Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Deb1234 on January 12, 2014, 01:58:42 pm
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I carry out End Of Tenancy cleans, but I'd like to know how long it takes others to clean a house, without an oven clean.
With that in mind, how long does it take you to do a:-
2 Bed House
3 Bed House
4 Bed House
Thanks for your help.
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How long does it take you?
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How long does it take you?
Well that's the thing, I am not sure if I am 'over' cleaning. Looking at some of the info on here. It takes me about 3hrs to do a 2bed, and about 4hrs to do a 4bed (given that there's usually 2 washrooms & a small wc). Does this sound about right?
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if your on your own then that's seems about right
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Surely it all depends on the degree of soiling, if they were students you are lucky to get the kitchen clean in 2 hours. If you work to a standard checklist and have viewed the property then you may be able to estimate the time. I would take about those times to clean the carpets alone before you start on the rest
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Surely it all depends on the degree of soiling, if they were students you are lucky to get the kitchen clean in 2 hours. If you work to a standard checklist and have viewed the property then you may be able to estimate the time. I would take about those times to clean the carpets alone before you start on the rest
Thanks for your help. I don't do the carpets, it's just cleaning (& oven if needed) :-)
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Hello!
How much to charge for a standard 2,3bed?
It had always taken me longer then three hours, five , six more likely.
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Again it all depends on the state of it but I don't think you are far off. I estimate the time and charge @ £12.50 / hour - if they don't like my price there are plenty of immigrants only too willing to do it to supplement their benefits
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Hey BDCS
Is that with paying staff to do the cleaning?
I am in the process of setting up this side of the business too but I want to have staff doing the actual clean. I'm busy enough with carpets and upholstery.
Is it possible to have self employed staff?
The thing is I wont be able to guarantee them a set amount of hours at the beginning. Till I have enough work. Pay I pay them even when there is nowt on? :-\ The answer is obvious (unless they are self employed) but would like your advice.
cheers
tony
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The cleaning lady cleans our house and communal jobs amongst several others (her work) and she is self employed, she supplies her own "normal gear". She is pleased when we find her extra hours but if she can't do them or needs some help then I send the missus and I may send myself kicking and moaning. I do the carpets and then look to slide away quietly ;) I don't advertise this work its just word of mouth for existing customers
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ah I see. That's the ideal situation for you then.
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Carpet Dawg ring me tomo if you want, I've got 6 who do cleaning for me. Nothing major but if you want to know anything then give me a shout.
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Cheers Neil. I'll take you up on your offer. Probably call you Wednesday or Thursday if that's ok.
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Fine mate, Thur afternoon better
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Again it all depends on the state of it but I don't think you are far off. I estimate the time and charge @ £12.50 / hour - if they don't like my price there are plenty of immigrants only too willing to do it to supplement their benefits
This Daily Mail bile, really gets me. I'm the son of immigrants, and I can remember your grand parents coming out with similar racist comments.
Most of the immigrants have come here to work and do so very well. The reason that they're here is that so many lazy British would sooner stay in bed than do a days work. I've employed these guys in the past and they normally do the work of 2 British workers, turn up on time and don't spend half the day smoking and drinking instant coffee, while complaining.
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Each to their own - will the moderators remove your post for being racist against us poor hard working Brits. Immigrant pulls the race card - whats new
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Get with the program "I'm the son of immigrants." I am British (born and bred)I therefore believe I'm allowed to speak about my own nationality without it being classed as racist. The same as Nick Clegg, Ed Miliband and Attila the Hun, select whichever you feel reflects your views.
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Ah I've got it - your a Brit that sits around drinking instant coffee complaining ? Or are you happy to be undercut by immigrants who don't choose to play by the rules ?
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Such an emotive issue, immigration. The last research conducted by the DWP analysing the percentage of immigrants who claim benefits put it at around 6% (300 000ish), that figure to include everyone in the UK who receives some form of benefit. And that's a cumulative figure which includes people who came here in the 1970s and who have since become British citizens.
Radio 4 had an 'ask the expert' last week who was asked to reconcile the twin claims of one minister who stated that immigrants are worth about £70bn to our economy against an opponent who claimed that they cost the country money. Fairly involved answer he gave but the take home opinion was that there are no credible arguments to be made which would support the statement that immigration is a cost to the UK and that the net worth stated was about 10 times more than reality.
All that said, if you live in any part of the UK where dependent immigrants are disproportionately represented, it's no consolation to know that the country as a whole benefits. Easy for people like me who live in areas where the primary schools don't have any children who don't know English and where council service budgets aren't stretched by the need to employ interpreters for residents. I absolutely don't condone racism or bigotry but I won't pretend that I don't understand why there are sections of the community who are resentful.
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I have my views and I think you may be able to guess what they are. Immigration is only a small issue and obviously being in Dover we get a fair amount - I resent them if they go in uninsured, below the minimum wage and swerve the regulations. Many come here and work - with a right but they don't have to pay a mortgage and send money home which is no benefit to the UK. They run round on foreign plates and run off when they smash your car.
