Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Evans on January 16, 2014, 07:12:37 pm
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Why do People have ago about this movement.
Most of the negative comments seem to come from people who are
not Known.
Please reveal your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul Evans ( Easy to find )
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the last time I revealed myself....
It cost me £300 from a magistrate..
;D ;D
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the last time I revealed myself....
It cost me £300 from a magistrate..
;D ;D
That's strange! They usually pay for that service.
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Not in Hectors case he has to pay them :D
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;D ;D
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
And the acceptance parameters are set by and enforced by one man - a man who has less industry experience than most.
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He may not have the years experience of some of us but has got off his backside and had the initiative to set up a federation that i for one have got work from being a member of>
How people can slate doers who put the time in with little rewward for themselves is beyond me. ???
Andy locke.
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As somebody who has been in the industry a long time I see those parameters as sound.
In fact I would personally make it more elitist. Anybody who does not see the benefits of having what is basically an entry level machine, mechanical agitation is a must but a crb is just vastly superior to rotary. Then there is the old chestnut training anybody without should not be in the game, after all it is an organisation for people who know what they are doing. If I have any reservation about it, it is not choosy enough and is a personal view that people cannot do a couple of courses and become proficient in an industry such as this. Yes they can make a living but I think that an understanding takes a lot longer.
Derek's search for knowledge is inspiring and in the time he has spent in the industry has learnt more than most.
That is better than the majority that like to advise people on subjects they know nothing about themselves.
Peter
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Derek has invested a lot of time and money in something to help our industry I don't see why there would be any complaints . Well done old boy keep it up :) :)
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Hi Guys
Criticism is O.K provided it is constructive but to be credible you need to be honest about who you are not hide behind a cloak of anonymity.
Cheers
Doug
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Shaun Ashmore, I know exactly what you can and cannot see as I run an SMF forum. Anonymouse changes the persons IP without doubt. Don't try and get clever with words.
My IP today is 193.200.150.125
which is today being routered in from Switzerland via the Seychelles ;)
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Shaun Ashmore, I know exactly what you can and cannot see as I run an SMF forum. Anonymouse changes the persons IP without doubt. Don't try and get clever with words.
'Anonymouse'!!! ::)roll. Dawsons - it's one thing for Shaun to misspell the word. For you to perpetuate it shows a certain lack of 'something' which we won't bother to spell out to you. It ain't got anything to do with mice ;)
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Hey Dawson's boy, you clearly don't belong on here so why don't you crawl back into your hole and stay there for good?!
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Can anyone see the irony here?
The TACCA site does not allow proxies (well the $6 a month beginners' stuff like Anonymouse anyway) so the poster would be unable to ask his questions there.
I reckon it's Sally Bercow ;D
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Hi guys sorry had to comment onthat other post. No reply so i take its locked.
Its very expensive to be little fish big in large pond in marketing. But you can finance things like trade show stands and stunts like world records. Window cleaners have used this in past
Anyway. My point is you all can make something from nothing. If your like me you take images of each jobs. Well this has value to tenants as if thay have to prove that thay did not cause a stain its unlikly they have images of the carpets when thay moved in.now some carpet cleaner had cleaned those carpets. If they had submitted them To a national database tbat tenant would have access at a price to them.
Now this has a benfit to members as over time you would have a national datbase of many rented homes. This now has benifit to carpet cleaners to use for mailshots at the market rate per thousand address. This will not happen over night but in time would be a massive asset to any assocation. For both customer protection and by using members getting access and to addresses from the database.
Now the money raised can fund PR type markets like virgin does. That type og marketing gets you on local news sites and papers for free. Everyone goes on about porty and tm how about contests. You could go up against each other or set a standard size that cleaners can have a go at beating.
Just run the numbers on members that have done move outs over last year. This will show how quick a national datbase can be built. As has been said here its the goup that adds power o er being on your own. Members will want to see return if they pay for something. Tbis way what thay give is just images at no cost to them. And if they want to benifit them thats the time to ask for payment for renting tbe list.
Not only will tjis help but also build local coops of cleaners that trust each other that can then look at taking on big jobs locally. And maybe as a assocation national co tracts
Also dont insurance companies award contract to franchises on stain removal on the percentage of successful removals. Again another resorce if you can track and prove the rates. Images again help with this. You have to ask how a franchise can prove these rates. If a assocation came along with real proff then this would up the game for everyone and put the small fish alongside the big one.
