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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Marc Whitbread on January 03, 2014, 04:29:32 pm
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Wanted to get a feel for the avearge daily takings of a window cleaner 1 man workload
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::)roll
Here we go....
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
pmsl ;D
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
Sorry Missed that one out wasnt enough options never get why people do houses for that much! might as well work at tesco's if thats all people charge
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Race to £200 then home
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An average amount for honest wfp from lads i speak to is between £150-£250 a day,
There are others out there that arnt so honest who say they earn £500 plus a day on there own.
On ladders £100-150 a day.
A lot depends where in the uk you live, in Surrey where you are id imagine top dolla will be gained.
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::)roll
Here we go....
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An average amount for honest wfp from lads i speak to is between £150-£250 a day,
There are others out there that arnt so honest who say they earn £500 plus a day on there own.
On ladders £100-150 a day.
A lot depends where in the uk you live, in Surrey where you are id imagine top dolla will be gained.
Cheers thats what I thought yeh surrey and hants is good I've heard up north its not so good! London must be a good area for you?!
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please dont take offence but are you the taxman or summit ?
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and what do you earn a day ?
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please dont take offence but are you the taxman or summit ?
No just curious to know the average daily work etc Ive been going 4 years and just curious to know thats all
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An average amount for honest wfp from lads i speak to is between £150-£250 a day,
There are others out there that arnt so honest who say they earn £500 plus a day on there own.
On ladders £100-150 a day.
A lot depends where in the uk you live, in Surrey where you are id imagine top dolla will be gained.
wot e said :)
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and what do you earn a day ?
I take on average about £260 a day 11 months usually obviously summer is better winter is worse so have to average but summer can do £280-£320 plus and winter varies massively £190-£280 depending
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not again
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Christmas Day= £0
Boxing Day= £0
New Years Day= £0
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Wanted to get a feel for the avearge daily takings of a window cleaner 1 man workload
Marc,
Do you have someone working with you most days?
I'm sure last year I saw your van in Rowledge (near Farnham) with 2 people working from it?
Andy ;)
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Christmas Day= £0
Boxing Day= £0
New Years Day= £0
;D
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Wanted to get a feel for the avearge daily takings of a window cleaner 1 man workload
Marc,
Do you have someone working with you most days?
I'm sure last year I saw your van in Rowledge (near Farnham) with 2 people working from it?
Andy ;)
Hi Andy I used to have a guy with me but dropped him after 2 years tough decision but he was always calling sick and messing me about! Whats your company name Andy?
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Hi Andy I used to have a guy with me but dropped him after 2 years tough decision but he was always calling sick and messing me about!
I know the feeling...
I've got a new guy with me now who is doing well - Just hope he keeps it up!
Whats your company name Andy?
Iconic Window Cleaning - www.iconicwindowcleaning.co.uk
My van isn't sign written (at the moment) - If I see your van around again I'll come and say hello.
I did see it in Fleet a couple of weeks ago - not that I'm stalking you ;)
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I will get another guy at some point would rather do a second van though than 2 people in 1! what make van you in?
yes do come and say Hi if you see me about! no course not thats what they all say ;)
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I will get another guy at some point would rather do a second van though than 2 people in 1! what make van you in?
yes do come and say Hi if you see me about! no course not thats what they all say Wink
Yeah I'm going to get a second van in the spring - put the other guy in it 3 days a week and 1 or 2 with me.
I'm using a Toyota Hiace at the moment... Although I'm currently kitting out a Vivaro which will be ready and on the road within the next 2 weeks and sign written at the end of the month ;)
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I will get another guy at some point would rather do a second van though than 2 people in 1! what make van you in?
yes do come and say Hi if you see me about! no course not thats what they all say Wink
Yeah I'm going to get a second van in the spring - put the other guy in it 3 days a week and 1 or 2 with me.
I'm using a Toyota Hiace at the moment... Although I'm currently kitting out a Vivaro which will be ready and on the road within the next 2 weeks and sign written at the end of the month ;)
wow Buisness must be going well! why not just leave them going out in second van surely more cost effective? do you do a job on the corner of elms and wood road/lane in fleet? think I saw you there about a month ago
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wow Buisness must be going well! why not just leave them going out in second van surely more cost effective? do you do a job on the corner of elms and wood road/lane in fleet? think I saw you there about a month ago
I need to sell the Hiace to pay for the Vivaro (need to pay my bro back) :-\ But should be able to afford a smaller van in the spring as a second van - a Vauxhall Combo or something similar.
