Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: South Window Cleaning Ltd on December 08, 2013, 11:03:09 am
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What has happened to this forum ?
when I joined in 2010 it was full of very helpful people giving good advice,
But in the last 6 -8 months it seems to be full of new menbers all talking Bull S**t and going on about how great they are,
how much money they earn, then in the next post they have no money to buy a £2 part etc
All they seem to do is put people down, slag people off
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE CARES HOW BIG YOUR HEAD IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This forum is to help others not for blowing your own trumpet,
some of you need to spend more time running your own business then worrying about what everyone else is doing ?
If you have nothing good to say then say nothing
I think its about time admin stepped in and sorted this forum out,
if they dont I will name and shame the ones that continue to do this ?
You have all the gob on this forum but dont put up your contact info or company name etc
if you were as good as you say you are and had nothing to hide why hide your info
NOTE TO ADMIN : all members contact info shoud be public as its a open forum this info should be available to all
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With you on that one south.....
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If you have nothing good to say then say nothing
Ahem.
Matt 7:5
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This forum has always been the same, a bit of pack mentality comes in when something different is suggested.
Look at WindowWashers, one of the most helpful and genuine blokes on here and off here, yet he was constantly hounded, resulting in him losing his account, even though he had been here for many years and assisted many people, he was rounded up by the mob, and had enough.
I've closed my account on here before due to a spat with a canvasser, and now I rarely post, as genuine advice seems lost on some people, and others try to belittle it.
Best just lurking now, saves having an opinion, or having to help!
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This forum has always been the same, a bit of pack mentality comes in when something different is suggested.
Look at WindowWashers, one of the most helpful and genuine blokes on here and off here, yet he was constantly hounded, resulting in him losing his account, even though he had been here for many years and assisted many people, he was rounded up by the mob, and had enough.
I've closed my account on here before due to a spat with a canvasser, and now I rarely post, as genuine advice seems lost on some people, and others try to belittle it.
Best just lurking now, saves having an opinion, or having to help!
Well said
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bad modarateing I know its not easy moding on a fourm as I run one of the biggest on the net , i must of banned 30 people this year alone off our site
we have a warning rateing under the user names once they hit 100 % its a auto 3 months ban it as cut a lot of the nasty people out also help the mods to keep an eye on whats going on
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I don't really think this forum has changed at all.
To my observation it's always been rather cliquey with discussions between many of the same members and the rest of us just reading and listening.
There are some excellent points, thoughts and angles raised and debated that I'd never considered - so I'm therefore happy to read, learn and share the occasional input.
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I am fairly new to the forum and have found the complete opposite.
I have posted a couple of videos which went down well. Going on what I have seen and i know some big companies post on here it seems fine. I Don't know a great deal about the rep of CIU but nobody said Ohhhhh that a poop van, or you have annoying voice (waits for it lol)
One chap even said something like " I have a funny feeling Pure H20 Services is someone who i will listen to" That makes me feel great, not for a big head but WOW i can help someone that i will never ever meet!
I think too many people get sucked in, it is just a forum.
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it is just a forum.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this
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What has happened to this forum ?
when I joined in 2010 it was full of very helpful people giving good advice,
But in the last 6 -8 months it seems to be full of new menbers all talking Bull S**t and going on about how great they are,
how much money they earn, then in the next post they have no money to buy a £2 part etc
All they seem to do is put people down, slag people off
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE CARES HOW BIG YOUR HEAD IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This forum is to help others not for blowing your own trumpet,
some of you need to spend more time running your own business then worrying about what everyone else is doing ?
If you have nothing good to say then say nothing
I think its about time admin stepped in and sorted this forum out,
if they dont I will name and shame the ones that continue to do this ?
You have all the gob on this forum but dont put up your contact info or company name etc
if you were as good as you say you are and had nothing to hide why hide your info
NOTE TO ADMIN : all members contact info shoud be public as its a open forum this info should be available to all
so why not enlighten us all why we should be warned about polar brite
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bad modarateing
:'(
If you want to know the truth, each of us creates what this forum is in our own heads. The forum is just the forum, then we add our overlay of understanding over it.
When I was helped out and shown how to do my own DIY van system, I loved the forum. But when the nasty people gang up on me I think the forum is pants (I don't really); my point is, depending on our self centred views, we either like or dislike the forum.
It started about 12 years ago, six weeks after it started someone said, "This forum is going downhill!", then that's been repeated every three weeks for the past 12 years.
Go figure.
And no-one likes an over-moderated forum; and we've had Nazi mods in the past and it's never worked out well.
