't remove paint or silicone sealant with a water fed pole.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 17, 2014, 04:39:07 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: bobplum on January 17, 2014, 04:43:50 pm
good sales tactic i would say.
If there is a problem, just maybe a lot of customers are binning the pole system in his area and his playing on it.

If anything its the poor workmanship  of the window cleaners using the pole system who are creating this opportunity
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: Dave Willis on January 17, 2014, 04:50:00 pm
Can't understand the problem myself we all know wfp is crap.

Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: DaveG on January 17, 2014, 04:52:39 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D

Have to agree with this..
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 17, 2014, 04:55:47 pm
Hold up...I cover Bournemouth and Poole and i've got a pole system and I get fed up occasionally. Perhaps they mean me  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 17, 2014, 04:57:22 pm
Am I bothered...NO!
Sorry had to add that post to get to 400  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 17, 2014, 05:11:50 pm
Can't understand the problem myself we all know wfp is crap.



dont be bitter because wfp has given you a gardiner addiction ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: Cleanmywindows on January 17, 2014, 05:25:50 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D

Have to agree with this..

Thank you. I have removed them from Gumtree as It seem's to be causing to many issues with folks on here.

Business is Business right?

I have always believed getting stuck in hands on method works and I enjoy working at height. I was only trying to sale myself because there is so many window cleaners in my area.

Comments from MR.Poleman doesn't really help me and makes me sound out im slating all WFP cleaners which I didn't intend to do. Maybe he should go back to 'educating his customers' he should know what I mean.

Anyways I'm sorry if I have upset so many people.

Thanks

Andy
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: elite mike on January 17, 2014, 06:23:59 pm
nice bit of honesty there ,good luck  8)
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: deeege on January 17, 2014, 06:38:49 pm
I don't see the problem personally.

A trad window cleaner using the USP of "we remove all silicone / and dried on muck" is no different to a WFP'er saying "we clean all frames and sills every visit". Of course we all sell the benefits of our own chosen method.

He hasn't said anything about any individual company either so there's no bother there. Good luck to you I say, and welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: dave0123 on January 17, 2014, 06:40:47 pm
Then blame the window cleaner for doing a bad job and not the pole!.. just the same as you would if someone was a crap cleaner using mop and blade!!!
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: PoleKing on January 17, 2014, 06:43:53 pm
Trad or WFP neither are removing silicone.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 17, 2014, 06:46:18 pm
There are so many BAD wfp operators out there he is onto a VERY good thing! IMO.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: bobplum on January 17, 2014, 07:28:26 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D

Have to agree with this..

Thank you. I have removed them from Gumtree as It seem's to be causing to many issues with folks on here.

Business is Business right?

I have always believed getting stuck in hands on method works and I enjoy working at height. I was only trying to sale myself because there is so many window cleaners in my area.

Comments from MR.Poleman doesn't really help me and makes me sound out im slating all WFP cleaners which I didn't intend to do. Maybe he should go back to 'educating his customers' he should know what I mean.

Anyways I'm sorry if I have upset so many people.

Thanks

Andy


im with you ;), as i said good sales tactic
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: Cleanmywindows on January 17, 2014, 08:16:43 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.

Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: PoleKing on January 17, 2014, 08:43:19 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: richard groves on January 17, 2014, 09:47:41 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
except with silicone remover and a scraper blade  ::)roll and you lot call yourselves window cleaners !  :D ;)
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robertphil on January 17, 2014, 10:25:59 pm
i saw a guy burning his entire wfp set up.   went up like krakatoa it did
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: PoleKing on January 17, 2014, 11:02:44 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
except with silicone remover and a scraper blade  ::)roll and you lot call yourselves window cleaners !  :D ;)

Nope. Definitely not. You'll remove the excess but the silicone will still be there.
Next time you remove some silicone then WFP it you'll still see where it was.
Don't try & be smart. It doesn't suit you.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: oldman on January 18, 2014, 06:51:52 am

Don't try & be smart. It doesn't suit you.


 ;D  ;D  ;D.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: richard groves on January 18, 2014, 08:27:19 am
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
except with silicone remover and a scraper blade  ::)roll and you lot call yourselves window cleaners !  :D ;)
Don't try & be smart. It doesn't suit you.
Oh really ? have you looked in the mirror lately ?
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: richard groves on January 18, 2014, 09:13:26 am
And cleanmywindows,
there was nothing wrong with your ad,  don't let this clicky knitting circle of faceless nobody's put you off
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: PoleKing on January 18, 2014, 01:55:17 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
except with silicone remover and a scraper blade  ::)roll and you lot call yourselves window cleaners !  :D ;)
Don't try & be smart. It doesn't suit you.
Oh really ? have you looked in the mirror lately ?

Yeah, shared the mirror this morning with your mrs while she was having a shave.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: Ben wood on January 18, 2014, 04:24:14 pm
Your missing the point. If he is great he would not have to bad mouth others to get work. I don't know him personally but live in the same area. Maybe he should do a day with some one like poleman who has been in this trade for years. He might realise what poles are about. And be able to grow his business better.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 18, 2014, 05:43:55 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: Clever Forum Name on January 18, 2014, 05:55:15 pm
I do not see the issue.

I list on my website the advantages of wfp over trad. So in a way i am knocking trad.

The ONLY trad i like doing now is commercial, anything else and you can actually shove it!

Taken from a trad website.....

Traditional is a proven window cleaning technique that offers the best possible results. Unlike those using a WFP system our cleaners are able to make a close inspection of all windows once finished. This reduces the risk of any marks being left by accident. To find out more on the benefits of this method over the waterfed brush system, for window cleaning,
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 18, 2014, 06:18:05 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D

Have to agree with this..