Yes that was me (and the guy who works with me) - That's when I saw you ha ha :)
Do you do much work in Fleet?
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wow Buisness must be going well! why not just leave them going out in second van surely more cost effective? do you do a job on the corner of elms and wood road/lane in fleet? think I saw you there about a month ago
I need to sell the Hiace to pay for the Vivaro (need to pay my bro back) :-\ But should be able to afford a smaller van in the spring as a second van - a Vauxhall Combo or something similar.
Yes that was me (and the guy who works with me) - That's when I saw you ha ha :)
Do you do much work in Fleet?
Ah I see! the hiace no good then? about 200 jobs in fleet roughly?! how about yourself?
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Ah I see! the hiace no good then? about 200 jobs in fleet roughly?! how about yourself?
The Hiace has been a great van... Just looks a bit tatty now so thought I would replace for something a bit better looking ;)
I haven't got much in Fleet - Only a couple of days worth of work every 8 weeks... Most of my work is in Farnham and Alton - Although I cover about a 30 mile radius.
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Ah I see! the hiace no good then? about 200 jobs in fleet roughly?! how about yourself?
The Hiace has been a great van... Just looks a bit tatty now so thought I would replace for something a bit better looking ;)
I haven't got much in Fleet - Only a couple of days worth of work every 8 weeks... Most of my work is in Farnham and Alton - Although I cover about a 30 mile radius.
Thats fair enough! Mines getting a bit of rust on it cover quite a way then! would be worth us meeting up for a drink and chat I often get asked to reccomend someone to do areas that I dont cover I got one ask me about bordon the other week actually! you cover that way?
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
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Money discussions on a forum is just in bad taste.
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
£900 a day? whose windows do you clean the queens? :o
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and what do you earn a day ?
I take on average about £260 a day 11 months usually obviously summer is better winter is worse so have to average but summer can do £280-£320 plus and winter varies massively £190-£280 depending
Why on earth would you talk about the finances of your business to a bunch of strangers on the internet, what do you hope to gain from this ???
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and what do you earn a day ?
I take on average about £260 a day 11 months usually obviously summer is better winter is worse so have to average but summer can do £280-£320 plus and winter varies massively £190-£280 depending
Why on earth would you talk about the finances of your business to a bunch of strangers on the internet, what do you hope to gain from this ???
nothing to hide from anyone can all be found on companies house if anyone was that interested anyway but I see your point! ::)roll
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Thats fair enough! Mines getting a bit of rust on it cover quite a way then! would be worth us meeting up for a drink and chat I often get asked to reccomend someone to do areas that I dont cover I got one ask me about bordon the other week actually! you cover that way?
Yeah we should do that, that would be cool :)
Yes I cover Bordon way... If they still need a window cleaner I would be happy to quote (my email is andy@iconicwindowcleaning.co.uk) ;)
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
lies lies lies, ido £910 aday with 20 barrels in the same car ;D ;D ;D
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£950 half days! I just spent £5000 on a super extreme max 5ft pole for doing door windows too.
I also charge £100 if a customer asks me to clean a 2ft skylight.
Easy money, work hard, rip people off and bs where I can.
wwwcleanitupbs.com
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£950 half days! I just spent £5000 on a super extreme max 5ft pole for doing door windows too.
I also charge £100 if a customer asks me to clean a 2ft skylight.
Easy money, work hard, rip people off and bs where I can.
wwwcleanitupbs.com
HaHa 8)
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
£900 a day? whose windows do you clean the queens? :o
I used to do her doctors, the one who she used to see when she was in residence at Windsor castle and also Prince Charles's PPS. Both got binned, crap payers.
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£38.00
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
£900 a day? whose windows do you clean the queens? :o
I used to do her doctors, the one who she used to see when she was in residence at Windsor castle and also Prince Charles's PPS. Both got binned, crap payers.
Damn straight. Binned and replaced with 4 more.
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Wheres £250 - £300?
Irrelevant, I generally aim to knock out £900 by the end of most days. Thats by myself, with my Ford Ka and a PureFreedom trolley unit. I have 24 barrels stacked in the back, they fit, just, and if necessary go home for a fill up at dinner time.
£900 a day? whose windows do you clean the queens? :o
I used to do her doctors, the one who she used to see when she was in residence at Windsor castle and also Prince Charles's PPS. Both got binned, crap payers.
He's not telling porkies either. That's true.
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On a good day £60 ;)
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I usually manage about £250 between 10 and 11am, have a break, and do another £250 between 11am and midday.
Then I have lunch, go to the gym, swim 20 miles, play a round of golf and buy a new SLX, before doing the long stint between 2pm and 4pm where I earn £350.
