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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Simon PolarBrite on December 10, 2013, 05:54:31 pm

Title: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Simon PolarBrite on December 10, 2013, 05:54:31 pm
Hi all,

I just wanted to get a chance to reply and explain the situation regarding the tread "Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!" as i never got a chance to before it was locked.

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!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!

Be very carefull when buying items from this company,
what is advertised on there websie is not the product you receive

they sell cheap alternatives

!!!!!!! You have been warned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To cut a long story short Mr South Window Cleaning Ltd bought what he believed to be an Unger scraper after looking at our website.

I picked up the order not noticing that the the picture on our website was out of date (and was of an Unger scraper) and packed the Silverline scraper that we now sell in its place.

The scraper is the same price as the Unger scraper except it comes with 10 spare blades.

After receiving a answer phone message regarding Mr South Window Cleaning Ltd being outraged by the Scraper I gave him a call and offered him the chance to return the scraper for a refund. It was then mentioned that it would cost as much to return the scraper than the original price paid.

I was of the opinion that it wasn't a big issue when the phone conversation ended shortly after that, he did mention he would just chuck it in the bin, so I left it at that until we noticed the strange thread on here.

I would have offered to replace it but as mentioned previously we no longer sell the Unger Scrapers.

If I can help with anything I will try to.

If you have any questions please feel free to message me.

Kind regards,

Simon
PolarBrite
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: paul ette on December 10, 2013, 05:56:45 pm
Lol it's only a scraper not worth moaning about really
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: supernova77 on December 10, 2013, 06:00:42 pm
Quote
Hi all,

I just wanted to get a chance to reply and explain the situation regarding the tread "Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!" as i never got a chance to before it was locked.

Quote
!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!

Be very carefull when buying items from this company,
what is advertised on there websie is not the product you receive

they sell cheap alternatives

!!!!!!! You have been warned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To cut a long story short Mr South Window Cleaning Ltd bought what he believed to be an Unger scraper after looking at our website.

I picked up the order not noticing that the the picture on our website was out of date (and was of an Unger scraper) and packed the Silverline scraper that we now sell in its place.

The scraper is the same price as the Unger scraper except it comes with 10 spare blades.

After receiving a answer phone message regarding Mr South Window Cleaning Ltd being outraged by the Scraper I gave him a call and offered him the chance to return the scraper for a refund. It was then mentioned that it would cost as much to return the scraper than the original price paid.

I was of the opinion that it wasn't a big issue when the phone conversation ended shortly after that, he did mention he would just chuck it in the bin, so I left it at that until we noticed the strange thread on here.

I would have offered to replace it but as mentioned previously we no longer sell the Unger Scrapers.

If I can help with anything I will try to.

If you have any questions please feel free to message me.

Kind regards,

Simon
PolarBrite

Just sounds like "one of those" customers to me!

Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: South Window Cleaning Ltd on December 10, 2013, 06:01:38 pm
sold as unger scraper:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1386698465_633793.jpg)
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 10, 2013, 06:07:43 pm
Christ. Speechless.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 10, 2013, 06:12:02 pm
All that fuss for a poxy £4.99 scraper???

Someone needs to go back on their meds!
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: robert mitchell on December 10, 2013, 06:12:29 pm
sold as unger scraper:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1386698465_633793.jpg)


What exactly is the problem?

The pic was out of date , he apologised and offered you a refund.

sounds like pretty good customer service to me .

Have you never made a mistake?

Remember , the man who never made a mistake , never made anything.

Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Dave Willis on December 10, 2013, 06:18:23 pm
That's shocking! I would be straight on the phone to the Sun.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on December 10, 2013, 06:19:35 pm
Unbeleivable Jeff
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: windiewasher on December 10, 2013, 06:19:53 pm
sold as unger scraper:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1386698465_633793.jpg)

A £4.99 scraper lol
all the fuss over a scraper.Shocking behaviour.
I hope you apologise to polarbrite as they offered your money back.
Classic.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: brad t on December 10, 2013, 06:23:18 pm
MODS ban him for not posting  ;D ;D  ;D

Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: wfp master on December 10, 2013, 06:34:15 pm
scrapping the barrel moaning about a scraper. ;). do the unger ones have go faster stripes.?
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: paul13 on December 10, 2013, 06:40:31 pm
This forum just keeps getting better ;D
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: wfp master on December 10, 2013, 06:41:22 pm
10 spare blades i hope hes ok. ;D that silverline scraper might have cracked him up.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: wfp master on December 10, 2013, 06:45:06 pm
MODS ban him for not posting  ;D ;D  ;D


hes having unger withdrawals.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: rosskesava on December 10, 2013, 06:46:48 pm
I cannot believe that the original complaint was over a scraper?

Sorry Steve from PolarBrite if it's not but is this all a wind up?
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Don Kee on December 10, 2013, 06:48:00 pm
Thats bang out of order having the wrong picture of the scraper...

I'd go on an unger strike.....




Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 10, 2013, 06:49:36 pm
Thats bang out of order having the wrong picture of the scraper...

I'd go on a unger strike.....