Thank you. I have removed them from Gumtree as It seem's to be causing to many issues with folks on here.

Business is Business right?

I have always believed getting stuck in hands on method works and I enjoy working at height. I was only trying to sale myself because there is so many window cleaners in my area.

Comments from MR.Poleman doesn't really help me and makes me sound out im slating all WFP cleaners which I didn't intend to do. Maybe he should go back to 'educating his customers' he should know what I mean.

Anyways I'm sorry if I have upset so many people.

Thanks

Andy


Andy, forget all the stupid comments above (including mine) you've made an effort to get new business so fair play to you.
You've used your USP (unique selling point) as a trad window cleaner to your advantage...and you should; every business does it.
I'm based in Wallisdown so send me an email and I'll show my wfp pole setup if you're interested (it is the way to go mate). You may think it's crap but you can give it a shot and see if you like it. Also i've got some trad stuff I don't use anymore that may be of use to you. May cost you a beer.
Cheers
Pete

Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: richard groves on January 18, 2014, 06:21:19 pm
Your missing the point. If he is great he would not have to bad mouth others to get work. I don't know him personally but live in the same area. Maybe he should do a day with some one like poleman who has been in this trade for years. He might realise what poles are about. And be able to grow his business better.
I think I must have,
cleanmywindows has advertised his business on the strength of traditional methods,
"had enough of the pole" is hardly bad mouthing and doing anybody any harm, I cannot understand what all the fuss is about. There are plenty of period properties out there that are more suited to cleaning with traditional methods anyhow and there are quite a few on here who I am sure will only target upvc double glazed properties because they are more suited to the pole.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: richard groves on January 18, 2014, 06:27:47 pm
Depending on you can use a window scapper with a stanley blade and 'KNOW' how to use it you can remove pretty much anything.



Except silicone. Once on, that ain't ever coming off.
except with silicone remover and a scraper blade  ::)roll and you lot call yourselves window cleaners !  :D ;)
Don't try & be smart. It doesn't suit you.
Oh really ? have you looked in the mirror lately ?

Yeah, shared the mirror this morning with your mrs while she was having a shave.
I am all for a laugh Darren,
but don't try to be funny unless you can do it without being offensive.
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 18, 2014, 06:30:54 pm
Your missing the point. If he is great he would not have to bad mouth others to get work. I don't know him personally but live in the same area. Maybe he should do a day with some one like poleman who has been in this trade for years. He might realise what poles are about. And be able to grow his business better.
I think I must have,
cleanmywindows has advertised his business on the strength of traditional methods,
"had enough of the pole" is hardly bad mouthing and doing anybody any harm, I cannot understand what all the fuss is about. There are plenty of period properties out there that are more suited to cleaning with traditional methods anyhow and there are quite a few on here who I am sure will only target upvc double glazed properties because they are more suited to the pole.

Absolutely right!
If I was Andy, i'd target bungalows with retired couples for £13 a pop plus conservatory...there's loads.
P.S. Bournemouth is crap for window cleaning...don't come here  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: DaveG on January 18, 2014, 06:38:19 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D

Oi, you talking bout my Mrs and sister? (Same person)  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 18, 2014, 06:46:21 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D


Yeah...the Uni's aren't that good in Bournemouth  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robertphil on January 18, 2014, 06:57:04 pm
great beach !
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 18, 2014, 08:00:28 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D


Yeah...the Uni's aren't that good in Bournemouth  ;D

yep i know he is transfering to manchester :)
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 18, 2014, 08:01:23 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D

Oi, you talking bout my Mrs and sister? (Same person)  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 18, 2014, 08:06:27 pm
Again he hasnt bad mouthed anyone,he has just asked the question
and advertised himself.

Lot of fear down there

My eldest lad is at uni in bournemouth,he reckons you lot down
there are a little strange

Something to do with having webbed hands and feet ;D ;D


Yeah...the Uni's aren't that good in Bournemouth  ;D

yep i know he is transfering to manchester :)

Shame...he'll miss all the good looking girls in Bournemouth (with webbed hands and feet obviously)  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: gary999 on January 18, 2014, 08:11:08 pm
nah not really he likes it down there :) :)

all the birds at his uni are either londoners or from surrounding areas
slim pickings there for anything decent ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: robbo333 on January 18, 2014, 09:07:56 pm
nah not really he likes it down there :) :)

all the birds at his uni are either londoners or from surrounding areas
slim pickings there for anything decent ;D

I was actually born and raised in Romford, Essex but moved here three years ago.
The girls here are really hot (even the ugly ones are pretty!)
This is what posts should be about  ;D
Title: Re: Does this seem desperate to you guys? to be slating wfp??
Post by: windiewasher on January 18, 2014, 11:38:34 pm
Dont know what the fuss is personally..some people dont
like the pole,if he appeals to them fairplay.He hasnt bad mouthed
any particular individual or company.

Hardly think this person is going to affect the whole wfp industry
some of you really need to get a grip ;D

Have to agree with this..

Thank you. I have removed them from Gumtree as It seem's to be causing to many issues with folks on here.

Business is Business right?

I have always believed getting stuck in hands on method works and I enjoy working at height. I was only trying to sale myself because there is so many window cleaners in my area.

Comments from MR.Poleman doesn't really help me and makes me sound out im slating all WFP cleaners which I didn't intend to do. Maybe he should go back to 'educating his customers' he should know what I mean.

Anyways I'm sorry if I have upset so many people.

Thanks

Andy
I hear this a lot wfp is rubbish trad is so much better blah blah blah
then a few months down the line im going wfp!