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Title: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 28, 2013, 01:42:39 pm
hi can any one tell me
would you buy work for £20,000 for £4,600 a mouth would you pay that??
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 28, 2013, 01:46:00 pm
It would depend what the work would entail?

Is it £4,600 of work that is all £5 customers and a nightmare, or is it made up of varied work with some commercial or more expensive domestic?

I think either way it should be no more than £15,000.

Must be one heck of a round if it's worth £4,600 a month though.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 28, 2013, 01:57:28 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: concept on December 28, 2013, 01:58:00 pm
Rob, bell me sometime during the week.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 28, 2013, 01:59:50 pm
Rob, bell me sometime during the week.

whats ur number pal
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: windymiller on December 28, 2013, 02:48:29 pm
2 to 3 times the monthly value, 4 times at a push but no more than that.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Jay Le Huray on December 28, 2013, 03:15:20 pm
seems a bit high to me
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: dave0123 on December 28, 2013, 03:19:19 pm
Does seem a little expensive for just "jobs" in effect a list of addresses, maybe you could work the round for few weeks with the person selling to see if its something you think's worth the while.. or give an offer in.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: kempy on December 28, 2013, 03:50:43 pm
If trusted , £12,000 tops
It's a lot of cash , but £12k is a good price for both seller and buyer
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: 8weekly on December 28, 2013, 03:58:35 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: kempy on December 28, 2013, 04:01:54 pm
If you want it then
Pay £5000 upfront with him working it with you etc

Then pay £2000 a month over the next 3 months

£11k max ?
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: robbo333 on December 28, 2013, 04:04:11 pm
How many people are cleaning it?
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 28, 2013, 05:22:11 pm
man and wife thats it
i was looking at it but to much a bit i was thinking.
i know works out at £3,900 per mouth
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: PoleKing on December 28, 2013, 05:24:29 pm
Supply and demand...
If it's still available in spring, offer him £10k
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 28, 2013, 05:30:05 pm
he wants to move to hes family said
i cant be ass with it
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: PoleKing on December 28, 2013, 05:34:04 pm
he wants to move to hes family said
i cant be ass with it

If he's moving-he'll not have a lot of choice (unless he's relying on the round money to fund the move)
He will have to sell it to whoever has the most cash at the time.
Cash being the key. He'll (probably) not want it 'worked off' if he's moving area.
If you've got £10k cash-I'd offer it.
It's a pretty sweet deal at that.
Leave it on the table (the deal, not the cash), if no-one has a better offer by the time he's upping sticks you'll be on to a winner.
Of a better offer comes along-you're not that bothered anyway...
Win-win in my eyes
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: windymiller on December 29, 2013, 12:27:05 am
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
No one works 52 weeks a year, with bad weather inc holls etc 44 to 48 weeks a year :) at best :)
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: supernova77 on December 29, 2013, 12:51:46 am
If it was worth £4600 a month and the average house clean price was £25 - £35 then I would pay more than £20k (if I had the money).

With an average price of £9 / £10 a clean I wouldn't touch it.

Andy
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: lal on December 29, 2013, 11:13:31 am
If it was worth £4600 a month and the average house clean price was £25 - £35 then I would pay more than £20k (if I had the money).

With an average price of £9 / £10 a clean I wouldn't touch it.

Andy

+1
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: paul marshall on December 29, 2013, 01:07:13 pm
at the end off the day theoreticly [ spelt wrong ] once the 20 grand was paid off someone would have a guaranteed income of 1000 pound a week for the rest of there working life , that someone isn't going to be me but bloody hell I wish it was  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: PoleKing on December 29, 2013, 01:14:01 pm
at the end off the day theoreticly [ spelt wrong ] once the 20 grand was paid off someone would have a guaranteed income of 1000 pound a week for the rest of there working life , that someone isn't going to be me but bloody hell I wish it was  :-[ :-[

Not guaranteed bud.
It's only goodwill.
See your point though.
The tough bit is coming up with the money if you haven't got it.
If you need to borrow to fund it it could be tight for a while.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 29, 2013, 09:16:42 pm
i may just buy it say no more about it
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Dougaldum on December 29, 2013, 10:32:56 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
I suppose every job you do his £25 plus won't get out of bed unless your. Earning £350 a day i've heard it all be four Jackanory
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: 8weekly on December 29, 2013, 10:43:20 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
I suppose every job you do his £25 plus won't get out of bed unless your. Earning £350 a day i've heard it all be four Jackanory
Nothing wrong with £3,900 a month, it's just that the seller claimed £4,400.. But besides, the average job is £9 (and regardless of what you believe, my average is more than double that) and two of them work it. It might be in good round in some places, but around here the work is underpriced.

