Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tom20001 on January 03, 2014, 09:36:37 pm
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Alrite lads
Input much appreciated here on same as topic title
IVe been practicing over last few days but results good but not great :)
Ive looked at youtube videos so just looking for ur words of wisdom
Getting wee bit of spotting on odd window other than that quality decent!
And yes output tds at pole is 000ppm
Thanks in advance
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Make sure frames are mint to begin with, then you shouldnt really have many problems providing your technique is ok.
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Make sure frames are mint to begin with, then you shouldnt really have many problems providing your technique is ok.
The drips down from the frames seem to be causing problems too
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Make sure frames are mint to begin with, then you shouldnt really have many problems providing your technique is ok.
The drips down from the frames seem to be causing problems too
Try washing all the frames first on the whole house, then go back and do the glass on the whole house. This will give the frames chance to dry and minimise drips/runs
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The drips down from the frames seem to be causing problems too
Leaves you two choices.
1)Scrub/flush out the frames more or
2) avoid them and concentrate on the glass.
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Would scrubbing the frames without water, ie with a damp brush head be something anyone does to avoid these drips
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Just use a bit more water spend a little longer cleaning the frames and glass on first clean.. its really worth the effort, then next time its plane sailing
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Any input regarding techniques lads or is it simply clean frames, clean glass around seals, then rest of glass then rinse
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You'll be doing a lot of first cleans wfp.
What I do is this.
Clean the whole lot paying particular attention to the top frame/seal.
Then I leave it and go do some other houses, come back a bit later when drips have stopped running from the top frame.
Next, clean glass only and make sure not to touch the top frame.
For technique on regular cleans I go twice across the top frame,
Once round the rest of it.
Scrub glass up and down once then side to side working my way down glass so I'm rinsing as I do a second scrub.
On larger windows I tend to scrub twice and rinse with brush off.
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I do similar to DG but never come back just warn the customer of potential drips.
Not saying he's wrong, just another perspective.
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Warning custies of potental drips, is that just on first cleans
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I never have any problems on first cleans with drips i just spend the time on them use more water etc! if there really dirty frames just take the time to clean them properly.
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Warning custies of potental drips, is that just on first cleans
Don't warn customers about spotting on first cleans it just draws their attention to
something they wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
If you are getting drip marks then your doing something wrong.
Are you putting water above vents ?
Do the frames have degraded rubber seals ?
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9/10 on the second clean they say they were sparkly, just cover my back.
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Warning custies of potental drips, is that just on first cleans
Don't warn customers about spotting on first cleans it just draws their attention to
something they wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
If you are getting drip marks then your doing something wrong.
Are you putting water above vents ?
Do the frames have degraded rubber seals ?
Drips are minimal but seals are good and no vents etc
Main issue seems to be spotting. Im back monday so currently trying to get technique correct on my own house
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Stay away from above the vents .
However if it's a house converting from your Trad days then they should be relatively clean frames .
I sometimes clean above the vents on a house each day. , therefore always keeping Upto a good standard of frames being really clean .
The house I choose on a daily basis , I will clean all the upside frames first , then go back to the first window , and then clean the windows .
Can't leave above the vent for ever ???
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I have found that If I take the time on the first clean to deep clean frames and seals with G101. I don't have any more problems.. It takes much longer but As Im a startup Im as concerned about building a name as I am about making the money.. build the name the money will come..
I always charge 50% extra for The First clean.. to help cover the extra time.. I reckon I get this back on subsequent maintenance cleans as it a case of twice across the top frame. quick wipe over sides and sill. top seal twice up and down glass once side to side glass once and rinse Off..
On a first clean with vents I normally go back later in the day and if I have any runs I will just give the glass another rub.. After that keep away form the vents.. Once in a while I will rub above the vent but Never ever get water in the vent...
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if your changing over from trad then just wfp the top windows or you ll be there all day.
then over the coming months slowly change most ground floor windows to wfp.this is the easiest way to do it if your changing a big chunk of work to the pole.
if its just a new first clean to add on to your existing work then what i do is spend twice as much time on getting the frames and windows up to scratch.i turn my heater up and use hotter water.it cuts through the dirt better IMO.
ALWAYS watch out for top rubber seals and avoid them if possible if they are dodgy.some wooden windows can cause problems as well.make sure top frame has stopped dripping before your final rinse on the glass.
most problems with spotting/runs are down to a top frame not being cleaned and rinsed properly or trapped water in a dodgy top rubber seal that drips down causing runs.
regards
dazmond
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It doesn't matter how good or careful you are you will always get a small amount of spotting
here and there when using wfp methods.
I'm not saying on every property or window but on some, a good wfp cleaner will keep it to a minimum.