So for me, £850 and that's taking it easy.
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I usually manage about £250 between 10 and 11am, have a break, and do another £250 between 11am and midday.
Then I have lunch, go to the gym, swim 20 miles, play a round of golf and buy a new SLX, before doing the long stint between 2pm and 4pm where I earn £350.
So for me, £850 and that's taking it easy.
;D
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I charge £5 for a 3 bed property and do about 100 a day so its £500 a day for me.
Used to clean 200 a day but at 90 I'm starting to slow down a little.
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If you can only make £900 a day, you need to move up North that's where the real money is to be made!!! ;D
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I work like a trojan from 8 til 4, stopping for a couple of minutes to have a quick bite at 12 ish. I manage to cram in 30 houses a day which equates to £90 :o.......................well I am from Scotland ;D
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I work like a trojan from 8 til 4, stopping for a couple of minutes to have a quick bite at 12 ish. I manage to cram in 30 houses a day which equates to £90 :o.......................well I am from Scotland ;D
£90 is an awful lot of Buckie.
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I work like a trojan from 8 til 4, stopping for a couple of minutes to have a quick bite at 12 ish. I manage to cram in 30 houses a day which equates to £90 :o.......................well I am from Scotland ;D
£90 is an awful lot of Buckie.
;D ;D
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
I've cleaned windows in a number of different regions in the UK and the prices vary within each area.
If you are going to slag people off at least get your facts right as well as your spelling. You are obviously a thick A***hole, although I would imagine you already know this about yourself.
It's no wonder window cleaners have the reputation we have with people like you about.
I've only just joined the forum and don't care if I get banned as it's pointless being on a forum with a***holes like you on them.
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Welcome to the forum. Lol
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
I've cleaned windows in a number of different regions in the UK and the prices vary within each area.
If you are going to slag people off at least get your facts right as well as your spelling. You are obviously a thick A***hole, although I would imagine you already know this about yourself.
It's no wonder window cleaners have the reputation we have with people like you about.
I've only just joined the forum and don't care if I get banned as it's pointless being on a forum with a***holes like you on them.
Don't let the door smack you in the head on your way out.
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
I've cleaned windows in a number of different regions in the UK and the prices vary within each area.
If you are going to slag people off at least get your facts right as well as your spelling. You are obviously a thick A***hole, although I would imagine you already know this about yourself.
It's no wonder window cleaners have the reputation we have with people like you about.
I've only just joined the forum and don't care if I get banned as it's pointless being on a forum with a***holes like you on them.
Don't let the door smack you in the head on your way out.
Noticed you spend alot of time on here. Why don't you get a life???
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Well my mummy says im special and its ok to be thick and not be able to spell so great and becoming a window cleaner!.
Whats your excuse for being a gutless 🐓having to make up a fake profile to belittle someone for there spelling calling them thick just because they made a joke about £3 houses in scotland??.✌️✌️✌️
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I usually manage about £250 between 10 and 11am, have a break, and do another £250 between 11am and midday.
Then I have lunch, go to the gym, swim 20 miles, play a round of golf and buy a new SLX, before doing the long stint between 2pm and 4pm where I earn £350.
So for me, £850 and that's taking it easy.
we actaully did do a day over £800 just before christmas on regulars. it's our biggest yet by far. we were cramming work in so we could close down for 2 weeks over christmas.
that was 3 working from 1 van with 2 poles and a runner.
that's not our average daily rate, tho still pretty impressive i think :)
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
I've cleaned windows in a number of different regions in the UK and the prices vary within each area.
If you are going to slag people off at least get your facts right as well as your spelling. You are obviously a thick A***hole, although I would imagine you already know this about yourself.
It's no wonder window cleaners have the reputation we have with people like you about.
I've only just joined the forum and don't care if I get banned as it's pointless being on a forum with a***holes like you on them.
What are we going to do now? Another member has left!!! If this keeps up, the forum will have nobody on it by 2135 :o Hope he comes back, he's forgot his teddy :(
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Well I'm offended.
I may have to delete my profile now.
In Scotland we charge £3 per house but remember we live in mud huts with nae windies so it's no too bad a price. If we weren't oppressed by you English for centuries we might be able to charge as much as £5. Not more than that though - any higher and you are on a level with the price of a bottle of buckfast.