Btw you dont want to use money th market to homes its the insurance companies and national chains. Lets not forget big cleaning companies just stick some person on the end of a wand and thats the standard they get. A professional will always do better. But dont forget thats what you being compaired
To. Thats a differant topic.
Respects Ian Harper
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Unfortunately Insurance companies don't seem to care about results, it will raise its head over time if they are poor. What they are concerned about is ticking boxes, or KPI's as they call them. Key Point Indicators, basically they want information on how quickly the customer was contacted, how soon you attended, a report back within a certain time frame, usually 24 hours.
Unless you have office based and management staff keeping tabs on this stuff then its a no go.
As regards national chains of hotels etc. One of the main franchises spent tens of thousands of pounds on this and the same amount on tv adverts with absolutely no result to speak of.
Personally I think it would be better to try and educate the public with more subtle means.
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As far as I am concerned they do no harm , Industry experts support them , maybe the advertising idea has not caught on but overall Derek has done a Brilliant job and would no doubt be elected President i am completely unbiased as I am not a member
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
like me ! but ive been cleaning longer then the guy who set it up and we have been tradeing longer then the ncca and tacca and ttmcca all put togather x2 guess were cowboys eh s??? sorry cow girls ;D
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there are a lot of cleaners out there who have been at it for years, doesn't mean they are all doing it right.
and on the other side of the coin you do not need to have been be involved in the carpet cleaning industry for a long while to realise it's shortcomings or figure out the basic equipment and training needed to become a competent operative.
Derek has done that with some success and is moving forward at a steady pace to achieve the goals he has set himself for the organisation he has founded.
good on him
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Just out of interest...
Why do you not qualify to join Susan?? I would have thought with a TM or 2 and rotary etc you would fit the bill nicely..
I only ask, as I do not qualify to be a member either.. ;D
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
like me ! but ive been cleaning longer then the guy who set it up and we have been tradeing longer then the ncca and tacca and ttmcca all put togather x2 guess were cowboys eh s??? sorry cow girls ;D
NCCA 40 years+ TACCA 2 years plus TTMCA ?
Your doing well foe a lady in her 100s ;D ;D ;D
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there are a lot of cleaners out there who have been at it for years, doesn't mean they are all doing it right.
and on the other side of the coin you do not need to have been be involved in the carpet cleaning industry for a long while to realise it's shortcomings or figure out the basic equipment and training needed to become a competent operative.
Derek has done that with some success and is moving forward at a steady pace to achieve the goals he has set himself for the organisation he has founded.
good on him
and theres a lot of cleaners that have been of every train course going and driving around with there ncca stickers all over there vans that I wouldn't let clean the dishes let alone my carpet
the amount of work ive had to put right buy these so called top end cleaners is shocking ! they spend a arm and leg learning rubbish then come on here and ask how to remove daft marks ???? so please tell me about what they are learning ??because it isn't the basics
when I train my staff theres no sending them to a class room to hear a old fat guy that think he knows it all and is there to push just one of two companys and there chems because he gets is stuff cheaper for himself we all know this goes on
there sat on the shoulder of my top cleaner for two years befoure we let them out on there own its the only way, invest in them and they will pay you back many times over and yet they can not join this old boys club ?????
would you rather let someone clean your carpet that's done every coruse yet only ever cleaned his own carpet befour yours ?or would you rather have someone that sat on the should of someone that's been cleaning 25 years and been on 100s of jobs and cleaned many many carpets under the watchful eye of a pro ??
ill just keep my staff going with our cowboy set ups and our beaten to death old vans ;)
oh and I am not hideing if mr d wants to a chat I am more then happy to send my top cleaner round to his house any time were only 40 minutes away and Julian will be more then happy to say what ive said to his face befoure you all start
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
like me ! but ive been cleaning longer then the guy who set it up and we have been tradeing longer then the ncca and tacca and ttmcca all put togather x2 guess were cowboys eh s??? sorry cow girls ;D
NCCA 40 years+ TACCA 2 years plus TTMCA ?