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bad modarateing I know its not easy moding on a fourm as I run one of the biggest on the net ,
What forum do you run, just out of interest?
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Pains me to say it but Tosh is (mostly) right.
If you can't take idiotic comments from morons then the internet is not for you..
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Great forum if you ask me, learnt loads from it since I signed up and found people really helpful to each other in general.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
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There, mate, fixed that for you.
Pains me to say it but Tosh is always right.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
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Great forum if you ask me, learnt loads from it since I signed up and found people really helpful to each other in general.
+1
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IM NOT SAYING THIS FORUM IS ALL BAD,
THERE ARE SOME VERY INTRESTING POINTS MADE,
ITS JUST THE SOME PEOPLE ON HERE SEEM JUST TO SLAG OFF ANYONE THEY CAN
I THINK THEY ARE JUST THE BOTTOM FEEDERS THAT HAVE S**T BUSINESS, AND DONT LIKE OTHERS DOING BETTER THEN THEM ?
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Great forum with plenty of good advice yes it does tend to favour wfp cleaners and Gardiner products.
But then I am a fan of both so wont complain.
If somebody posts something nasty then don't reply as this is what they want.
They will soon get fed up and move on.
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Great forum with plenty of good advice yes it does tend to favour wfp cleaners and Gardiner products.
But then I am a fan of both so wont complain.
If somebody posts something nasty then don't reply as this is what they want.
They will soon get fed up and move on.
Valid point
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
calm down its only a forum :)
the only thing that has happened is that it as evolved with the people who use it and i am guessing that after three years or so your not liking the change, in another 3 years it will be a different forum again, someone posted on here once " i have out grown this forum" i think he felt the same has you, i personally never really give out advice to newbies for 2 reasons
1 far too many cleaners, therefore i dont want to encourage more competition
2 they never really thank any one, some do of course
but thats people in a democracy i suppose, and we all have the freedom of choice, whether to stay on here or vacate the forum
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bad modarateing I know its not easy moding on a fourm as I run one of the biggest on the net ,
What forum do you run, just out of interest?
She runs a VW forum Toshy.
The VW lads can be really bitchy too.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
calm down its only a forum :)
the only thing that has happened is that it as evolved with the people who use it and i am guessing that after three years or so your not liking the change, in another 3 years it will be a different forum again, someone posted on here once " i have out grown this forum" i think he felt the same has you, i personally never really give out advice to newbies for 2 reasons
1 far too many cleaners, therefore i dont want to encourage more competition
2 they never really thank any one, some do of course
but thats people in a democracy i suppose, and we all have the freedom of choice, whether to stay on here or vacate the forum
Yeah I can see that, the last forum i gave out hours of my life and only three people really appreciated it. Now i am clever about it. I do videos and Google+ posts and if they want the real super dooper advice and videos they are viewed on youtube or linked via my site. Which helps with SEO :)
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I`m a lurker now.
Fantastic forum,probably unsurpassed by similar in any other trade,hobby,perversion etc.
I am extremely grateful it exists.
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bad modarateing I know its not easy moding on a fourm as I run one of the biggest on the net , i must of banned 30 people this year alone off our site
we have a warning rateing under the user names once they hit 100 % its a auto 3 months ban it as cut a lot of the nasty people out also help the mods to keep an eye on whats going on
Quite how I was never banned is beyond me!!
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ADMIN TAKE NOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at what people are saying they just lerk in the back ground not wanting to comment ?
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give a little take a little thats what its about. iv picked up work off here ,not hundreds of houses but a few dozen ,worth logging in for that alone
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i spend at least 3h a day on cleanitup (sad i know ;D) i must like this forum ;)
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Tosh is always racist.
FTFY
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Great forum if you ask me, learnt loads from it since I signed up and found people really helpful to each other in general.
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me too, I joined back in 2008 and through a bad experience with a member on ciu was advised to quit so I did.
I rejoined and still think this is the best forum. You are always going to get grief on here and sod being a moderator.
You don't have to stay on here if you want same as posting. Take a chill pill and have a few days away from ciu.
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Like the forum but to many bullsh******
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Like the forum but to many bullsh******
Thats my point ?
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Someone threw in some red herrings and unfortunately you took the bait!
Lighten up man.
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Lol at you. On the other thread. go find you dummy. Your posts always sink lol you big girl
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"Look at WindowWashers, one of the most helpful and genuine blokes on here and off here, yet he was constantly hounded, resulting in him losing his account, even though he had been here for many years and assisted many people, he was rounded up by the mob, and had enough."