Why people bother with these topics I don't know. ::)roll
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i charge £3 for some house fronts and do well for myself!albeit not many though! ;D ;D ;D
i ticked the £50-£100 an hour box.how an earth some of you guys earn£300+ an hour! ::)roll.by the way if you want some cheap chinese poles give us a ring.ive also got a few 18 L backpacks for sale as im struggling to pay the rent this month ??? ???
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Ha.
It was per day not per hour.
Silly Dazmond.
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it was a joke soupy! ;D ;D ;D
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I know that is why I laughed!
Ha!
Is that not the normal reaction you get to your jokes?
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not really soupy!im not one for jokes!i leave that for g.griffin!in fact i think he s so good he s wasted as a window cleaner! ;D ;D
best wishes
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Oh dear. Griff's jokes are terrible - no way he could get £900 a day with those puns.
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Griff's joke are so bad that he could get £900 not to say them.
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I usually manage about £250 between 10 and 11am, have a break, and do another £250 between 11am and midday.
Then I have lunch, go to the gym, swim 20 miles, play a round of golf and buy a new SLX, before doing the long stint between 2pm and 4pm where I earn £350.
So for me, £850 and that's taking it easy.
we actaully did do a day over £800 just before christmas on regulars. it's our biggest yet by far. we were cramming work in so we could close down for 2 weeks over christmas.
that was 3 working from 1 van with 2 poles and a runner.
that's not our average daily rate, tho still pretty impressive i think :)
You obviously gave them too long a lunch break otherwise u could have hit a grand ;D
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Griff's joke are so bad that he could get £900 not to say them.
I love Griffs puns.
They always make me smile.
He puts some effort into them!
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Griff's joke are so bad that he could get £900 not to say them.
I love Griffs puns.
They always make me smile.
He puts some effort into them!
Seriously you mean his trying.....it would just take one bullet
to put him out of his misery :'(
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Did you know that US window cleaners earn double what we earn per day!!!!
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Did you know that US window cleaners earn double what we earn per day!!!!
Yeah but the yanks don't have their windows cleaned every month do they.
(admittedly only 1 source) but i heard that they have them done yearly or twice a year in New Jersey.
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Did you know that US window cleaners earn double what we earn per day!!!!
Hi Lee, started a topic on aus if you could check it out please.
Thought if any one would know you would ;D
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I'm amazed how some of you on here earn what you say you do but yet have basic vans, poles and small tanks .
Can easily see through are few on here .
But there's a few on here that offer great advice , very knowledgeable and are very organised and run good businesses .
All the best for 2014
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Is this a poll for wfpers and tradders?
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I'm amazed how some of you on here earn what you say you do but yet have basic vans, poles and small tanks .
Can easily see through are few on here .
But there's a few on here that offer great advice , very knowledgeable and are very organised and run good businesses .
All the best for 2014
Sometimes it's the odd, small comment that also gives the game away.
I do agree though, that for all it's being slagged off on other unmentionable 'oh we are so nice to each other' forums, the amount of knowledge posted on here sometimes is staggering.
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Wheres £0 to £50?
There is people doing houses for less than £4
I was thinking that for all the Scotish charging £3 a house
I've cleaned windows in a number of different regions in the UK and the prices vary within each area.
If you are going to slag people off at least get your facts right as well as your spelling. You are obviously a thick A***hole, although I would imagine you already know this about yourself.
It's no wonder window cleaners have the reputation we have with people like you about.
I've only just joined the forum and don't care if I get banned as it's pointless being on a forum with a***holes like you on them.
Don't let the door smack you in the head on your way out.
Noticed you spend alot of time on here. Why don't you get a life???
Come back Terry,lol
Terry come back.
2014 poster of the year goes to Terry Wild the happy window cleaner.
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Terry had a point though to be honest. All because not every Window cleaner charges £15 for a 2bed semi haha. Always comes down to the same thing on here every topic lol.
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And before someone asks.. I'd charge £7 haha £9/£10 with conservatory. I can do 4 an hour £28 an hour is better than the £6.50 my mate earns packing crisps into boxes on a 12hour shift...
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Joey by the time you pay for fuel, equipment, tax, van running costs etc your hourly rate wont be far better than your mates.
If you work out the costs involved in running your business and take them off your yearly earnings it makes a huge painful dent.
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Even if he takes off £8 an hour its still £20 in his pocket.
Lets say he works 30 hours per week that's £240 per week in expenses.
If your spending that much per week running a one man window cleaning business
then you need to re-examine you outgoings.
I had a bigger than usual spend last year new poles van tyres, R.O. membrane and so on.
My expenses including holiday pay came in at around a £100 a week.
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joey how do you manage to clean 4 houses and connies in an hour. have you thought about running window cleaning classes, if so il sign up.