Your doing well foe a lady in her 100s ;D ;D ;D
guess a was lucky getting the company from my little old daddy that got it from his little old daddy so tell me big man about how long have you been in the cleaning trade ? ::)roll
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Just out of interest...
Why do you not qualify to join Susan?? I would have thought with a TM or 2 and rotary etc you would fit the bill nicely..
I only ask, as I do not qualify to be a member either.. ;D
because we have not done any course were they class us as cowboys ,
saying that MY husband went on a iirc course thing at hydromaster when getting the truckmount fitted afew years back he only did it for a laugh , 89% pass rate not bad for a giggle guess the old cowboy as leant something over the years ;D
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Much of the criticism will come from people who do not qualify to join.
Leave them to it.
Peter
like me ! but ive been cleaning longer then the guy who set it up and we have been tradeing longer then the ncca and tacca and ttmcca all put togather x2 guess were cowboys eh s??? sorry cow girls ;D
NCCA 40 years+ TACCA 2 years plus TTMCA ?
Your doing well foe a lady in her 100s ;D ;D ;D
guess a was lucky getting the company from my little old daddy that got it from his little old daddy so tell me big man about how long have you been in the cleaning trade ? ::)roll
Whats all that about ( tell me big man )roll eyes
I aint no big Man (more fat man) ;D
But built from scratch, not handed on a plate from little old Daddy.
3 Years trading I was a little apprehensive when first starting out, so did the courses.
I agree this is classroom, and on the job experience is as much relevant.
Just my thoughts
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Got my first lead from the TACCA sight to day. 8)
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this tacca is all bull poop its run on a shoe string and as no beafit to customers at all , its a flash looking cowboy site heres why
to join the site you have to be trained and have insurance right ? so as every member of this old boys club rang there insurance company and give the tacca the right to check and make sure the cover they have is the right cover ?or if they even have any cover ? if not they can not ring any insurance company because they wont tell them anything ,as hes not the account holder ? so they have fell on there /his own sword right there
lets just say everybody as done the above to which we know they havnt , doesn't he then keep ringing these so called insurance companies say every 8-10 weeks to make sure the tacca member as not canselled or missed a payment voiding the insurance ? if not then please tell me why not ?
again if his/there logo is on the side of the van and he wants to be the top man and run everything better then the rest does he them make sure every tacca members van is tax. tested and insured ??? northing like see a van on tv that's killed someone because its un road worthy with its tacca sticker on the front screen !
training
as he/them been on every training corse ? if not how can he say which is best until hes done them all himself ? once doing them all he can then set a min standard right thought out the uk as we all know each training corse is different
when you join does he do the same as the insurance part checking up ect ect ??? also if new ways and new chems hit the market and the members don't use or do it in the trained manner are they thrown out ?
back to the customers
if a tacca member smashes a t.v. ect ect and there insurance doesn't pay out , does he jump in his van with a roll of cash and weighs the customer in ? if not why not ? where the guaranty of the work menship then ? wheres the saftey net for the pubic ? if he or the tacca is not covering every job with real hard cash where the benefit to the pubic ? there isn't one
so if theres no guaranty of work , no quaranty of replacement of damage or death , no quaranty on training sounds a great get up to me theres no way he can carry on working and set a thing like this up
just a few points I would like answering you say you don't mind questions ect ect there a few for you
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Susan you make some valid points in your post. What would you like to see in a carpet cleaning organisation that advertise to the general public for professional carpet cleaners.
David
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Susan you make some valid points in your post. What would you like to see in a carpet cleaning organisation that advertise to the general public for professional carpet cleaners.
David
its ok banging on and on about training david but what happens when it all goes wrong ?? this is when the men/women steep up to the plate and sort it nice tacca sticker don't sort a shrunken carpet out oh and bust pipe in a house
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Susan you make some valid points in your post. What would you like to see in a carpet cleaning organisation that advertise to the general public for professional carpet cleaners.
David
its ok banging on and on about training david but what happens when it all goes wrong ?? this is when the men/women steep up to the plate and sort it nice tacca sticker don't sort a shrunken carpet out oh and bust pipe in a house
I'am no longer a member of the NCCA, but they give the public a means to readdress a complaint. All organisations are only as good or as strong as the members. At the end of the day we are self employed business people and to stay in business for a long time you have to have a genuine honest believe in giving a good service. My attitude is I'am only as good as the last job that I have done. I've been trading 25 years.