Like it lol
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: p1w1 on December 10, 2013, 06:50:54 pm
lol unbelievable what a complete tool  ::)roll..thanks polar brite for clearing that up.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: CleanClear on December 10, 2013, 07:13:57 pm
sold as unger scraper:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1386698465_633793.jpg)


I'm with you, if i ordered a Unger scraper and got that, it would be going back. Actually i would expect it to be collected. Its their mistake (Polarbrites) for putting a wrong photo , description or whatever and to be honest they should have just refunded you with no quibble as its not what you ordered.
    You should of said that in your original post as well its no good giving half a story leaving us all guessing. And, causing Polarbrite to respond here.
 I don't think you handled this well at all, and i don't think Polarbrite have either.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: trippyboy on December 10, 2013, 07:14:13 pm
 Some ppl really enjoy making idiots of themselfs
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: robertphil on December 10, 2013, 07:19:02 pm
the fact he was asked to return it first to then get his refund is proof enuf for me that polarbrite are rogues

 if you run an online catalogue you cannot tell me you dont look at your images -yeh you do , you hoped to make a quick buck selling a cheapo  imitator ,  9 out of 10 buyers would just suck it up
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: G Griffin on December 10, 2013, 07:28:25 pm
I cannot believe that the original complaint was over a scraper?

Sorry Steve from PolarBrite if it's not but is this all a wind up?

Don't you start; it's Simon  ;D.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: South Window Cleaning Ltd on December 10, 2013, 07:39:04 pm
sold as unger scraper:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1386698465_633793.jpg)


I'm with you, if i ordered a Unger scraper and got that, it would be going back. Actually i would expect it to be collected. Its their mistake (Polarbrites) for putting a wrong photo , description or whatever and to be honest they should have just refunded you with no quibble as its not what you ordered.
    You should of said that in your original post as well its no good giving half a story leaving us all guessing. And, causing Polarbrite to respond here.
 I don't think you handled this well at all, and i don't think Polarbrite have either.


This is my point?
they sold an item knowing it was not the one advertised,
why should I have to take time out of my day to go to the post office and pay to return it,
its there attemt to con people with cheap products,

look at it this way if you went to buy a gardiner slx 25 from alex and he sent you a brodex pole you would be unhappy, then when you phoned him he said send it back at your expence and time and i will refund you (same thing)
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: rosskesava on December 10, 2013, 07:43:03 pm
So why didn't you post that information to start with?

Mistakes do happen but I would have expected PolarBrite to pay the return postage as it was their mistake.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: South Window Cleaning Ltd on December 10, 2013, 07:45:38 pm
This is my point?
they sold an item knowing it was not the one advertised,
why should I have to take time out of my day to go to the post office and pay to return it,
its there attemt to con people with cheap products,

look at it this way if you went to buy a gardiner slx 25 from alex and he sent you a brodex pole you would be unhappy, then when you phoned him he said send it back at your expence and time and i will refund you (same thing)

Maybe should of given more info to start with, just very angry with them, and there lack of customer service,
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: SeanK on December 10, 2013, 07:50:46 pm
Your missing the point guys, yes he could have returned it but why should he be out for
postage costs.
I got the same from a company on Amazon, ordered a set of folding ladders.
The set I received wasn't the set advertised. (cheaper version)
Complained and was told if I posted them back then I would get a refund only it was going to
cost £50 to return them with a private courier.
They knew my only option was to keep them as they only cost £100.
In my opinion Polar Brite are in the wrong doesn't matter if its £1 or £100.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Don Kee on December 10, 2013, 07:59:28 pm
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: andyM on December 10, 2013, 07:59:58 pm
I don't know how much South Window Cleaning Ltd. paid for his "Unger Scraper" but the one he was sent is advertised for £2.82 on the Polar Brite website.
Maybe if I were the seller I would of just refunded the money straight away as a gesture of goodwill.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 10, 2013, 08:01:01 pm
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....

I think you may have unger done it with that joke.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Don Kee on December 10, 2013, 08:02:07 pm
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....

I think you may have unger done it with that joke.



 ;D
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Stephen.C on December 10, 2013, 08:02:23 pm
This is my point?
they sold an item knowing it was not the one advertised,
why should I have to take time out of my day to go to the post office and pay to return it,
its there attemt to con people with cheap products,

look at it this way if you went to buy a gardiner slx 25 from alex and he sent you a brodex pole you would be unhappy, then when you phoned him he said send it back at your expence and time and i will refund you (same thing)

Maybe should of given more info to start with, just very angry with them, and there lack of customer service,
Did you know the pubs are still open? chill out man.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Clever Forum Name on December 10, 2013, 08:03:27 pm
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....

I think you may have unger done it with that joke.



 ;D


I need to get a life lol. Sat here laughing at Unger jokes lol
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Don Kee on December 10, 2013, 08:05:32 pm
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....

I think you may have unger done it with that joke.



 ;D


I need to get a life lol. Sat here laughing at Unger jokes lol


I dunno buddy, i'm the one here making them up....