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I think he means £7 for a two bed semi four an hour wouldn't be a problem
could even do five if they where in a row.
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And before someone asks.. I'd charge £7 haha £9/£10 with conservatory. I can do 4 an hour £28 an hour is better than the £6.50 my mate earns packing crisps into boxes on a 12hour shift...
where do you cover?ex Leicestershire lad here.
I presume your on about walkers?
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Even if he takes off £8 an hour its still £20 in his pocket.
Lets say he works 30 hours per week that's £240 per week in expenses.
If your spending that much per week running a one man window cleaning business
then you need to re-examine you outgoings.
I had a bigger than usual spend last year new poles van tyres, R.O. membrane and so on.
My expenses including holiday pay came in at around a £100 a week.
Holiday, sick pay, lost days, fuel, car maintenance (tax, insurance, servicing, depreciation), office overhead (phone, paper, ink). Plus the bits you mentioned and unless he has no need to quote, travel, get vehicle ready, collect, pay cheques in, check bank account, plan day and so on all these add up to considerably more than £8 an hour.
With no pension, benefits or long term security it would be very foolish to think he is getting anywhere near £20 an hour.
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Even if he takes off £8 an hour its still £20 in his pocket.
Lets say he works 30 hours per week that's £240 per week in expenses.
If your spending that much per week running a one man window cleaning business
then you need to re-examine you outgoings.
I had a bigger than usual spend last year new poles van tyres, R.O. membrane and so on.
My expenses including holiday pay came in at around a £100 a week.
Holiday, sick pay, lost days, fuel, car maintenance (tax, insurance, servicing, depreciation), office overhead (phone, paper, ink). Plus the bits you mentioned and unless he has no need to quote, travel, get vehicle ready, collect, pay cheques in, check bank account, plan day and so on all these add up to considerably more than £8 an hour.
With no pension, benefits or long term security it would be very foolish to think he is getting anywhere near £20 an hour.
For once!!! What he said ;D
If i could get £20 cleared an hour from just cleaning £28 an hour doing it all legal then id be praising the lord.
Spend 6k on a van to last 3 years, thats 2k off your total each year. Add on the insurence,tax,mot,2 services plus parts via wear and tear goes to another 2k a year to take off not to mention fuel which for a sole worker will be around £200 a month so theres another £2400 that comes off, then as said if you take 2 weeks a year off due to holiday/ sickness thats another 2k a year lost. Then your tax bill for an average sole worker 4-6k for the year. We are upto 13k deduction on the year already already without taking equipment/filters/resin/clothing/work lunch etc etc into consideration
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Strange I paid 8 grand for a van 5 years ago and its still going strong.
I would expect to get another 5 years from it as it as good today as when bought.
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I was giving an example.
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So as follows...
Van £800 per year.
tax and insurance £600.
Other insurance £200.
M.o.t. last year cost £100
Van tyres £300
Poles and brushes £700.
Filters and resin £70
With a few other bits and bobs lets say £3000 and that's a big year for me.
Wont include what I spend on holiday pay as its up to me what I pay myself when not working
but I will say its well over £6.60 an hour.
So at £28 an hour over 30 hours a week over 40 weeks a year gives me £33600 take £5000
out for expenses and I still have £28600 before taxes.
O.K. this might not be a fortune for somebody living in London but where I work its well above average.
What other low skilled manual job would pay that money for those hours.
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So as follows...
Van £800 per year.
tax and insurance £600.
Other insurance £200.
M.o.t. last year cost £100
Van tyres £300
Poles and brushes £700.
Filters and resin £70
With a few other bits and bobs lets say £3000 and that's a big year for me.
Wont include what I spend on holiday pay as its up to me what I pay myself when not working
but I will say its well over £6.60 an hour.
So at £28 an hour over 30 hours a week over 40 weeks a year gives me £33600 take £5000
out for expenses and I still have £28600 before taxes.
O.K. this might not be a fortune for somebody living in London but where I work its well above average.
What other low skilled manual job would pay that money for those hours.
Does your van run on air and have a maintenance free engine? That's just one glaring omission.
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That's why I put £5000 instead of £3000 to allow for missed expenses.
£10 a week does me on fuel as 90% of my work is within a mile from where I live.
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That's why I put £5000 instead of £3000 to allow for missed expenses.
£10 a week does me on fuel as 90% of my work is within a mile from where I live.