David
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Susan you make some valid points in your post. What would you like to see in a carpet cleaning organisation that advertise to the general public for professional carpet cleaners.
David
its ok banging on and on about training david but what happens when it all goes wrong ?? this is when the men/women steep up to the plate and sort it nice tacca sticker don't sort a shrunken carpet out oh and bust pipe in a house
I'am no longer a member of the NCCA, but they give the public a means to readdress a complaint. All organisations are only as good or as strong as the members. At the end of the day we are self employed business people and to stay in business for a long time you have to have a genuine honest believe in giving a good service. My attitude is I'am only as good as the job that I have done, not I've been trading 25 years.
David
I here what your saying and your right , but when they were setting this tacca up , all the hype and all the fourm talk on how it was going to be diffent ect ect ect but it isn't
I like the "means to readdress a complaint ? " whats this mean anthor voice to moan at for a customer ? if I had a 1400 pounds worth of tv broken via a ncca or a tacca member I want the money for it not to talk to an old boys club member about it wheres the money comeing from ?? or is it a tooth less member ship that's cant do anything like most others
or do any of these take the case right to court for the customer and swallows all the legal cost of the customer win or lose ??
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Susan, every piont you've made could apply to every trade assoation in existance
Can you name another trade association that check its member has insurance and road tax on thier vehicles? Or rings their insurance company every month to check its members have not lapsed on a payment?
What if a A member damages a tv you ask .....
what if he was a gas engineer or an Arial erector, or a home carer would thier association pop round with a big wad of cash and give you your £1400?.....No chance!!
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Thanks.
The negative postings on this thread alone remind me of why I stopped visiting this site.
Some things never change then :-[
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this tacca is all bull poop its run on a shoe string and as no beafit to customers at all , its a flash looking cowboy site heres why
to join the site you have to be trained and have insurance right ? so as every member of this old boys club rang there insurance company and give the tacca the right to check and make sure the cover they have is the right cover ?or if they even have any cover ? if not they can not ring any insurance company because they wont tell them anything ,as hes not the account holder ? so they have fell on there /his own sword right there
Perhaps whilst you are not taking carpet cleaning courses you could use your spare time to take a course to improve your spelling and grammar :o
lets just say everybody as done the above to which we know they havnt , doesn't he then keep ringing these so called insurance companies say every 8-10 weeks to make sure the tacca member as not canselled or missed a payment voiding the insurance ? if not then please tell me why not ?
again if his/there logo is on the side of the van and he wants to be the top man and run everything better then the rest does he them make sure every tacca members van is tax. tested and insured ??? northing like see a van on tv that's killed someone because its un road worthy with its tacca sticker on the front screen !
training
as he/them been on every training corse ? if not how can he say which is best until hes done them all himself ? once doing them all he can then set a min standard right thought out the uk as we all know each training corse is different
when you join does he do the same as the insurance part checking up ect ect ??? also if new ways and new chems hit the market and the members don't use or do it in the trained manner are they thrown out ?
back to the customers
if a tacca member smashes a t.v. ect ect and there insurance doesn't pay out , does he jump in his van with a roll of cash and weighs the customer in ? if not why not ? where the guaranty of the work menship then ? wheres the saftey net for the pubic ? if he or the tacca is not covering every job with real hard cash where the benefit to the pubic ? there isn't one
so if theres no guaranty of work , no quaranty of replacement of damage or death , no quaranty on training sounds a great get up to me theres no way he can carry on working and set a thing like this up
just a few points I would like answering you say you don't mind questions ect ect there a few for you
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as much as Susan's posts get right on my b00bs, I would actually miss her rants and the steaming pile of crap that she talks.
I find it highly entertaining. Who needs soap operas ;D Same goes for a few other posters. They talk utter shyte but it makes compelling reading.
So please stay and keep posting, ya mental crazy riots!
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Susan, every piont you've made could apply to every trade assoation in existance
Can you name another trade association that check its member has insurance and road tax on thier vehicles? Or rings their insurance company every month to check its members have not lapsed on a payment?
