Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tom20001 on January 02, 2014, 03:13:15 pm
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Alright guys happy new year to all
I fitted my first wfp system to my van over hols but as topic title I find it a little awkward filling vessels. I take the lid off which is connected to the filterband take it out while filling vessel. However it seems hard to get lid screwed back down as filter has to push through the resin.
If this the way its supposed to be its nothing major but am I missing something?
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Put some water on the vessel before you push the riser tube and head in
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OP - don't fill the resin beyond much more than half full.
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Put some water on the vessel before you push the riser tube and head in
+1 but make sure its R.O water!!
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Rubbish. Any water will do. Flush as per normal.
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Fill resin up to required level in DI up to the neck of vessel , Then put most of the water needed in vessel as required to make it really easy to replace top .
Otherwise it will be a pain and you could end up cross threading top and end up with the vessel leaking when filtering water . Mike
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I used to find it a real chore filling the di, now I just pour resin in to a clean bucket and add enough ro water just to make it a fluid consistency rather than a dry sticky mess and pour it in to the di vessel (dilute again anything left in the bucket and top up the vessel) with water in the vessel the riser fits back in a lot easier and its a lot less messy. ;)
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I used to find it a real chore filling the di, now I just pour resin in to a clean bucket and add enough ro water just to make it a fluid consistency rather than a dry sticky mess and pour it in to the di vessel (dilute again anything left in the bucket and top up the vessel) with water in the vessel the riser fits back in a lot easier and its a lot less messy. ;)
That's how I've been doing it for ages.
I use an old rectangular washing up bowl as the corner of the bowl will fit easily over the top of the DI Vessel and makes it easy to pour.
It's faster and easier.
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That's how I've been doing it for ages.
It's faster and easier.
Tell me about it !
To think that for ages I would try and funnel it in or make a scoop from a large plastic bottle and end up with a load of resin on the floor :P
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im about to start a di system so reading this with interest!
ive been told traffic cones are good for filling?
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Thanks guys yet again you guys come up trumps, ty :)
Is it ok to just use tap water to dilute resin when filling then just flush out ?
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Thanks guys yet again you guys come up trumps, ty :)
Is it ok to just use tap water to dilute resin when filling then just flush out ?
Yes
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1 - Any water will do, use pure if you want to be really picky.
2 - Yes a traffic cone would work fine, as would using a table spoon although you would be there a while. ;D
3 - Personally, we fill DI vessels 3/4 full of resin, then add water.
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A window cleaner i know used to remove the top from the di tank, but leaving the tube thing in there, he said it was easier that way, but i cant imagine how?!. When i used di, i just took the whole lot out, rinsed the tank with some water (probably not necessary), filled it up (just over 3/4) with dry resin, then put water in (just normal tap water as i was di only at the time) till you can see it on top of the resin (dont fill the water right up as when you put the tube back in it will spill water and resin out all over the place) the water makes it easy to get the tube back in, assuming you havnt put too much resin in. I found it difficult at times to get the thread right, so what i started doing was to push down on the top whilst turning it backwards till you feel it 'drop' on to the thread, then you know it is sitting correctly and you can tighten it up without fear of damaging the thread.
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good info simon!
when you fill it with water do you fill the sides or the centre where the tube goes down or does it not matter?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VgTTUtJKA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chjzfvxZDJI
method to do the same with riser tube in place .
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Good post ;D
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The bloke in the second video gives me the creeps for some reason , not sure why .
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good info simon!
when you fill it with water do you fill the sides or the centre where the tube goes down or does it not matter?
As far as i am aware, it doesnt matter. But if separating the top from the tube and leaving it in place, like the window cleaner i mentioned, i would be concerned about resin going down the tube!
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in the video he tapes off the tube , puts the cone in then pours in the resin , pulls tape off and fits top bit .
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we split the top from the white filter , tape over the hole then put the filler back in the empity di , put a funnel in the top , with the white taped filter in the middle of the funnel then just pour the reins in until its nearly full , then take the tape off and then screw the lid on with no problems and no mess
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Only just watched the video's just now, and neither of them looks particularly quick. The 1st one because of faffing about with a scoop (i thought it telling that we didnt see the whole filling procedure, but instead, 'cut' to the end to see the riser and top being put back on!). The 2nd because of faffing about taping up the end of the tube. Also, with the 2nd video, while the traffic cone is a good method, having the tube still in there is going to restrict how fast you can fill up. When i was di only i often had to change resin midway through the day, so being able to do it quickly was important. I could certainly do it much quicker than either of these 2!. Incidentally, rather than a funnel, or traffic cone, i used a thing i got a b&q (sorry, not sure what it was called!), it was something to do with guttering. Imagine a short section of drain pipe (about 3" diameter) which flares out to a rectangle shape about 8"x6". The drain pipe end was a perfect fit into the top of my di tank (ensuring the maximum flow of resin) and the other end, being flared, meant virtually no spillage. One last thing though, make sure there is no resin on the thread of the tank before putting the top back on!.
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Incidentally, rather than a funnel, or traffic cone, i used a thing i got a b&q (sorry, not sure what it was called!), it was something to do with guttering. Imagine a short section of drain pipe (about 3" diameter) which flares out to a rectangle shape about 8"x6". The drain pipe end was a perfect fit into the top of my di tank (ensuring the maximum flow of resin) and the other end, being flared, meant virtually no spillage. One last thing though, make sure there is no resin on the thread of the tank before putting the top back on!.
Do you mean something like this.......
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hopper-black-68mm/13847?kpid=13847&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=CIf5jLHF4rsCFZLKtAodsg4AFw
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Incidentally, rather than a funnel, or traffic cone, i used a thing i got a b&q (sorry, not sure what it was called!), it was something to do with guttering. Imagine a short section of drain pipe (about 3" diameter) which flares out to a rectangle shape about 8"x6". The drain pipe end was a perfect fit into the top of my di tank (ensuring the maximum flow of resin) and the other end, being flared, meant virtually no spillage. One last thing though, make sure there is no resin on the thread of the tank before putting the top back on!.
Do you mean something like this.......
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hopper-black-68mm/13847?kpid=13847&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=CIf5jLHF4rsCFZLKtAodsg4AFw
It is similar, but the thing i got tapered out, more like a funnel so the resin flows down it easy. With that thing in your link, i think you would find the resin collecting in the corners, as they are squared off. I just had a look on b&q website, but cant see it there either. Found something very similar on ebay though, but as i am computer illiterate i'm afraid i dont know how to post a link!. It is a 'marley rainwater hopper rh252', the seller's name is 'surplus 775' , and is £12.99, which seems to be pretty cheap compared to the others listed. That is as close to what i have as i can see, hope that helps :)
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mark munro has a video where he uses the funnel but without the riser tube in , very quick.
personally i leave the tube in and still fill up quickly and find it less hassle.
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I had an old 2.5l garden sprayer with a knackered pump and trigger. Slung the pump and trigger and cut the bottom off the container.....works for me :)......(one of these was about £1.50 in Wilkos)........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garden-Water-Spray-Hand-Held-Pump-Pressure-Sprayer-Bottle-Watering-Weed-Killer-/150741239784