Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clever Forum Name on December 14, 2013, 12:15:41 pm
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Undecided on this one as I still have external van ports. Does everyone here who has a fixed reel work with the doors open.
I have seen a few vans with rollers in the floor that is something I can't do at the moment.
What about trapping the hose in the door and closing it like that?
Door padlock and work with slightly ajar.....
Just a bit ???
I do carry a lot more than ya standard WC it seems :(
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We leave one door a jar, although im thinking of fitting outside port, but not sure I want to damage new van ;D
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Don't want to keep lugging reel tho!
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All time never had a problem
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All time never had a problem
Wide open or ajar?
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New shape Dispatch if you leave the back doors open then you can reach in from
the side doors and open the front.
This would mean if the van was stolen then my insurance wouldn't pay out. ( Have checked this out )
So for me I have no choice but to work with all the doors locked.
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Another option is to mount the reel on the outside of the back door as you have outside ports fitted.
I've seen a few vans knocking about like that ;D
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Another option is to mount the reel on the outside of the back door as you have outside ports fitted.
I've seen a few vans knocking about like that ;D
Temporary solution as changing van, so dont want to wreck it ;)
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New shape Dispatch if you leave the back doors open then you can reach in from
the side doors and open the front.
This would mean if the van was stolen then my insurance wouldn't pay out. ( Have checked this out )
So for me I have no choice but to work with all the doors locked.
I am ok on that front due to bulkhead and i can remote lock front vs back/side
I am gonna have a look today and see if i can close the door on the hose :)
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I have been working with reel inside for years, don't like taking reel in and out all day and outside ports get all dirty and frozen in winter, on my new Belingo the doors have never trapped the hose but i do use mirobore all locked up when working never had a problem
Gazza
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I have been working with reel inside for years, don't like taking reel in and out all day and outside ports get all dirty and frozen in winter, on my new Belingo the doors have never trapped the hose but i do use mirobore all locked up when working never had a problem
Gazza
And you would basically reel out the hose, go back to van if needed trap hose and lock van up yeah?
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Wide open as mines a lift up
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I work slightly differently.
I use 50m of Aquadaptor red pole hose as my main hose on the reel. The reel is secured to the floor of van (but can be removed in seconds) and I can shut and lock the back doors on the hose without any loss of water flow. Also it's amazingly light to use and easy to reel in.
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I have my hose reel roof mounted over my tank aswell as my gas boiler at the side door as well so there is no way anyone can get in through door. It is all very compact as my controller and battery are in the same area.
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I have never worked with ports, and always worked with the doors open. Never had any problems, even when I have been parked up with school kids walking past. Maybe I'm just lucky?!.
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We worked with van ports for a few months when we converted but the constant lifting in and out along with winding at a low level nearly killed us!!! We've since built a platform to fix the reels in and its much better reeling in!!
Also for over a year and a half never ever had issues with leaving the doors open to work
In fact sometimes when we jump back in the van we realise we have left the keys in the ignition still (van off) and all has been fine. ;D
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/adaily/Mobile%20Uploads/20131214_155050_zps9631829c.jpg)
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I heard of a window cleaners van being nicked recently. The first thing the chap noticed whilst working round the back of a property was that the flow of water had stopped. He went to investigate why and found no van then realised not only was it left unlocked but he had left the key in the ignition too.
Needless to say insurance companies don't pay out on claims like this.
We worked with van ports for a few months when we converted but the constant lifting in and out along with winding at a low level nearly killed us!!! We've since built a platform to fix the reels in and its much better reeling in!!
Also for over a year and a half never ever had issues with leaving the doors open to work
In fact sometimes when we jump back in the van we realise we have left the keys in the ignition still (van off) and all has been fine. ;D
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/adaily/Mobile%20Uploads/20131214_155050_zps9631829c.jpg)
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I leave one back door open, for the reel etc. then shut one over, and lock. I've got a bulkhead, so it Means that if anyone wanted steal anything, poles etc, it would be hard to manouver the poles out there rack.
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Thing is we all get complacent at times leaving our vans not locked up but it’s an invitation for scumbags to nick the van and/or contence.
My mate had his genny stolen from the back of his van as he left the doors open whilst carrying his plastering gear inside a property. Was only gone less than 5 mins and needles to say he was gutted
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We leave one door a jar, although im thinking of fitting outside port, but not sure I want to damage new van ;D
Get a Pure Freedom port: http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/outside-van-port-panel-p-337.html
You would have to drill thru the floor on one corner, but grommets can fill these if and when you come to sell.
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I leave one back door open, for the reel etc. then shut one over, and lock. I've got a bulkhead, so it Means that if anyone wanted steal anything, poles etc, it would be hard to manouver the poles out there rack.
What van have you got for one door to lock?
I do the same on a Trafic.