The underlying issue is the system which is pushed by the doo gooders - The benefits system does not encourage "those lazy British workers" into work, the gap between benefits and work must be widened, Chris and his mates should not be able to afford special brew, a tv, a car, and certainly not fAgs.
The British government will pay benefits into any EEC bank account and there are couches turn up to sign on - from the docks and get back on the coach to go home.
The day we get a government who will deal with the underlying issues rather than just fiddling expenses - they need to ruffle a few feathers and create a system where true Brits find it better to work than claim and employers don't find it cheaper to employ your favoured migrants then we may all be better off.
If the EEc is equal then why do the smokies risk their life to get into the UK from France.
Accuse me of being a racist if you must but I just want a level playing field in business
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Think about it for a moment, a man (woman) that has traveled halfway around the world, risked their life to get here....... to collect dole? Come on does that make sense? These people in the main are get up and doers, much like ourselves, (on this forum) they're not waiting for fate to deal them a fair hand, they're doing something about it. Britain, indeed any forward looking country, needs people like them.
There are rogue immigrants we all know that, but just like the coffee drinking, complaining, lazy dole living Brits, they represent a very small number of total.
Most come here to build a better life for their families and themselves in doing so they also benefit the country.
The rhetoric, that I hear today is much that I imagine I would have heard in 1920s Germany about the Jews. We know where that led.
We are being fed a lot of BS from the press, the BBC included. A few days ago, there was a report on the Today program, that TB is on the rise, mainly it seems because of the way we use antibiotics. However John Humphrey (who I have large amount of respect for), started the item with, and I paraphrase "TB is on the rise because of immigration..........some believe" The report had nothing to do with immigration, but his editors had put a link there.
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Think about it for a moment, a man (woman) that has traveled halfway around the world, risked their life to get here....... to collect dole?
Of course (and all the other benefits to send home). But you are clearly a liberal, doo gooder that cant see the wood for the trees.
You say that we are fed BS by the press, but who's to say that YOU are not fed BS? So all the national and international news agency and official police reports are all taking rubbish? all of them? all of the time?
Yes, mass migration from crime ridden country's like Albania, Romania, Hungry etc.. yes bring it on.
p.s. and this is coming from a son of immigrants both of which have never claimed a penny in benefits and employ Scottish workers.
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Of course everything that we read in the press is true. And Police statistics.......... you really want to go there?
Your last comment blowed your previous rant out of the water, unless you believe your parents are the exception. That being the case then keep all immigrants out, but remember there are no exceptions, not even your parents.
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Of course everything that we read in the press is true. And Police statistics.......... you really want to go there?
Your last comment blowed your previous rant out of the water, unless you believe your parents are the exception. That being the case then keep all immigrants out, but remember there are no exceptions, not even your parents.
You'll find that your the rant merchant that's why I had to comment.
So everything that's reported is a lie then? So that the population will resent immigrants? cool cool, I'll take your word for it.
I actually know someone that works in police records and she'd enlighten you about the volume and seriousness of crimes that eastern Europeans commit on daily basis here in Edinburgh and the surrounding areas And we are a very small, relatively peacefully city. Imagine Manchester, Birmingham, London etc
Here is something to ponder over Dee https://www.gov.uk/government/news/hmrcs-most-wanted-gallery-of-tax-fugitives-published-as-another-caught. I counted eight Anglo Saxon faces there out of 33. But that's another government cover up isn't it. ::)roll
As for my last comment. Certain country's are more developed than others.
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I thought that Scotland was a Celt domain, so why are you worried about Anglo Saxon faces? Oh sorry you meant WHITE faces. Wipe the mud off your knuckles as you look around at the modern world. Most countries now have a mx of races.
It seems to me you have the choice to leave the EU in September, but then the first thing old Alex wants to do is secure membership of the EU for Scotland, more dark faces I'm afraid. ;D
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Yes, multiculturalism does work doesn't it. ::)roll Take a look at south Africa, or North America or Israel and Palestine etc etc
Even here in Britain, a large part of minority cultures alienate themselves in there own communities and have no intention changing in the slightest. Of course, that's our fault.
Actually I'm not for independence (we would be stupid to go down that road) and I'm all up for leaving the EU.
See Australia has a fantastic policy on who can come in to their country and who cant. Does it make them racist? Does it make them cavemen?
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South Africa, Israel and North America, think about who are the indigenous population. Most of the issues in those countries came after they were invaded by europeans. As for Australians, take a close look at their treatment of Aborigines and tell me if you feel they're racist.
You may also find that most of the recent immigrants here, keep themselves to themselves, so that they avoid confrontation with people such as yourself.
Come on, close the Mail and open your mind.
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oh well lets open up the flood gates then?
The way you are talking you sound like a limp politician that has no backbone either that or you just love the fact that this country is going down the pooehole year on year?
Yes, lets get bent over, work harder to pay ever inflating taxes to support an ever growing population of immigrants. It doesn't matter that my future children will be in a class room of over 50 pupils (wonderful education that'll be) or the ever increasing waiting lists to visit a GP etc etc
"Australians, take a close look at their treatment of Aborigines and tell me if you feel they're racist." Excellent, another example of multiculturalism not working ha ha ;D
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"In Russia live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia , to work and eat in Russia , should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslim's then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia , and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture. We had better learn from the suicides of America , England , Holland and France , if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia . The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims. When this honourable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslims Minorities Are Not Russians.
