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Title: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 16, 2014, 02:52:10 pm
hi hope you can help,i have an indian sandstone patio at my house,that gets green algae on it,is there a product i can put on the algae that will kill it ? to make removal easier.
i have a small diy pressure washer that does remove it but it takes for ever.
any help would be much appreciated.
ps im a window cleaner.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: chris scott on January 16, 2014, 05:50:25 pm
http://www.algoclear.com/
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on January 16, 2014, 06:45:25 pm
Hypo
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Neil Jones on January 16, 2014, 07:05:20 pm
Hypooooooooooo!!!!
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 16, 2014, 08:26:21 pm
3:1 hypo mix will clean and rid you of the algae and lichen stains/spot if you have them, I sure there are threads along these lines of how to do this on the general cleaning section of the forum.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on January 16, 2014, 10:26:11 pm
Hi Colin, If its just algae you want to remove we can supply you with a safe product that you dilute into a sprayer to dose the areas covered in algae, then just wait for a day or two and the algae will be gone and no need to power wash the area, ( thats provided its just algae bloom we are talking about here) send me an email if you require further info.    Regards  Tadgh
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 16, 2014, 10:43:52 pm
Hi Colin, If its just algae you want to remove we can supply you with a safe product that you dilute into a sprayer to dose the areas covered in algae, then just wait for a day or two and the algae will be gone and no need to power wash the area, ( thats provided its just algae bloom we are talking about here) send me an email if you require further info.    Regards  Tadgh

Tadgh,
Don't take this the wrong way, but most people that want the patios etc cleaning, don't want to wait a couple of days to see results, they want now, as in the day you come in to clean.
All this eco stuff is fine, but I'd go out of business if we cleaned this way as results need to be  immediate which customers want, bit like taking your car to be cleaned, car cleaning place says give it a couple of day after I have sprayed it with this solution and it will be clean, NO I want it clean today thank you. See my point?
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Tadgh O Shea on January 16, 2014, 11:35:05 pm
Hi Roger, your fine i wont take it the wrong way, but Colin is a fellow CIU member and if he wants to maintain his indian sandstone there are other solutions than having to use Hypo based products which i am sure you will agree are not the safest products to be using, the product i was referring to is a maintenance product and once sprayed will keep algae at bay for six months, when it can be sprayed again to keep it at bay for another six months and so on. this is only a suggestion under no obligation and Roger i understand why you would not want your clients to know about these types of products.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 06:59:09 am
http://www.algoclear.com/
thanks will take a look
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 07:00:23 am
Hypo
what is the full name,where can I buy it,many thanks
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 07:01:20 am
Hypooooooooooo!!!!
what is the full name,where can I buy ? Many thanks
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 07:02:06 am
3:1 hypo mix will clean and rid you of the algae and lichen stains/spot if you have them, I sure there are threads along these lines of how to do this on the general cleaning section of the forum.

ok many thanks
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: chris scott on January 17, 2014, 07:13:17 am
Sodium hypochlorite
Highly corrosive
Will burn holes in your clothes,kill you grass,destroy your plants,impregnate your wife with other mens children,run up a bill on your credit card
If there is any sort of acid traces around will give off chlorine gas.
Short-term ingestion may cause burns to the mouth and throat, and sickness
Short-term inhalation may cause irritation of eyes and nose, sore throat, cough, chest
tightness, headache and confusion .
 ;D ;D ;D

Buy it here it's cheap
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hypochlorite-14-15-w-w-5-Litre-5L-/130813591207?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e7518fea7
 
If you are a business and you are using it you are open to prosecution as it is not licenced for the control of Mosses etc By the HSE.
Then there are the environmental issues to contend with....
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 08:35:43 am
Sodium hypochlorite
Highly corrosive
Will burn holes in your clothes,kill you grass,destroy your plants,impregnate your wife with other mens children,run up a bill on your credit card
If there is any sort of acid traces around will give off chlorine gas.
Short-term ingestion may cause burns to the mouth and throat, and sickness
Short-term inhalation may cause irritation of eyes and nose, sore throat, cough, chest
tightness, headache and confusion .
 ;D ;D ;D

Buy it here it's cheap
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hypochlorite-14-15-w-w-5-Litre-5L-/130813591207?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e7518fea7
 
If you are a business and you are using it you are open to prosecution as it is not licenced for the control of Mosses etc By the HSE.
Then there are the environmental issues to contend with....

Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 08:41:17 am
Sodium hypochlorite
Highly corrosive
Will burn holes in your clothes,kill you grass,destroy your plants,impregnate your wife with other mens children,run up a bill on your credit card
If there is any sort of acid traces around will give off chlorine gas.
Short-term ingestion may cause burns to the mouth and throat, and sickness
Short-term inhalation may cause irritation of eyes and nose, sore throat, cough, chest
tightness, headache and confusion .
 ;D ;D ;D
  Many thanks for your help,ref fumes will one of those DIY White fabric masks ,be any good or do I need something more substantial

Buy it here it's cheap
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hypochlorite-14-15-w-w-5-Litre-5L-/130813591207?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e7518fea7
 
If you are a business and you are using it you are open to prosecution as it is not licenced for the control of Mosses etc By the HSE.
Then there are the environmental issues to contend with....

Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Simon@Pristine Pathways on January 17, 2014, 08:55:32 am
I use hypo all the time no problem quick cheap easy and instant results. Dont let chis put u off he is just trying to push algoclear just read his posts.
Phone me if you want.
Simon
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 17, 2014, 09:16:55 am
Hi Roger, your fine i wont take it the wrong way, but Colin is a fellow CIU member and if he wants to maintain his indian sandstone there are other solutions than having to use Hypo based products which i am sure you will agree are not the safest products to be using, the product i was referring to is a maintenance product and once sprayed will keep algae at bay for six months, when it can be sprayed again to keep it at bay for another six months and so on. this is only a suggestion under no obligation and Roger i understand why you would not want your clients to know about these types of products.

As with any chemical only dangerous in the wrong hands and not used correctly do you not agree.
Yes Hypo is corrosive and can do a lot of damage, but only if not used properly.
These products you spray on and walk away from can be seen in most Sunday mags that come with your Sunday papers, so no secret really.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Neil Jones on January 17, 2014, 01:19:53 pm
I believe Lee at Blastaway has it on his cereal in the morning. Does him no harm, although I believe it causes him to use the c word at random time :)
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: BDCS on January 17, 2014, 03:08:36 pm
It was prescribed to cure his tourettes but evidently it never worked.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 17, 2014, 03:41:03 pm
I use hypo all the time no problem quick cheap easy and instant results. Dont let chis put u off he is just trying to push algoclear just read his posts.
Phone me if you want.
Simon
many thanks
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: chris scott on January 17, 2014, 04:02:53 pm
I use hypo all the time no problem quick cheap easy and instant results. Dont let chis put u off he is just trying to push algoclear just read his posts.
Phone me if you want.
Simon
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Just giving him the easy/safer option. Spray it on ,walk away.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on January 17, 2014, 07:37:56 pm
http://www.algoclear.com/

Chris can you email me cleandry@hotmail.co.uk with whats needed and prices to be setup enough to offer this service.

Cheers Phil.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: SmartSeal on January 21, 2014, 01:05:47 pm
Hi Colin,

Any biocide, fungicidal type product will kill off the algae and making cleaning easier. It is not a good idea to reguarly pressure wash any kind of paving as this is the equivalent to accelerated weathering. Pressure washing leads to the stone becoming more porous and more susceptible to algae, lichen growth etc.

The best thing to do is properly clean it once, then seal it with a good quality patio sealer. The sealer will greatly extend the time it takes the algae to form and make future removal far easier.

Regards,
Nigel Blake
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 30, 2014, 03:57:55 pm
Hi Colin,

Any biocide, fungicidal type product will kill off the algae and making cleaning easier. It is not a good idea to reguarly pressure wash any kind of paving as this is the equivalent to accelerated weathering. Pressure washing leads to the stone becoming more porous and more susceptible to algae, lichen growth etc.

The best thing to do is properly clean it once, then seal it with a good quality patio sealer. The sealer will greatly extend the time it takes the algae to form and make future removal far easier.