I've set the pole rack (guttering ;D) so that 2 of the 3 poles I carry are hidden behind the closed door, along with the gas bottle & L5.
From a casual glance all a passerby would see is the tank and reel.
But if a scumbag opened the door he'd see what was in there...
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Yep that's what I have pure freedom ports
When gas on have a door open
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I leave one back door open, for the reel etc. then shut one over, and lock. I've got a bulkhead, so it Means that if anyone wanted steal anything, poles etc, it would be hard to manouver the poles out there rack.
What van have you got for one door to lock?
I do the same on a Trafic.
I've set the pole rack (guttering ;D) so that 2 of the 3 poles I carry are hidden behind the closed door, along with the gas bottle & L5.
From a casual glance all a passerby would see is the tank and reel.
But if a scumbag opened the door he'd see what was in there...
Vw caddy mate.
When I lock the doors the left hand door stays locked hiding poles etc, then right door open just for reel.
Works pretty well.
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You guys that work with outside ports, do you lose a load of water every time you disconnect the reel?
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If I'm out of sight of van then it is always locked (no exceptions). I have had two attempts at someone trying to break into my van during mid day whilst working out of sight of my van in affluent areas so doors always shut and locked and alarmed, no brainer really !!!!
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You guys that work with outside ports, do you lose a load of water every time you disconnect the reel?
No. Pure Freedom ones are Hozelock type, so same as you lose when you disconnect your garden hose from the tap.
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I built a vertical partition in my van just in front of my hosereel so there was nothing that anyone could get at when I'm working away from the van while the tailgate is open, except my ladders which are easy to replace.
You can see this on my website front page.
www.daveswindowcleaning.co.uk
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a bulk head is probably the easiest way as dave said I used to work at a place in bilston who did them called barton handling check them out
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I built a vertical partition in my van just in front of my hosereel so there was nothing that anyone could get at when I'm working away from the van while the tailgate is open, except my ladders which are easy to replace.
You can see this on my website front page.
www.daveswindowcleaning.co.uk
Yeah funny you should mention this, i decided on this over the xmas break. :) Thanks for the pics (via www) top man :)
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Im currently building my first system and im just going to drill a hole in the floor and fit roller guiide externally to help feed the pole to me, so no van ports the reel just flys out floor of van soo van locked at all times ;) tho im a rookie so we will see how it works
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Why be cutting holes in the side and bottom of your vans when all you need is some pole hose and microbore/minbore female end stop fittings .
One end connected to pump outlet or DI outlet (depending on set up ) then other end connected to hose reel outside Van or Truck doors shut locked and secure .
Done it this way with my truck for over 2 yrs now its simple straight forward and cheap . Mike
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Putting small hole in the van easiest way for me as I dont want to be taking hose reel out of van at every job
Each to their own I might think differently in few months but for now its the best option
Happy new years to all
Bout to crack open the vino here ;)
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Recently I had the ropes on my roof bars nicked! Fortunately, I knew who the culprit was (a young lad of around 12 years of age), and when I told his dad he retrieved them for me. He also pumped my tyres up that the lad had let down too. I wince at the thought of the discipline that was administered (Irish traveller style)!
I was in the same area today. The young lad was as good as gold and we even had a bit of a chat! I still locked up the van though!
John
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Recently I had the ropes on my roof bars nicked! Fortunately, I knew who the culprit was (a young lad of around 12 years of age), and when I told his dad he retrieved them for me. He also pumped my tyres up that the lad had let down too. I wince at the thought of the discipline that was administered (Irish traveller style)!
I was in the same area today. The young lad was as good as gold and we even had a bit of a chat! I still locked up the van though!
John
Ropes? Left the ladders?
I got some if those spinney hook things.
£20-well happy.
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10 years of working with van doors wide open never a problem at all
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Recently I had the ropes on my roof bars nicked! Fortunately, I knew who the culprit was (a young lad of around 12 years of age), and when I told his dad he retrieved them for me. He also pumped my tyres up that the lad had let down too. I wince at the thought of the discipline that was administered (Irish traveller style)!
I was in the same area today. The young lad was as good as gold and we even had a bit of a chat! I still locked up the van though!
John
Ropes? Left the ladders?
I got some if those spinney hook things.
£20-well happy.
No, I had the ladders with me. I only noticed the ropes were gone when I tried to tie the ladders back on! I had to laugh, but as said, the boy's dad got them back and probably gave his son 'what for' later!
If I get some ladder clamps I reckon on getting some good padlocks to go with them!
John
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I've just bought rhino van clamps. There awesome.
Have a look on YouTube if your not sure how they work.
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I've just bought rhino van clamps. There awesome.
Have a look on YouTube if your not sure how they work.
Thanks Jonny.
John
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I work with reel inside van but close van doors either resting on hose or just pinching hose. Works for me.