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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: John Klucznik on January 15, 2014, 03:20:43 pm
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Fisrtly I think in the right situation, with the right carpet, then encap with a pad is acceptable.
It is just one of the tools we would use, out of a vast amount of machines available.
Does it clean as well as an all singing and dancing top of the range TM, again depends on what you are cleaning.
It is a great method for low profile commercial carpeting, is quick and cheap to use, which generally is what the client requires. I have used it on some domestics, but I will still fire up the TM for my 1st choice.
Does a pad spinning at 150-200rpm suck out as much from the base of the carpet, which generally is where a lot of soils are hidden, as a vacuum from a TM blower ? not in my eyes.
Yes you can put a pad over a freshly wet cleaned carpet and the pad will turn greyish, but personally I often use a pad after anyway, leaving it dry and deep cleaned.
I am not for or against encap, I just think we all need all of the tools of the trade to perform a wide scope of works
Andrew
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Initially bonnet was made for maintenance cleaning. As chemistry and pads improve and for economic reasons that range of its use has been stretched. Its funny, extraction will in many cases remove more soil by weight but in other cases the rotary with its agitation can yield a better actual appearance. Im glad we have both.
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The most important words in that statement is the crux of Encap cleaning and is always quoted as a benefit of the system
'For economic reasons' when did something get built for economic reasons that also offer quality results ? Unfortunately as soon as something is built to a service a price then something else has to suffer.
You want to make good money by cleaning vast areas at minuscule square2 prices the use Encap but don't kid yourselves that you are maintaining quality
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'For economic reasons' when did something get built for economic reasons that also offer quality results ?
You want to make good money by cleaning vast areas at minuscule square2 prices the use Encap but don't kid yourselves that you are maintaining quality
The first statement you misunderstand. What I meant is some people especially those who are new and can afford a 50 or 100,000 thousand dollar truckmount use it to get started and try to use it for everything.
So I guess when you/they vacuum quality of the carpets appearance and longevity isn't maintained? So if you go a step further and remove oily binders and soils stuck to them like in the above pics you have done a dis service? This is maintaining and that is the purpose of the low moisture system.
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Thanks for the info John Klucznik, having used a TM for the last 10 years I have been been using encap low moisture cleaning more and more over the last 6 months and have been surprised and impressed with the results. Like your site and the info on there.
David
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It works for us, and the custys love it... what more can one say. The proof is in the pudding :-)
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I love pudding ;D
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The most important words in that statement is the crux of Encap cleaning and is always quoted as a benefit of the system
'For economic reasons' when did something get built for economic reasons that also offer quality results ? Unfortunately as soon as something is built to a service a price then something else has to suffer.
You want to make good money by cleaning vast areas at minuscule square2 prices the use Encap but don't kid yourselves that you are maintaining quality
Quite right Mike are we cleaning technicians or Cleaning Illusionists. At the end of the day if the client is happy and we are rewarded for the work done then everyone is happy.
David
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Hi Guys
It makes a big difference in my view if we are dealing with grease/ general dirt which might occur typically in an industrial setting and protein based food/drink stains typical in a restaurant.
In the former I have found bonneting or encap gives a good finish and removes an acceptable amount of soiling. However having tried it in a bar/restaurant situation I had to fire up the TM to get an acceptable result.
The suggestion that encap doesn't require a dwell is likely to lead to an inferior job as any dwell will loosen the dirt and make it easier to remove.
Another area where extraction Is far better is where there are odour problems and urine/blood/ faecal contamination which we wouldn't want to spread around.
Horses for course and I will often use a heated bonnet to loosen soiling and a dry bonnet to improve finish.
Cheers
Doug
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I think that the pros will understand that there is not one system that will suit every eventuality and if you want to be honest talking and offer you customers the best options you are either going to have to market to specific customers, equip yourself with the tools that you need for each situation or turn away work.
I personally find it hard to sell something if I know that there is a better solution, I need to believe in what I am selling to somebody.
Or you could just run an enterprise operation and not give a monkeys.
Peter
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I agree, we don't have a system that fits perfectly everywhere. When you say better you may be thinking of the absolute, maximum ability to remove soil by weight? The customer however might perceive "better" by other variables such as price or dry time or re soiling or even fragrance.
So in the cases where the carpet is not totally trashed the option of choice becomes one that make the cleaner look good for having the ability to offer his customer a choice.
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Equip yourself to fulfil your customers requirements then?
Peter