What if a A member damages a tv you ask .....
what if he was a gas engineer or an Arial erector, or a home carer would thier association pop round with a big wad of cash and give you your £1400?.....No chance!!
you should say that when getting the electric fit on our farm the sub contractor damaged one of our cars and the person that did the damage was not to forward in saying sorry , so after I few phone calls a nice gent from the electric borad turns up to see what happened and with so bringing a copy of the sub contractors insureance ect ect
in the end we didn't go thought the insureance and the owner of the sub contractor pay cash to stop the claim dead lucky for him
also working for dhl , city link and many other top companys we had to give permission to our insurance company for the manger to ring any time to check up on polices ect ect let alone handing in a photo copy of the tax and mot every time they expaired on a van or truck also they wanted a copy of the 6 week checks on the trucks
as they didn't want any come back on themselves
this is what I am saying mike there was pages and pages of how good the tacca was going to be , so please tell me ways all the goodness ? what makes them diffent from the ncca ?? whats in it for the customer ?? I mean the customer is the most important thing surely ??
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What you have said above is correct Susan for large blue chip companies, they all cover their arses.
I am in the AA, if I had bumped into your car would you have phoned them, or would it of been upto my insurance to pay you out.
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Ive said it at the start of TACCA amd Ill say it again , 6 or so motivated and clued up individuals , yes inc Mr D. West need to campaign, go to the AGM of the NCCA and get voted onto the board , and change what is already there , making the established credible association work for the industry.
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What you have said above is correct Susan for large blue chip companies, they all cover their arses.
I am in the AA, if I had bumped into your car would you have phoned them, or would it of been upto my insurance to pay you out.
your not getting the point i
many many people on here were largeing this tacca up saying it was going to be different then the rest , it was going to be this , it was going to be that , where ?????
some were even saying it could be the end of the ncca , all I am asking is show me where all this hot air talk as lead , ive asked a few questions on a fourm to which theres be no answers to why ???
because there close to the mark and like the other channel when asking a question that close to the mark they run and hide and surround themselves with yes men
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i don't run and hide Susan, there is a phone number on the TACCA site, your quite welcome to ring me and i'll try my very best to answer any questions you have, very busy but friday i'm home making an upholstery cleaning video so if you do decide to call then that would be a good time for me. i get a lot of calls and always try my best to help, or you could come along to the TACCA training day in June and witness a fantastic day with like minded people enjoying themselves and ask me all the questions you want while enjoying one of the best hog roasts in the country. :)
What i refuse to do is get into arguments and debates on here, i have a very busy life with my business, TACCA, 4 kids and a wife to look after so forgive me if i don't post much lately. them days are long gone.
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What irks the sh-t out of me on this issue is that regardless of what you think of TACCA, every right thinking person should be humble enough to take their hat off to Derek and Sian for the sheer amount of effort they have put into it. If you don't like TACCA, fine, don't join, but please - shut up and show some respect.
Simon
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all I am asking is show me where all this hot air talk as lead
There didn't seem to me to be a lot of hot air - they just said they wanted to form a group that would advertise direct to the public, which the NCCA aren't good at, whatever else they do.
Where it's lead is to some excellent training days, at which I've learnt more than the courses I've been on, and a good website. No-one ever expected an organisation that would insure all its members. Considering I'm not paying anything to benefit from this, i'm happy with the organisation.
In time, I would like to see TACCA get choosier about who gets to be a member, and I would like to see it do more advertising to the public.
Of course, Susan doesn't need to learn anything from anyone outside her own business - if she started that she'd lose all the confidence in herself that we all find so amusing.
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"In time, I would like to see TACCA get choosier about who gets to be a member"
Considering it's the "Approved Carpet Cleaning Association" that's a strange thing to say.
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Considering it's the "Approved Carpet Cleaning Association" that's a strange thing to say.
Not to me - it's a young organisation and it was fairly easy to become "approved" in the early days, and fair enough - just that with time I would like to see (even) higher standards applied - I'm open-minded about what, in detail, those standards are.
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But how can you get higher standards when you don't even know the people your approving, or their quality of work, or their training, or their insurance etc.
People at the moment are basically approving themselves insomuch that they can tell Derek pretty much what they want and he as to decide whether they are kosher or not.
It's not really approval by association is it?