I very rarely earn £350 a day. I normally stop at about £220. 4 hours work is plenty.  ;)
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 30, 2013, 11:07:30 am
so would u buy it
as i been talking to the seller said £300 is on 3 months
 
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: PoleKing on December 30, 2013, 03:13:54 pm
so would u buy it
as i been talking to the seller said £300 is on 3 months
 

Doesn't matter if we would bud.
It's if you would...
All hangs on your cash and how much you need the work.
Do you NEED it or would it be nice to have.
NEED? Decision made innit?
Nice to have-if you've got cash just sitting there, go in low, really low and see what happens.
If the fella is moving, he'll have to sell or he'll lose it anyway.
Better to get something for it.

Me-I'd leave it until the last week or so and offer him £6k.
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 30, 2013, 04:06:11 pm
Taking away the abvious risk factors lets assume its a smooth sale no canceling etc
So lets focus on finacial side only

Lets say its a £9 average but lets also say the £3900 can be cleaned in a hard months work , it would still be worth it as if you have staff and pay them £20k a year you still have a decent profit
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 30, 2013, 04:50:38 pm
Taking away the abvious risk factors lets assume its a smooth sale no canceling etc
So lets focus on finacial side only

Lets say its a £9 average but lets also say the £3900 can be cleaned in a hard months work , it would still be worth it as if you have staff and pay them £20k a year you still have a decent profit
  would you pay it then?
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: kempy on December 30, 2013, 05:09:02 pm
Good post the above .
A good angle to look at it from
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Dougaldum on December 30, 2013, 08:35:35 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
I suppose every job you do his £25 plus won't get out of bed unless your. Earning £350 a day i've heard it all be four Jackanory
Nothing wrong with £3,900 a month, it's just that the seller claimed £4,400.. But besides, the average job is £9 (and regardless of what you believe, my average is more than double that) and two of them work it. It might be in good round in some places, but around here the work is underpriced.

I very rarely earn £350 a day. I normally stop at about £220. 4 hours work is plenty.  ;)
you will find next Year 2014 people will be more stretched than ever there will be more window cleaners finding it very hard
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Robert hawes on December 30, 2013, 11:00:18 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is




that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
I suppose every job you do his £25 plus won't get out of bed unless your. Earning £350 a day i've heard it all be four Jackanory
Nothing wrong with £3,900 a month, it's just that the seller claimed £4,400.. But besides, the average job is £9 (and regardless of what you believe, my average is more than double that) and two of them work it. It might be in good round in some places, but around here the work is underpriced.

I very rarely earn £350 a day. I normally stop at about £220. 4 hours work is plenty.  ;)
you will find next Year 2014 people will be more stretched than ever there will be more window cleaners finding it very hard
so woul u buy it???
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: ben M on December 30, 2013, 11:06:34 pm
its all Domestlc work
A large established traditionally cleaned window cleaning round
 no three storey work all nice private work total on the book is £4.400 in total 490 customers 73 of them are bungalows allowing for bi monthly cleans this brings me and my wife £900 plus per week

thats what the round is

that's only £3,900 per month working 52 weeks at less than £9 average a job. Personally I wouldn't touch it as it is all underpriced.
I suppose every job you do his £25 plus won't get out of bed unless your. Earning £350 a day i've heard it all be four Jackanory
Nothing wrong with £3,900 a month, it's just that the seller claimed £4,400.. But besides, the average job is £9 (and regardless of what you believe, my average is more than double that) and two of them work it. It might be in good round in some places, but around here the work is underpriced.

I very rarely earn £350 a day. I normally stop at about £220. 4 hours work is plenty.  ;)
you will find next Year 2014 people will be more stretched than ever there will be more window cleaners finding it very hard
2014 would be better! the economy would be even better than 2013, 2014 would be great, except if you live in the north maybe  ;)
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on December 31, 2013, 12:39:08 am
If it was worth £4600 a month and the average house clean price was £25 - £35 then I would pay more than £20k (if I had the money).

With an average price of £9 / £10 a clean I wouldn't touch it.

Andy
like what we did and worth every penny now looking for more
Title: Re: buying work
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 31, 2013, 09:37:23 am
What Andy* said - plus:-

It's a trad. round - is it a dead end? £9 average and doing it trad. = labour intensive. Try to convert to wfp and a new owner, how much you gonna lose? 30%?

Also how many messers? If it's got low priced three monthlies in the mix how untrained are these custies?

3X for trad rounds "rule of thumb" is there for a reason.

Me? No ...

Title: Re: buying work
Post by: martin hulstone on December 31, 2013, 12:03:57 pm
a round is only worth what somebody is prepared to pay, just like a house. I paid 6 times for work at one time as my area is saturated with window cleaners and I needed the work as the missus became pregnant. I trusted the guy, knew the work generated a good hourly rate, so for me it was worth it. I even paid 10 times for some cream commercial work and im still doing it years later with no regrets of the price I paid.