I think he's still on here - I thought he was going to write a book on internet marketing or something?
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its just a forum....why worry :)
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Nobs that slate polarbrite about there products etc and doesn't even say what the problem is then starts a post like this.
This is why the forum has gone downhill.
:o
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Nobs that slate polarbrite about there products etc and doesn't even say what the problem is then starts a post like this.
This is why the forum has gone downhill.
:o
Just the sort of people this post is about,
Email hidden, location hidden,
All the talk but not willing to say who he is ?
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"Look at WindowWashers, one of the most helpful and genuine blokes on here and off here, yet he was constantly hounded, resulting in him losing his account, even though he had been here for many years and assisted many people, he was rounded up by the mob, and had enough."
I think he's still on here - I thought he was going to write a book on internet marketing or something?
Yes ian is those things you say for sure. But while the he is a nice bloke, I never got into his style of posting. He reminded me of some master dangling a bit of meat in front of a dog. Instead of just doing he preferred to string his posts along, get suitably recognised for it, then would eventually get to the point.
Too faffy for me. But it's just a different style. I can respect that although I lose interest in the messenger if they string along their point. Or worse, don't ever get to it.
The posts interest me on this forum. While I may respect the posters, I have no real interest beyond the quality of the post. Many on here seem to be preoccupied with personalities and how many posts they have made.
That said, the information I get from here is priceless. I'm very grateful for the help and advice that it has provided over the years.
Take what you can from here, give a little back when you can and the rest becomes irrelevant. Then this and other forums become what they are about. Helping out with advice.
South, did you ever get to the point with your polar brite post? I think it's a shocker that you bleated without giving any details.
You could have helped many people on here, yet all that post did was complain without helping anyone. Pointless and juvenile in my opinion.
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This forum is great, and the moderating is very fair in my opinion. I don't think most members realise just how we'll run this forum is compared to some.
My only criticism is the way if someone DARES to criticise almighty Gardiners, then a lynch mob attacks them telling them they're wrong (perfect example, china poles topic) You can't be wrong about your own opinion!! I also dislike the way this forum is often used as a gardiner message board with "Alex has this been sent" topics. That is highly annoying. (Won't be surprised if some of the gardiner fanboys have a go just because I said this)
BUT these are mere annoyances, and overall I'm grateful to have this forum, and long may it continue.
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Nobs that slate polarbrite about there products etc and doesn't even say what the problem is then starts a post like this.
This is why the forum has gone downhill.
:o
Just the sort of people this post is about,
Email hidden, location hidden,
All the talk but not willing to say who he is ?
you can talk, you have deleted and locked your own post ;)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=179576.0
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I`m a lurker now.
Fantastic forum,probably unsurpassed by similar in any other trade,hobby,perversion etc.
I am extremely grateful it exists.
Spot on - van still running fine BTW !!!! and on the up ;D ;D
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sorry lads and girls and toshy I try to behave now ;D ;D ;D
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ADMIN TAKE NOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at what people are saying they just lerk in the back ground not wanting to comment ?
Sorry mate, but as was pointed out earlier, people have been whining and complaining about this forum going down hill for years. The fact that over 22000 members are on the books, although only about 100 bother to post, is a fact of life. So what if some members want to "lurk" and not post? What do you want? The mods should ban everyone who doesn't post?? Keep that attitude mate, and maybe the owners will offer you a job eh? Don't hold your breath though.
Calm down, take a break for a few hours, or maybe a day or two. Then come back, and if nothing has improved, you can stamp your little foot.
Hope that helped.
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What has happened to this forum ?
when I joined in 2010 it was full of very helpful people giving good advice,
But in the last 6 -8 months it seems to be full of new menbers all talking Bull S**t and going on about how great they are,
how much money they earn, then in the next post they have no money to buy a £2 part etc
All they seem to do is put people down, slag people off
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE CARES HOW BIG YOUR HEAD IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This forum is to help others not for blowing your own trumpet,
some of you need to spend more time running your own business then worrying about what everyone else is doing ?
If you have nothing good to say then say nothing
I think its about time admin stepped in and sorted this forum out,
if they dont I will name and shame the ones that continue to do this ?
You have all the gob on this forum but dont put up your contact info or company name etc
if you were as good as you say you are and had nothing to hide why hide your info
NOTE TO ADMIN : all members contact info shoud be public as its a open forum this info should be available to all
here here...well said bud
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This forum is great, and the moderating is very fair in my opinion. I don't think most members realise just how we'll run this forum is compared to some.