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I have read this topic with little interest to be honest, just for the sake of reading it and observe whats been said ::)roll from the very beginning i have never really considered joining, no specific reason nothing against Derick or its members, just my choice .
Any way here is my opinion for what its worth, I see it as a good thing, I do see it benefiting some members, I can see why c/c want to join, after all its another logo on the van and in time it may well be a recognised organisation ( early days ) .
Having said that, in the past I have seen posts where members have replied to enquiries re. carpet cleaning jobs, quoting ( contact a tacca member ) , that pi*ses me off a little as if they are implying nobody else is
capable ??? as for max,s comments
"Not to me - it's a young organisation and it was fairly easy to become "approved" in the early days, and fair enough - just that with time I would like to see (even) higher standards applied - I'm open-minded about what, in detail, those standards are¬
What will all the c/c who have joined do then ?
Will they be vetted again ? just a though .
Geoff.
ps not having a go at tacca, I wish them look ,I even have derrick as a friend on f.b
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TACCA is not elitist. we just want decent cleaners to join who can offer all types of cleaning. bit of training, half decent set up that covers all forms of cleaning and insurance. not much to ask, and before you say it, this doesn't mean that if you don't make criteria your no good, far from it in a lot of cases, but unfortunately, we have to have a basic rule of joining. if we let the odd one in who doesn't make criteria then it would just make a mockery of having criteria in the first place, i never set out to make it hard to join, it was all about finding guys that wanted to join and fitted the criteria. if guys want a superior association then there's nothing stopping someone doing that. i would join if i passed criteria, as long as it was free ;D if i didn't pass criteria i wouldnt come on here and spit me dummy, i'd just get on with running my business.
all i'm trying to do is build a good foundation for TACCA so that when a committee takes over they have good solid ground to take it to the next level and onto to be a fully recognised association. and yes i would like to retire from it. it takes a lot of my time and i think i have better things to do. some great guys out there, far more suited than me to take it to a fully blown well run association. yes its not brilliantly run at the moment but i think on a shoe string, i'm not doing to bad even though i say so myself. ;D
if you want to diss it then fine, go for it, i aint got time to argue with you, thats why i dont reply on here, its your opinion and i respect that, even though i find it confusing why anyone would waste there time dissing something they have no interest in. ???
I will crack on with slowly but surely getting our members work and hopefully dominating google. the next training day should raise some money to push for that.
Thats all i have to say on the matter, i wont be responding to any more questions on here about TACCA, got far to much to do with the change of my company name and new approach to marketing. but if you want to chat my details are everywhere so i'm not hiding, always got time for a chinwag. as long as its not abusive.
last night i negotiated a great deal on a Hog roast for the TACCA training day. Crackling, apple sauce, coleslaw, buttered potatoes and a Hog roasted for 24 hours so its falling off the bone. come to the TACCA day and have a chat with me. food doesn't get better than a hog roast. Its open to none members as well so see you all there, gonna be a great weekend. :)
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Simon - nail - head
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all i'm trying to do is build a good foundation for TACCA so that when a committee takes over they have good solid ground to take it to the next level and onto to be a fully recognised association. and yes i would like to retire from it. it takes a lot of my time and i think i have better things to do
I'm mistified.........why try to create something and then say '' It takes a lot of my time and I think I have better things to do'' ?
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even though i find it confusing why anyone would waste there time dissing something they have no interest in. Huh
To settle your confusion , because there are good carpet cleaners who do not wish to join , and who do not fit YOUR criteria.
As well as cleaning carpets , a good carpet cleaner must.
Be on time , settle problems fast , price fairly, not break stuff in buildings , be smart , be polite , explain what is being done and why if needed , and many more things .
One could join TACCA and possess few of these qualities
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I think what Derek meant is that his time spent on TACCA would be better spent on his own business.
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Wonderful to come on here for the first time in many many months and find almost nothing has changed.
I've followed Susan's post since day one and have to say ...........
It's highly unlikely there is anyone on here who has achieved anything like her family's success from carpet cleaning.
As we all know there thinkers / dreamers and there are do'ers with the latter taking the spoils while the dreamers constantly miss the boat .
Great to here of your continuing success Susan and loving your attitude.
