Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Darran Pryce on December 31, 2013, 06:29:57 pm
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Pulled in a nice contract for the NHS in Leeds. Used low moisture. Sprayed down with Dynamall (with two scoops of SPM), agitated with my Oreck and the carpets came up great! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1388514594_NHS MEETING ROOM BEFORE AND AFTER DEC 2013 COPYRIGHT.jpg)
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Why use dynamall if your going to use spm ?
We did a full college with just spm lot cheaper than the other
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I know what you mean, its either. More for the smell and stain guard which spm doesn't offer!
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Nice one Darran.
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Great job .
I think lm is all about making carpets look uniform even if that means blending in areas that look cleaner . As we spot imperfections and not levels of soiling that isn't visible to the eye.
Only cc are bothered about soil we can't see .
I've had some great comments after lm more so than hw but I still hw 90% of carpets it's a mental problem as generally lm is quicker gives good visual results and is dry in 30 mins with a blower or nice breeze .
As a customer it ticks more boxes than hw .
But I'm sure with so proffesional help I will get over it and offer hw more as long as they don't say what do you recommend .
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What can I say! I also use the D product in the void that I do! But with a wider machine the saving in time is more cost effective to me.
Do you think adding SPM as booster helps or is it false economy?
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What can I say! I also use the D product in the void that I do! But with a wider machine the saving in time is more cost effective to me.
Do you think adding SPM as booster helps or is it false economy?
Len depends what Void your are in at the time.
Happy new year Len and go steady with that Malt
Neil
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What can I say! I also use the D product in the void that I do! But with a wider machine the saving in time is more cost effective to me.
Do you think adding SPM as booster helps or is it false economy?
Not sure, I have used it with and without and I personally think it boosts it when the carpets are so pad like this one was. If SPM had stain guard and smelled good then no doubt SPM would be my number 1. Void properties all day long with D, but we are also doing more and more properties just with D and agitation with such good results. Once again its the stain guard that I like, so does the custy!
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Darren,
You have to be mighty careful when selling any stain guarding product, even conventional ones, as they do have limitations and if it doesn't do what you said it would your reputation could be shot. Even conventional stain guarding products can leave customers expecting their carpets are fully protected from stains when nothing could be further from the truth, so you e got to be really careful about how you sell it. If you're mixing SPM with dynamall you could well be undermining its stain blocking properties as the addition of another chemical changes the properties of both and leaves you with an unknown quantity.
Simon
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Top job Darren results speak for themselves - happy customer and more work ;)
Oreck and SPM are king - though 17inch rotary would have done it in less than half the time
Dynamall not bad either though massively expensive compared to SPM
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Why not just put some fragrance product in with the spm?
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Il bet any cleaning product would give the same result on that carpet with those stains ...
SPM ... washing soda and bleach cleans good ... any housewife for the last 50 years will tell u that :)
Dynamal ... looking at the data sheet ... its good ol detergent too .. non ionic surfactant ... builders ... bleach ... bit o stainguard added .
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Bottom line is the carpets came up trumps with one happy NHS executive. More work. Yes I use SPM with smelly stuff, but I like the stain guard. I never sell myself and say this will stop the stains from penetrating the fibres but it does "help" to protect them. No complaints with the mixture and since using Dynamall even with extraction machines custy loves it, with it's "long dwindling" smell!
Everyone cleans different and it's what works for them on each different job with the right tool, and of not forgetting how confident the operator is!
BTW Thank's Si Niks, hope your well. :-*
These are some more pics from the job....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1388581056_NHS Building Before and After COPYRIGHT.jpg)
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Nice job Darran. Sounds like custy happy and no doubt you will get Plenty more work.
Oreck with spm or dynamall works a treat. If you get any work you need a hand with call me
I'd be glad to help. Happy new year to you all
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Will do Scott. Spoke to the exec and requested some business cards, and gave me an email, so lets see what comes from it.
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Good old Cimex...
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1388674536_AL 14 12 13 small2.jpg)
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Hey Garry
Nearly as good as ours :-)
:-*
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was it just that one room you cleaned?
would have taken a long time with the Oreck. Are they not only 13"?
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Garry,
What chemical did you use on that. Impressive result BTW.
I'm getting a new Cimex and going to get stuck into encapping this year.
Simon
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was it just that one room you cleaned?
would have taken a long time with the Oreck. Are they not only 13"?
They are mate, but you still fly with them. We have the 17" Victor sprites too. We did 12000 square feet with two orecks in 4 hours! We could have used the Sprites but due to the offices being occupied with staff, PC and other stuff, we want for the smaller option.
Great machines the orecks.
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Garry,
What chemical did you use on that. Impressive result BTW.
I'm getting a new Cimex and going to get stuck into encapping this year.
Simon
See Simon the future is moist and not sopping wet ;D ;D ;D
If you need any advice with this cleaning with a lack of liquid..... you know where I am ;D ;D
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Thanks, Hector, helpful as usual. ;D
BTW, Happy New Year
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This is typical of NHS, according to CQC standards they are supposed to be HWE,
i have cleaning contracts with several surgeries, and have to clean to the CQC guidelines. When I mention the carpets need cleaned they suddenly have no money to pay.
Not knocking anyone who encaps, just bl**dy beauracatic system, hypocrits, rant over ;D
I always hwe then put a bonnet over them :)
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Thanks, Hector, helpful as usual. ;D
BTW, Happy New Year
Just keeping the standards up for this year..
happy new year to you too mate.. ;D
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Simon
Pilelifter first (which removed quite a lot of muck).
Encap Punch as a prespray (not too much) followed by Releasit Basic through the machine.
One wet pass (trigger on) followed by about four dry / scrubbing passes.
To be honest, I was not sure if it would do the job but was pleasantly surprised. The soiling was actually worse than the photograph suggests.
As a "belt and braces" measure, I always use a turbo dryer when I do LM cleaning.
On New Year's Eve I ran out of Releasit and used Solutions' Fusion Clean, with very similar results.
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The bottom line is the finished product! Whether it's bonneting or HWE, long as the custy is happy and you let them know beforehand how the carpets are going to be cleaned then as far as I'm concerned both parties are happy.
We don't bonnet every job as we all know each job is different. If someone has a 25K truck mounted system, or someone has a 4k or even £500 machine ,down to someone bonneting, each job is different, and I will not knock anyone for what method they choose to use. It's personal choice. Some jobs we price up, we know straight away HWE job, others bonneting.