But in your quick calculation you missed off your biggest cost to your business. "I'm out". ;D
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Think a few on here are trying to convince themselves that this is the promised land of trades.... ::)roll
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Think a few on here are trying to convince themselves that this is the promised land of trades.... ::)roll
I earned £15000 a year working in a factory on nights so for me it is even though I don't
earn half as much as some on here.
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So as follows...
Van £800 per year.
tax and insurance £600.
Other insurance £200.
M.o.t. last year cost £100
Van tyres £300
Poles and brushes £700.
Filters and resin £70
With a few other bits and bobs lets say £3000 and that's a big year for me.
i agree Mick,
my van was leased from new, now 3.5 yrs old and is starting to fall apart! with the amount of usage it gets 5 days a week it is inevitable. it is out between 8-9 hrs a day so that is why the wear and tear is so high.
if your van isn;t wearing out this fast then it is most likely the case that you aren't doing as much work. no problem with that, but it explains the difference between costs :)
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I average around £25 an hour even with tax and expenses im still miles
better off and happier than when i was a employed grunt on£9 a hour.
My biggest expense on a weekly basis is fuel which is still more than
50% less than what i was spending on my daily 40 mile return journey
to work and back.99% of my work is within 2 miles of my home.
Over the last twelve months i have bought
1x 70psi pump sparefor packs£35
2 gardiner brushes £60 +
1 harris pole £15
5mm hose from B&q £20
25 litrs resin £75
I put away weekly amounts for tax,vehicle exise duty and maintenance
and all the other expenses in life which is a lot easier to do averaging
£25 a hour
Than it was when i was an employee woking 40hrs a week earning
£9 a hour.
Im just a self employed window cleaner what do i know ;D
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Net profit is the main figure you should be interested in.
Many companies on here like to brag of their earnings, show off the unit and count their vans. Means nothing at the end of the day if their net profit is crap!
Remember Richy Wilts? Huge turnover loads, of staff, nice unit yet couldn't afford to pay himself a wage, couldn't get a loan and had to resort to crime to make money.
I turn over more than I used to earn as a Printer on treble shifts with overtime - impressive? You bet, until I look at my net profit for the end of year and lack of holidays.
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Remember Richy Wilts? Huge turnover loads, of staff, nice unit yet couldn't afford to pay himself a wage, couldn't get a loan and had to resort to crime to make money.
i reckon he should be out soon... i think it was march he went down? wonder what plans he's dreamed up and what state his business should be in.... :o
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Net profit is the main figure you should be interested in.
Many companies on here like to brag of their earnings, show off the unit and count their vans. Means nothing at the end of the day if their net profit is crap!
Remember Richy Wilts? Huge turnover loads, of staff, nice unit yet couldn't afford to pay himself a wage, couldn't get a loan and had to resort to crime to make money.
I turn over more than I used to earn as a Printer on treble shifts with overtime - impressive? You bet, until I look at my net profit for the end of year and lack of holidays.
Thats because you spend all your cash on your love for Alex gardiner ;D ;)
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
56 days you are having a giraffe sir michael i never had more than 30 days
ever and that was with bank holidays
End of the day we all pays our money and take a chance,what you say above
is right but i prefer to look at it as i dont work twelve hour days anymore
and the hours i do work more than compensate for the above.
when i get a shift on and take more work on from sept-dec and work
weekends its so i can put my feet up as i am now till the end of the first
week in feb...im benefitting from my endeavour not some employer
or shareholder and its mostly on my terms.
All the ins and outs of it all is irelevant far as im concerned
but it is easy for me to say that as im just a self employed window
cleaner no major business or employees to worry about.
Keeping it simple is sweet for me :)
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
56 days you are having a giraffe sir michael i never had more than 30 days
ever and that was with bank holidays
End of the day we all pays our money and take a chance,what you say above
is right but i prefer to look at it as i dont work twelve hour days anymore
and the hours i do work more than compensate for the above.
when i get a shift on and take more work on from sept-dec and work
weekends its so i can put my feet up as i am now till the end of the first
week in feb...im benefitting from my endeavour not some employer
or shareholder and its mostly on my terms.
All the ins and outs of it all is irelevant far as im concerned
but it is easy for me to say that as im just a self employed window
cleaner no major business or employees to worry about.
Keeping it simple is sweet for me :)
Thought you had January off Gazza?
You can't say you only have another 25 days off for the whole year! Surely?
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
56 days you are having a giraffe sir michael i never had more than 30 days
ever and that was with bank holidays
End of the day we all pays our money and take a chance,what you say above
is right but i prefer to look at it as i dont work twelve hour days anymore
and the hours i do work more than compensate for the above.
when i get a shift on and take more work on from sept-dec and work
weekends its so i can put my feet up as i am now till the end of the first
week in feb...im benefitting from my endeavour not some employer
or shareholder and its mostly on my terms.