Robert m
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Hi Robert, hope you're well
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As we all know there thinkers / dreamers and there are do'ers with the latter taking the spoils while the dreamers constantly miss the boat .
Well said Robert. That sums up Derek and his work with TACCA perfectly. Definitely a doer.
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Well I've just received £100 off my checkatrade membership because I'm a TACCA member, now I'm probably still guessing that the high principled people having a pop at TACCA would still turn their nose up at £100 on principles. Oh well.
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Wonderful to come on here for the first time in many many months and find almost nothing has changed.
I've followed Susan's post since day one and have to say ...........
It's highly unlikely there is anyone on here who has achieved anything like her family's success from carpet cleaning.
As we all know there thinkers / dreamers and there are do'ers with the latter taking the spoils while the dreamers constantly miss the boat .
Great to here of your continuing success Susan and loving your attitude.
This is her 3rd Generation success given by her family.
how can you applaud this.
built by ancestors, not by her. SHES DONE NOTHING APART FROM TAKE THE HELM AND KEEP THE SHIP STEADY.
Its a ready made business. WOW she did well
Robert m
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Robert is another one that belongs on the funny bus.
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Paul
I think you might find that Susan Dean's business moved on dramatically a couple of years ago when she took on board the advice of a couple of highly successful carpet cleaners who were prolific posters on here
I've unfortunately cleaned my last carpet and only briefly visit forums out of curiosity.
Best wishes.
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Bought my early bird ticket so saved a tenner :D
looking forward to this year, a lot off good things going on.
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Really looking forward to this on holiday last year so could not make it some top trainers on the day say what you like about TACCA but it's what you take from it that counts has made me over £400 in work so I can't knock it.
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I hardly post on this forum anymore but feel i should say a few words about TACCA...
Since i joined TACCA it has introduced me to a bunch of people who i now call friends, we are all connected on Facebook and it has worked out good.
The TACCA website is actually a great idea... punch in your postcode and find a carpet cleaner local to you, its a brilliant way to locate someone. Does TACCA generate business for me? well... yes it has struck gold on a few occasions, out of the blue bookings which have been good jobs.
Remember Derek has created this out of nothing, financed the whole project with money made from cleaning carpets, whether you agree with TACCA's membership terms and conditions or not... its a great achievement... Yes things need to be fine tuned but then nothing is perfect.
The TACCA event is not what i would call a training day as such, you have a handful of experts who demonstrate their skills whether that's restoring leather or cleaning rugs and they do this for FREE. I found last years event inspiring and the ability to network with like minded people is more than worth the trip!
Forget the membership joining criteria for just a moment and think about taking a few days off to attend the TACCA event weekend, last year there was a charity auction after the event which raised money for a very worthy kids charity.
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Bought my early bird ticket so saved a tenner :D
looking forward to this year, a lot off good things going on.
seemingly the early bird price ends 23.59pm tomorrow night,
so if your a tight git northerner like me, ;D get it bought quick and save a tenner :)
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And me ;D
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Such a great deal I've bought two ;D
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I always look forward to meeting and talking to knowledgeable people in the industry. It is always however the people who think they know it all that actually know the least.
Peter
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Can somebody bring a jaguar with them and run it along side a truckmount at 50ft so we can settle the argument once and for all that theres no difference over short hose runs dont no if there is or not but would like to no cheers.
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Can somebody bring a jaguar with them and run it along side a truckmount at 50ft so we can settle the argument once and for all that theres no difference over short hose runs dont no if there is or not but would like to no cheers.
Thats already being settled with a lift gauge ... twin 6.6 about 9hg .... truckmount has a lot more .
Compare the Mytee Escape perhaps ... but not a twinvac .
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Prochem give 296 cfm for the endeviour and 310 cfm for the
blazer so the only real difference there would be the lift
from the blower being more than the 6.6s
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Prochem give 296 cfm for the endeviour and 310 cfm for the
blazer so the only real difference there would be the lift
from the blower being more than the 6.6s
Prochem list 279cfm for the Endeavor on the catalogue i read ... thats about the same as steembrite measured for a twin 6.6.
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The big difference is that electric vac pumps work centrifugally, so at zero airflow there's almost zero vac, whereas "proper" blowers are positive displacement, and always move the same CFM, just bleeding in the air that won't come through the wand via a relief valve, and at a constant 11" Hg.