Regards,
Nigel Blake
thanks for that the patio is approx 60 sq m I've looked at sealers but they all appear to be expensive,what is the best sealer for Indian sand stone,and how much.
Re sealing some people say don't seal it,what's the way to go ,seal or not to seal
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Kev Martin on January 30, 2014, 07:22:48 pm
Hi Colin,

Any biocide, fungicidal type product will kill off the algae and making cleaning easier. It is not a good idea to reguarly pressure wash any kind of paving as this is the equivalent to accelerated weathering. Pressure washing leads to the stone becoming more porous and more susceptible to algae, lichen growth etc.

The best thing to do is properly clean it once, then seal it with a good quality patio sealer. The sealer will greatly extend the time it takes the algae to form and make future removal far easier.

Regards,
Nigel Blake
thanks for that the patio is approx 60 sq m I've looked at sealers but they all appear to be expensive,what is the best sealer for Indian sand stone,and how much.
Re sealing some people say don't seal it,what's the way to go ,seal or not to seal

Yes good quality sealer is exspensive but you get what you pay for and you get good coverage as well.  Sandstone definately needs sealing IMO

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on January 30, 2014, 07:45:32 pm
Hi Colin,

Any biocide, fungicidal type product will kill off the algae and making cleaning easier. It is not a good idea to reguarly pressure wash any kind of paving as this is the equivalent to accelerated weathering. Pressure washing leads to the stone becoming more porous and more susceptible to algae, lichen growth etc.

The best thing to do is properly clean it once, then seal it with a good quality patio sealer. The sealer will greatly extend the time it takes the algae to form and make future removal far easier.

Regards,
Nigel Blake
thanks for that the patio is approx 60 sq m I've looked at sealers but they all appear to be expensive,what is the best sealer for Indian sand stone,and how much.
Re sealing some people say don't seal it,what's the way to go ,seal or not to seal

Yes good quality sealer is exspensive but you get what you pay for and you get good coverage as well.  Sandstone definately needs sealing IMO

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
thanks for your reply,what is the best sealer for sandstone ? Where do I buy it and how much will I need for 69 Sam thanks again
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Kev Martin on January 31, 2014, 08:01:48 am
I take it or assume 69 sam means 69M2? 

Do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking exactly the same?

Or do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking enhanced bringing out all the features etc?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on February 16, 2014, 02:33:02 pm
I take it or assume 69 sam means 69M2? 

Do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking exactly the same?

Or do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking enhanced bringing out all the features etc?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
hi yes 69 sq m I don't know anything about sealers,just thought if I seal it cleaning wii be easier,am I correct in thinking that ?
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: Kev Martin on February 23, 2014, 10:21:00 am
I take it or assume 69 sam means 69M2? 

Do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking exactly the same?

Or do you want a penetrating sealer that leaves it looking enhanced bringing out all the features etc?

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
hi yes 69 sq m I don't know anything about sealers,just thought if I seal it cleaning wii be easier,am I correct in thinking that ?


Here are coverage rates

Aqua mix sealers choice gold 28-93m2/3.78L this for all tiles will not alter the colour at all
Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal 46-140m2/3.78l enhancing sealer only really for natural stone but does work in some other situatios
Aqua mix ultra solv 37-140m2/3.78L solvent based all tiles will not alter colour
Aqua mix penetrating sealer 28-93m2/3.78l water based economy sealer natural stone use
Aqua mix pro-solv 28-140m2/3.78l solvent based economy sealer use of all tiles

I will add that the coverage on the sealers are well under estimated
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: chris scott on February 23, 2014, 10:38:24 am
Don't put a solvent sealer on your sandstone . Use a waterbased impregnating one..that ideally should be moisture permeable.
I believe Kevin Martin has a safer more cost effective way of keeping Indian sandstone looking good.
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on March 19, 2014, 08:55:31 pm
Thanks for all the help and advice,I look forward to a clean patio and dead grass,going to order.
Thanks again
Title: Re: indian sandstone help reqd
Post by: colin bird on September 08, 2014, 09:30:41 pm
I use hypo all the time no problem quick cheap easy and instant results. Dont let chis put u off he is just trying to push algoclear just read his posts.
Phone me if you want.
Simon
many thanks
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