My only criticism is the way if someone DARES to criticise almighty Gardiners, then a lynch mob attacks them telling them they're wrong (perfect example, china poles topic) You can't be wrong about your own opinion!! I also dislike the way this forum is often used as a gardiner message board with "Alex has this been sent" topics. That is highly annoying. (Won't be surprised if some of the gardiner fanboys have a go just because I said this)
BUT these are mere annoyances, and overall I'm grateful to have this forum, and long may it continue.
well said, and sums up some of the minority £2.00 brigade pete.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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why on earth would I want to make my profile public? what would it achieve, there has been cases on here of members being threatened off forum.
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sorry lads and girls and toshy I try to behave now ;D ;D ;D
boring fart
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its a good enough forum if you want to know what equipment to buy, or how to set up a van etc. it's not a great business forum, and I don't seem to find there's much quality business advice on here. the really successful people don't seem to stay on here too long IMHO
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If this forum is so crap, why not start another forum where anyone who "lurks" gets a ban. Anyone who doesn't give fantastic business advice gets a ban. Anyone who doesn't see things like the mods, gets a ban. Anyone who doesn't agree with you, gets a ban.
Bet it's really full of members in a short time. Really empty after a short time longer. If you don't like a forum with thousands of members posting on different subjects all the time, and you don't agree with all of them all the time, then the above solution could be the way ahead for you eh?
The mods will forward any post you get while you're gone lads. Just leave a link.
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Without this forum id still be struggling with ladders earning pitance..
I find this forum funny with a good bunch of members who are good for a laugh and good with helpful advice, just a shame there are many who cant take a joke or are too serious, many people talk poo on forums bigging themselfs up and making out how they are better than anyone else many have spoke on this thread but at the end of the day we are all just simply window cleaners.....end of.....so we have to deal with it without having chips on our shoulders that we should have done better at school lol...
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I like this forum.
I wish admin would get rid of redundant mods and return them to the ranks and appoint one or two more but it all finds its own level.
But I still like this forum.
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I like it.
I like seeing the lads up & coming. Reminds me if where I was.
I like seeing the old guys who make loads of money but don't bang on about it.
I like seeing other guys ask the same questions I think about.
But my absolute favourite is seeing people spit their dummy out.
Usually lads with massive turnovers and crap bottom lines.
Up to their eyes in debt.
Needing to make every penny count.
But bragging about how many businesses they've got.
...selling £50 poles for £200.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
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I like it.
I like seeing the lads up & coming. Reminds me if where I was.
I like seeing the old guys who make loads of money but don't bang on about it.
I like seeing other guys ask the same questions I think about.
But my absolute favourite is seeing people spit their dummy out.
Usually lads with massive turnovers and crap bottom lines.
Up to their eyes in debt.
Needing to make every penny count.
But bragging about how many businesses they've got.
...selling £50 poles for £200.
It is an amusing diversion I agree.
Like the set of quotes in the post before this one! ;D
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People have said trey are lerking ( not posting)
Due to others giving then grief
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I would never be where I am today if it wasnt for this forum, so many people have helped me and 1 legend even sent me a brand new flow controller... for free.
Plenty of clowns on here mind
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
how rude :-*
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I wouldn't be where I am, today, without this forum, either.
You lot have got a lot to answer for >:(.
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This forum is well moderated. If we all behaved better we should not need a moderator.
WE all need to come to the realization that we are an industry and if something we do or say will reflect badly on us all .Stop thinking me and think we. There is a very strong cultural feeling to bully others in our society and that seams like a social shortfall in us and a lack of communicative skill.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
So you need to abuse someone and swear in order to make a point? That's exactly what this forum doesn't need!! Get a grip of yourself mate and stop throwing your teddy out of your pram. ::)roll
First you open a whining thread about the forum, then break the forum rules and start swearing and abusing others on here. Great example there.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
So you need to abuse someone and swear in order to make a point? That's exactly what this forum doesn't need!! Get a grip of yourself mate and stop throwing your teddy out of your pram. ::)roll
First you open a whining thread about the forum, then break the forum rules and start swearing and abusing others on here. Great example there.
exactly. +1
Well said
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I owe this forum if it didnt exist my wc business would not exist .... simple as that and the moderating is spot on
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I owe this forum if it didnt exist my wc business would not exist .... simple as that and the moderating is spot on
And "Brown-nose of the decade" goes to .... drum roll ...
Ian 101
;D
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I owe this forum if it didnt exist my wc business would not exist .... simple as that and the moderating is spot on
And "Brown-nose of the decade" goes to .... drum roll ...