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The big difference is that electric vac pumps work centrifugally, so at zero airflow there's almost zero vac, whereas "proper" blowers are positive displacement, and always move the same CFM, just bleeding in the air that won't come through the wand via a relief valve, and at a constant 11" Hg.
Im trying to think through what you said ... what are you calling ' vac ' suction ?
at zero airflow there is full suction with the electric motor ... but no air flow .
if the wand is locked down , then there is no airflow through the wand with both the PD or the electric source ... so nothing moves from the wand . Zero airflow does not apply in carpet cleaning generally though . ???
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Last year we were going to have a little collection of porty's on demo at the TAACA event, sadly we ran out of time.
I think Prochem's flagship portable is massively over priced for what it is when compared to other machines.
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Prochem charge more because it doesn't really sell direct it uses retailers to do the selling and they need their profit, not sure what a retailer gets % on a machine so realistically it's the price of the machine and a % for the retailer added on.
Shaun
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Last year we were going to have a little collection of porty's on demo at the TAACA event, sadly we ran out of time.
I think Prochem's flagship portable is massively over priced for what it is when compared to other machines.
Its currently unavailable whicle they sort out some issues with 6.6s.
From what I know its common for these motors to fail when paired.
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not sure what a retailer gets % on a machine
Double what we get on TMs
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Last year we were going to have a little collection of porty's on demo at the TAACA event, sadly we ran out of time.
I think Prochem's flagship portable is massively over priced for what it is when compared to other machines.
Its currently unavailable whicle they sort out some issues with 6.6s.
From what I know its common for these motors to fail when paired.
I figured that would be sorted out by now ! :o
Interestedly u never hear of failing in the USA , although they are used in series in most of the USA machines , that might make a difference ...
The whole 6.6 thing never really took off i the states and i see Cross American has now pretty much abandoned them for the 8.4 version in the USA Jaguar.
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I knew that Chris at alltec made modifications to the motors or configuration I think the 8.6's are coming even if from a marketing angle.
Shaun
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I knew that Chris at alltec made modifications to the motors or configuration I think the 8.6's are coming even if from a marketing angle.
Shaun
Yes a good motor im sure ... if two can be used on one cord with a pump like Extracta then they have a good future here ... still long time coming ,they must be out over two years now ... cost is still high for the 240v . I'd say they work best in series . Extracta seen to have gone that route .
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And its the cost which then kind of forces you to consider the new breed of 5.7 motors which Alltec and Ashbys are using for their series machines.
So far (touch wood) my machines have been fine.
Anyway... might still be up for bringing a machine or two to the TACCA event, Are you joining us this year John?
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And its the cost which then kind of forces you to consider the new breed of 5.7 motors which Alltec and Ashbys are using for their series machines.
So far (touch wood) my machines have been fine.
Anyway... might still be up for bringing a machine or two to the TACCA event, Are you joining us this year John?
This is the lowest price iv seen for 240v ... but they dont ship to outside the US , so would have to send to post forwarding company ... I think it was about $100 to ship two but i'd have to look it up again ... adding tax you could have them 200- 250 not bad , must look into it more .
http://www.zorotools.com/g/00008577/k-122178-18/
Id expect you'd see no lift increase over you Enforcer three stage , perhaps even a small decrease but you would gain 20- 30 perhaps more cfm at a guess , which might be significant in series .
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When and where is the TACCA Day being held this year?
Is it ticket only, or can you pay on the day?
Steve
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All the info here Steve
http://www.tacca.co.uk/article/tacca-2014-training-day-open-saturday-june-7th-2014/
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Excellent. :)
Thanks Dan.
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Derek
Would you like a pressure washing van there?
Rob ;D
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Not sure yet rob, its a numbers game and i have to get the balance right, we've got new trainers this year, Derek Bolton, Julie Roberts, terry Guilford, Gavin finch, Judy bass and Paul Pearce, and then we have last years trainers John kelly, Mike Philbin, Jamie Pearson, Dave Althomstone Richard Sudall. So their is a lot going on. If we sell enough tickets then who knows, certainly not ruled it out as yet.
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Need to make it 2 days then could not possibly fit all that in and eat a hog in day ;D