If your only getting a small amount of spotting then I wouldn't worry to much about it as
the customers wont even notice.
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We always warn customers about spotting and streaks. We want all our customers to be 100% happy every time. If it means we need to go back to some we might have got away with then that is OK, so long an our quality remains high and the customer remains happy.
When we did the switch from trad it was VERY hard going. Once we had done the whole round and got back to where we started it wad like night and day.
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what is your advice to clean this window? you can't avoid the middle frame,between the 2 glasses!
http://www.windowsmidlands.co.uk/images/windows/large/de-rosa_glass_house_windows_2.jpg
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We always warn customers about spotting and streaks. We want all our customers to be 100% happy every time. If it means we need to go back to some we might have got away with then that is OK, so long an our quality remains high and the customer remains happy.
When we did the switch from trad it was VERY hard going. Once we had done the whole round and got back to where we started it wad like night and day.
what do you mean by ''was like night and day''?
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It went from being very hard going to a breeze. The windows were all still pretty much clean so they were far easier to do.
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what is your advice to clean this window? you can't avoid the middle frame,between the 2 glasses!
http://www.windowsmidlands.co.uk/images/windows/large/de-rosa_glass_house_windows_2.jpg
I do a few like that, the middle frame wont cause any problems with spotting.The only thing
you need to watch out for is water leaking into the property if the seal is dodgy.
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if your changing over from trad then just wfp the top windows or you ll be there all day.
Why just the tops daz?
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what is your advice to clean this window? you can't avoid the middle frame,between the 2 glasses!
http://www.windowsmidlands.co.uk/images/windows/large/de-rosa_glass_house_windows_2.jpg
Never have an issue with these just a quick scrub and its fine :D
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Been practicing again today and it seems my my problems are coming from drips down the window after I have finished it
Today I just avoided to inch of glass and the finish is perfect
Thanks for help lads
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Alrite lads
Input much appreciated here on same as topic title
IVe been practicing over last few days but results good but not great :)
Ive looked at youtube videos so just looking for ur words of wisdom
Getting wee bit of spotting on odd window other than that quality decent!
And yes output tds at pole is 000ppm
Thanks in advance
Put a small drop of Fairy on the brush, and soap up the window, all dirt gets absorbed in to the foam and is easy to rinse away.
Do this on all first cleans or spray the brush with a bit of neat virosol.
Only have to do this once.
Roy
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what is your advice to clean this window? you can't avoid the middle frame,between the 2 glasses!
http://www.windowsmidlands.co.uk/images/windows/large/de-rosa_glass_house_windows_2.jpg
Easy Ben mate...
I do all frames first, then the top window then back to the bottom parts. Providing the middle section frame is mint it'll be fine
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Small tub of vaseline.
Works wonders on rectus 26 pro fittings and Hoselock fittings when they get stiff, Oh and chapped lips
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I always advise having a bucket of pure water with some GG3 window cleaning liquid in it. Before starting dip the brush head in the bucket - this will give enough detergent on the job to dissolve all the dirt and then the flow of pure water will rinse away all the detergent and dirt.
With 'picky' customers it can be worthwhile to do this every time - they get to see some 'soap' on the glass and think it gives them a better clean ;)
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If you have spotting on the glass then there is still dirt on the frame so rinse the frames a bit longer till water rinses clean practice make perfect, its really experience and that is something you will need to learn with time.
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What do you mean by spotting guys, is it when the water left on the windows drys and I presume spots?
And if you use any sort of soap or cleaner in the brush head aren't you contaminating it and waste of time using pure water?
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What do you mean by spotting guys, is it when the water left on the windows drys and I presume spots?
And if you use any sort of soap or cleaner in the brush head aren't you contaminating it and waste of time using pure water?
Forget the soap IMO, its a waste of time, as in more hassle than what its worth.
Just get those frames super clean, give the glass a good going over, rinse well and you cant really have many problems.
(when rinsing, make sure you leave a inch or so gap from the top frame... this will stop any dirty drips)
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Do u guys take the brush away from the glass after you've scrubbed and then just point the jets at the glass to wash it down in a stream?
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Do u guys take the brush away from the glass after you've scrubbed and then just point the jets at the glass to wash it down in a stream?
Yes.
I go across the top (leaving a gap) twice, then zig zag down the glass about a foot away from the glass.
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what is your advice to clean this window? you can't avoid the middle frame,between the 2 glasses!
http://www.windowsmidlands.co.uk/images/windows/large/de-rosa_glass_house_windows_2.jpg
Never have an issue with these just a quick scrub and its fine :D
+1 never have issues with these....most upvc windows come up good first time I find... wooden frames can sometimes cause problems but not too often it's the aluminium framed ones I find to be by far the worst for milky runs and spotting!