The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.
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Ok, I've separated your rant from your fears. Here are the fears that you expressed.
"Yes, lets get bent over, work harder to pay ever inflating taxes to support an ever growing population of immigrants. It doesn't matter that my future children will be in a class room of over 50 pupils (wonderful education that'll be) or the ever increasing waiting lists to visit a GP etc etc"
So lets look at them, paying more taxes to support a growing population. Well if its growing then like any business there will be more income. Think of it as Tesco vs Mr Patels corner shop. (I know, but Mr Jones sold it to him) Tesco has more customers, therefore for a number of reasons, that comes from that, they are able to charge each customer less per item, even though their overheads, are much higher than poor old Mr Patel. Same with government income. More workers, therefore more revenue. In
theory less taxes. If not then you ask your limp politian, why they haven't reduced them.
The future of you kids and their large classrooms. More taxes again allows more schools to be built. Higher population, means that there will be more available teachers. More diverse culture means your child will have a better understanding and appreciation of others. Which as we can see would be a major asset to their current gene pool.
GP's, well when you next go to the surgery, take a moment to look around. The chances are at least one of the doctors are from Asia or Africa. The direct result of the multiculturalism that you fear, is there waiting to help you.
While we're on about self interest, of immigration. More people equals more homes, equals more windows, equals more business, equals more money, equals you can afford to IMMIGRATE if you don't like it. WIN, WIN, WIN.
You wont read any of that in the Daily Mail or police statistics. Take the prejudice, from your fears then examine your fears. However if racism, is your only motivation, then non of the above will matters.
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Your argument is based on the fact they may work but they may not and therefore they do not give anything and take anything the state is stupid enough to give them. Forget the racism thing for a minute - THE SYSTEM IS WRONG THAT ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. All the time we have British citizens on the dole why should there be any need for immigrant workers ? Again before you start on about how hard working the immigrants are, they are not all this way and the system is at fault. Areas of Dover and Margate are full of immigrants claiming, thieving, drug dealing and most of the time stand out on the street drinking and smoking. take off the blinkers and look whats happening. The system allows this ::)roll
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I've not been to Dover for a number of years, so I can't comment on the situation there. I would imagine that things will be more polarised there as it is the first port of entry.
However, as I've said before and has been proven for centuries, immigrants do so to improve their lot. They're self motivated, hard working, risk taking individuals, that other countries need, and their own countries can ill-afford to loose. It is inevitable that you will get free loaders, but they are very much in the minority of this group of people, as it takes effort and courage to travel to a new country leaving the comfort of what you know behind. By nature free loaders are trying to get something without effort, therefore they stay at home as its too much like hard work to make the move.
Come on we all know people that sit there complaining about there lot and telling us how lucky we are. We wonder why they don't get off their arse, knock a few doors a build a round the way that we have.
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Hi ,
Just read all the threads which followed your original question for advice and help and I can say the following(putting social and political issues aside):
I currently manage and operate a very successful cleaning & property services business and around9-10 years ago I asked this similar question.In general the most important thing to remember is to provide a professional, reliable and quality service.A service that you would expect as if you were the client.
End of tenancy cleans(EOT) requires adequate time, manpower and professional equipment and detergents in order to achieve consistent high level results, which will enable you to grow your business.
As a starting point you must follow this Golden Rule:
-TOP TO BOTTOM, LEFT TO RIGHT
This basically means you must clean each room in that fashion, because if you don't then you will miss out something and that will spoil the end result.Be thorough and almost military in the way you check and re check the house/flat.
If you are working on your own it could vary considerably how long it takes, but if you have staff then the following may apply:
1bed property:2-3hrs /£120-150
2 bed property:2-4hrs/£160-200
3 bed property:3-4hrs/£240-300
4 bed property: 4-5hrs/£300-350
The above does not incl the shampoo of carpets.It depends on how many staff are working in the property.
If you are to shampoo carpets then charge between £20-45/room depending on size.I use a Prochem Steempro HWE system and it has been the best bit of kit i bought and payed for itself in a couple of months.
As for hourly rates they could be between £12-17/hr/person.
Hope this helps.Stay professional, reliable and learn as much as you can by going on courses or viewing videos on YouTube etc.Do not worry about the competition, as previously mentioned, as bad competiton does not last long and you will stand out as a Professional!
Good luck.
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Eduardo
Just seen your post.
Interesting what your saying but question.
You say you charge between £12 - £17 an hour. You said it takes you 2 - 4 hours to clean a 2 bed carpet (for example), but you charge £120 - £150. But £17 x 4 is £68.
Is the rest carpet cleaning? or do you charge extra for windows, ovens etc?
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Hi,
The hourly rate is only applicable when clients ask for such a rate.
The other cost are approx cost for a whole job incl ovens, windows etc.
Finally carpets are extra.
At the end of the day you have to go with the flow and see what sort of reaction you get from your prospective client.The key is to know your operating cost and as long as you cover that then the rest is Profit!!!
Cheers,
Eduardo