All the ins and outs of it all is irelevant far as im concerned
but it is easy for me to say that as im just a self employed window
cleaner no major business or employees to worry about.
Keeping it simple is sweet for me :)
I was guestimating the amount but even 30 is an awful lot although im sure its more though as im sure i used to get 25 days paid holiday then 1.5-2 weeks at xmas and new year roughly and the 8 bank holidays!! Was a long time ago though so i could be wrong.
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Absolute madness having all this chat on a public forum, blame yourselves when your all moaning about the Bulgarians nicking your work!
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
56 days you are having a giraffe sir michael i never had more than 30 days
ever and that was with bank holidays
End of the day we all pays our money and take a chance,what you say above
is right but i prefer to look at it as i dont work twelve hour days anymore
and the hours i do work more than compensate for the above.
when i get a shift on and take more work on from sept-dec and work
weekends its so i can put my feet up as i am now till the end of the first
week in feb...im benefitting from my endeavour not some employer
or shareholder and its mostly on my terms.
All the ins and outs of it all is irelevant far as im concerned
but it is easy for me to say that as im just a self employed window
cleaner no major business or employees to worry about.
Keeping it simple is sweet for me :)
I was guestimating the amount but even 30 is an awful lot although im sure its more though as im sure i used to get 25 days paid holiday then 1.5-2 weeks at xmas and new year roughly and the 8 bank holidays!! Was a long time ago though so i could be wrong.
25 days and we had to keep 5 for xmas,so iwas wrong 28 in total ;D,as for sick pay you are lucky
these days if you have a decent contract that gives you full sick pay
rather than statutory sick pay which is £50-£60 a week and with the ever
increasing popularity of temp and zero hour contracts with employers
we really are better off far as im concerned doing what we do.
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Thats the thing, we dont get 25 days payed holiday a year, we dont get paid the 8 bank holiday days in the year, we don get paid the 2 weeks over christmas.
Thats 56 days roughly give or take that we dont get that we would being employed.
Self employed has its cons as well as its pros.
All i know is im happy in what and how i do it so happy days.
56 days you are having a giraffe sir michael i never had more than 30 days
ever and that was with bank holidays
End of the day we all pays our money and take a chance,what you say above
is right but i prefer to look at it as i dont work twelve hour days anymore
and the hours i do work more than compensate for the above.
when i get a shift on and take more work on from sept-dec and work
weekends its so i can put my feet up as i am now till the end of the first
week in feb...im benefitting from my endeavour not some employer
or shareholder and its mostly on my terms.
All the ins and outs of it all is irelevant far as im concerned
but it is easy for me to say that as im just a self employed window
cleaner no major business or employees to worry about.
Keeping it simple is sweet for me :)
Thought you had January off Gazza?
You can't say you only have another 25 days off for the whole year! Surely?
yep off right now until the end of the first week feb,supposed to
be in san miguel right now but got sodding man flu :( will meet the
missus out there end of next week instead.
i take odd days off for long weekends and fishing trips throughout
spring and summer ad obviously days when weather is too extreme
to work,otherwise i just crack on, especially during autumn
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Absolute madness having all this chat on a public forum, blame yourselves when your all moaning about the Bulgarians nicking your work!
i;m not sure bulgarians are the most likely people to read this forum and then pick up work.
i;m also not sure that too many non window cleaners will read this forum and think 'wow what a great job to have'. there are a lot of better businesses out there and a lot of better jobs. window cleanings has it's advantages and disadvantages, like any business
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fin clearview bulgarians WILL NOT be nicking your work anytime soon!its a myth.if you do a good job for a fair price you wont lose any.
as for brand new vans falling apart after 3 years.your having a laugh surely!!
my van is 14 years old and cost me £1400 nearly 4 YEARS ago!!granted i only do 2500-3000 miles a year due to very compact work but its still going!!used day in/day out and probably overweight first thing in the morning! ;D
i reckon if you have £25,000-£30,000 clear profit after all expenses and taxes are deducted your doing well as a self employed window cleaner working on your own. ;)
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Lol i cant see our customers dropping us for a thieving benefit cheating bulgarian unless we are realy that bad and do a dishonest job.