At least you unger stand them


 ;D
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Pro-Smart on December 10, 2013, 08:07:51 pm
This is my point?
they sold an item knowing it was not the one advertised,
why should I have to take time out of my day to go to the post office and pay to return it,
its there attemt to con people with cheap products,

look at it this way if you went to buy a gardiner slx 25 from alex and he sent you a brodex pole you would be unhappy, then when you phoned him he said send it back at your expence and time and i will refund you (same thing)

Maybe should of given more info to start with, just very angry with them, and there lack of customer service,
Did you know the pubs are still open? chill out man.

Cinema's open too - heard the "Unger Games" film is pretty good... Although when you come to watch it, it might turn out to be  Mickey Mouse instead  ;D
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on December 10, 2013, 08:13:27 pm
May only be a scraper but they went about it in a underhand way and fobbed him off.

Very frustrating to be fobbed off by companys like that.

Now we know how they deal with customers I wont ever use them.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: davids3511 on December 10, 2013, 09:24:19 pm
May only be a scraper but they went about it in a underhand way and fobbed him off.

Very frustrating to be fobbed off by companys like that.

Now we know  how they deal with customers I wont ever use them.
I agree, if the had treated him with respect when he complained they wouldn't have got this negative press.   They should have either sent him what he paid for, paid for the return or just refunded and told him to keep it (what I would have done). They treated him with a hint of contempt which you isn't a good sign.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Simon PolarBrite on December 10, 2013, 09:35:00 pm
Good evening,

Just for your information, It was advertised as the following

"Safety Scraper"
"Pocket size holder, blade retracts into holder for safety when not in use. (Not supplied with blades)."

It was not specifically advertised as an Unger Scraper, the picture was the type that Unger, Contico, Hillbrush etc stock.

Below: The type of scraper we used to sell, exactly the same as the Unger scraper.
http://www.conticospraychem.com/DI.php?t=P&l=W&s=2164.jpg (http://www.conticospraychem.com/DI.php?t=P&l=W&s=2164.jpg)

Below: The image that was on the website, again I apologised for the image being wrong and updated it as soon as he notified me. In hindsight I should have phoned him before and given the option of a different scraper instead of just sending it out, maybe then I would have avoided all the drama.
http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/image/cache/data/product/safety-scraper-500x500.jpg (http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/image/cache/data/product/safety-scraper-500x500.jpg)

From a personal point of view its difficult to keep up with all 536+ products online and make sure they are the correct price, description, image all of the time. Even manufacturers will slightly change a design and then not inform the distributor before they send the product out, does that mean they are out to con us?

If it was me personally I would probably be irritated that it was the wrong type, however as they are the same price, both do the same job and being offered the option of a a refund I don't think I would be to upset about it.

In short I have learned from this innocent mistake and can only apologise once again.


Kind regards,

Simon
PolarBrite
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: Dave Willis on December 10, 2013, 09:46:53 pm
Considering the piffling amount of money here why did you just not send the correct one out or just cancel the payment as a good will gesture?

I think you both need your heads banged together to be honest  ;D
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: rosskesava on December 10, 2013, 10:02:48 pm
I always curious as to why companies don't refund the postage especially when it's their mistake and I think that is part of the issue even though it's a small amount.

It's good that Simon replied though and for once it's nice to read that someone in a company admits they made a mistake albeit an innocent one.



Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: richard groves on December 11, 2013, 12:45:44 am
All sounds a bit unger hand to me....

I think you may have unger done it with that joke.



 ;D


I need to get a life lol. Sat here laughing at Unger jokes lol


I dunno buddy, i'm the one here making them up....

At least you unger stand them


 ;D
If you think that's funny , you guys should meet my mate stanley, he'd have you in stitches
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: pt on December 12, 2013, 02:07:42 pm
Now i know why I only visit this site every couple of month.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: SeanK on December 12, 2013, 02:38:44 pm
I always curious as to why companies don't refund the postage especially when it's their mistake and I think that is part of the issue even though it's a small amount.

It's good that Simon replied though and for once it's nice to read that someone in a company admits they made a mistake albeit an innocent one.




They don't refund because they know as its a small amount the customer will take it no further
and until forums like this and others came along they could get away with it.
I look at it this way if they are that miserable with a small amount then what would it take to get a larger
amount back.
To many good customer friendly companies out there to waste money on the like of this one.
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: robertphil on December 12, 2013, 02:44:09 pm
bring back the birch
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: G.W.C on December 12, 2013, 04:56:36 pm
window cleaning warehouse has just done the exact same thing to me.
ordered a charger for my backpack,they sent a different one to the pic they had on site.
I called them to get it sorted and they agreed to refund me INC P+P if I posted it back.
received the refund today without P+P lol.
they can keep the £3.90
I will not be shopping there again
Title: Re: RE: Polar Brite !!! Warning !!!!!
Post by: South Window Cleaning Ltd on December 12, 2013, 05:13:27 pm
So MR polar Brite started this post to be little me !

Best he reads all the comments as most agree with me,
its not the amount, (its only a couple of pounds) its the fact I have to return it at my cost

Think your be littleing of me has back fired,

should of just refund,

and I am about to buy a new gutter vac system dont think I will be buying it from this lot (along with some of the other cleaners that have commented)