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Absolute madness having all this chat on a public forum, blame yourselves when your all moaning about the Bulgarians nicking your work!
i;m not sure bulgarians are the most likely people to read this forum and then pick up work.
i;m also not sure that too many non window cleaners will read this forum and think 'wow what a great job to have'. there are a lot of better businesses out there and a lot of better jobs. window cleanings has it's advantages and disadvantages, like any business
I hope you're right Richard.
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I am not going to tell anyone here what I earn. That is between me and the tax man. I fail to understand why this question continues to come up, other than give some the opportunity to puff out the chest and say that they are doing better than whoever, or if we are earning less we are doing something wrong.
I am in this game to earn a wage and support my family. Nothing more, nothing less. I earn what I need to earn and I work in my own way to achieve these objectives.
John
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I am not going to tell anyone here what I earn. That is between me and the tax man. I fail to understand why this question continues to come up, other than give some the opportunity to puff out the chest and say that they are doing better than whoever, or if we are earning less we are doing something wrong.
I am in this game to earn a wage and support my family. Nothing more, nothing less. I earn what I need to earn and I work in my own way to achieve these objectives.
John
And the post of the week goes to...............Jonny ;)
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and what do you earn a day ?
I take on average about £260 a day 11 months usually obviously summer is better winter is worse so have to average but summer can do £280-£320 plus and winter varies massively £190-£280 depending
Why on earth would you talk about the finances of your business to a bunch of strangers on the internet, what do you hope to gain from this ???
nothing to hide from anyone can all be found on companies house if anyone was that interested anyway but I see your point! ::)roll
only limited companies and even then it isnt a full accounts and can be ajusted
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I am not going to tell anyone here what I earn. That is between me and the tax man. I fail to understand why this question continues to come up, other than give some the opportunity to puff out the chest and say that they are doing better than whoever, or if we are earning less we are doing something wrong.
I am in this game to earn a wage and support my family. Nothing more, nothing less. I earn what I need to earn and I work in my own way to achieve these objectives.
John
All these idiots like to lie and claim benefits tho....
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I am not going to tell anyone here what I earn. That is between me and the tax man. I fail to understand why this question continues to come up, other than give some the opportunity to puff out the chest and say that they are doing better than whoever, or if we are earning less we are doing something wrong.
I am in this game to earn a wage and support my family. Nothing more, nothing less. I earn what I need to earn and I work in my own way to achieve these objectives.
John
If you are in it to make a wage to support your family that's fine and it makes sense that this type of thread isn't interesting for you.
If however you're approaching this industry as a business and are trying to maximise profit, and build something bigger.... Then daily takings are very important.
Neither approach is right or wrong, but they do make your focus different :)
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I am not going to tell anyone here what I earn. That is between me and the tax man. I fail to understand why this question continues to come up, other than give some the opportunity to puff out the chest and say that they are doing better than whoever, or if we are earning less we are doing something wrong.
I am in this game to earn a wage and support my family. Nothing more, nothing less. I earn what I need to earn and I work in my own way to achieve these objectives.
John
If you are in it to make a wage to support your family that's fine and it makes sense that this type of thread isn't interesting for you.
If however you're approaching this industry as a business and are trying to maximise profit, and build something bigger.... Then daily takings are very important.
Neither approach is right or wrong, but they do make your focus different :)
I absolutely agree. What I don't get is why anyone feels the need to disclose their earnings on a public forum. Our aspirations and circumstances all differ, so why should knowledge of each others earnings be of interest to anyone but the one who comes up with the highest figure?
It seems to me that it would be of more benefit to those who are trying to maximize their profits by looking at their current income to expenses ratio, and looking at ways of increasing the percentage thereof, and asking the knowledgeable guys on here how they do it, rather than state their actual income publicly which is meaningless unless accompanied by actual outgoings.
John
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Has anyone actually stated what their income is?
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Yes Cozy did. He charges £30 for a half hour in the back of a black cab. He does supply condoms for that price apparently though.
Each to their own, I guess windows isn't the only thing Cozy licks.
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That's just a smokescreen to cover the fact that you watch Tom Daley on TV. Going cottaging later are ya? ;D
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Oh, and I earn a wedge every day, and have 3 houses, 7 vans and a huge willy.
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a huge willy.
That's not what your businessmen 'friends' say is it?
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The Cozy and Bateman show
Definately would be a ratings winner on xmas day ;D
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Oh, and I earn a wedge every day, and have 3 houses, 7 vans and a huge willy.
;D ;D ;D
Someone will be along in a minute to say they have more than one of the latter! ;D ;D ;D
John
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It is easy to get bogged down doing underpriced work with an unimpressive daily total for the hours worked and effort put in,threads like this let you know window cleaning doesn`t need to be like that.