Ian 101
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;D ;D. I just say it as it is plus tosh bunged me a tenner and a dozen gardiners tap handles so there mr gold
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its a good enough forum if you want to know what equipment to buy, or how to set up a van etc. it's not a great business forum, and I don't seem to find there's much quality business advice on here. the really successful people don't seem to stay on here too long IMHO
Unfortunately it's a window cleaning forum. I think for business advice you'd need to look elsewhere.
I think this forum is fine as it is and I don't quite understand exactly what the original point was: 'what has happened to this forum'. That sounds like a complaint without actually saying what that complaint is. Maybe it's just sour grapes or chucking the dummy out or maybe this or maybe that but unless the o/p states what he means exactly, then perhaps he's just as bad as what he seems to be complaining about.
The answer to the question 'what has happened to this forum' is 'nothing has happened to this forum'. It's still here and still a forum.
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
You complain about other people and what they say or do, and you post juvenile posts like that swearing at people?? Thats offensive. You should be banned from this forum. Hopefully your fishing boat will have no wifi and you can't ever post again. Anyway if you're selling up and doing one of your other million business ideas why are you still on here?
And yes i've hidden my details, purely because I like some things to remain private - I know how people can be, nasty, aggressive and stupid and don't want them knowing my details.
Some people post very good stuff here which has helped me a lot, you though sir a waste of reading time. You can be successful and still look on a forum, and still have an opinion.
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And as you have done a poll asking people what they think, maybe we should do one for you?
Who votes that South Dorset Captain Birdseye leaves this forum, you may select only one option from below:
Yes
Yes.
Rant over I only came on here to look at some hot water stuff from Dazmond!
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i blame all the people who join then sell up 3 years down the line to go fishing ;) ;D ;D
you do have point but is that not what makes a forum special, different views, opinions, arguments, etc so long has its kept in check
MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN GOING FOR OVER 35 YEARS, SELLING THE WINDOW CLEANING SIDE OF THINGS ONLY,
so your 34 and you have been running your business 35 years.classic
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It was my dads business dick head, or us your Brain so small you have been checking out my info so from the website you would see that, t**t
I think I will vote for...some people need to change there attitudes...YOU!
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With reference the above posts, why be so sarcastic, or rude, or insulting, or nasty? To those that post things like that, what does it achieve for you?
I don't get it. This is just a forum on the internet.
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Because I don't think people should be offensive and swear at others and be insulting. Also shouting in capital letters, it's rude.
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Tom, thanks for the reply - fair enough and I agree 100%.
Maybe it's better to post that straight off though.
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It's like a public urinal.
I rarely go there now or contribute anymore, the smell is too disagreeable.
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there are a few numpty jockeys who because they have "made it" are very critical and judgmental for no better reason than liking their own opinion so much they want to force it on other people.
Fair one.
Don't judge me till you walk a mile in my shoes or live a day in my life
But it's okay for you to judge others to be 'numpty jockeys' (swear word filter right?), 'critical' and 'judgemental' without walking a mile in their shoes?
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if you dont like this forum just leave ;D no one makes you stay on it only you.
Ive left a few times ;D
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I lurk, I fish through the garbage for the good information and chose to avoid the drama mainly because I was the type of person ya lot of you like to come on here and chastise. I was jobless and broke and just started doing windows on the "double" I can imagine the reception I would have got if I put that on here a year ago because judgement is passed so quick in this forum. I knew whet I was doing was wrong but I couldn't afford to sign off without having the security of at least some work. So i canvassed up some work earned a few quid bought a wee bit of work and slowly maneuvered myself financially got a van got insured and got WFP and signed off mostly from advise I read on here. So in my opinion this is a good forum though there are a few numpty jockeys who because they have "made it" are very critical and judgmental for no better reason than liking their own opinion so much they want to force it on other people.
Don't judge me till you walk a mile in my shoes or live a day in my life
Just a pity some of the muppets that run the country don't come on to forums like this.
They would see how hard it is to get off benefits without having to do the double or break the law as they would
put it.
Its posts like this that make this forum worth visiting real people having to do what it takes to
make a go of their lives.
Best of luck.
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It's like a public urinal.
I rarely go there now or contribute anymore, the smell is too disagreeable.
So you don't go cottaging anymore then Bateman?
:D
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It is an open Forum and provided comment stay the right side of the line people should be free to post comment or opinion. I do not envy Tosh the job of moderator I feel he gets the balance right. If you feel a post is self serving express the right not to read it.
There are a lot of very experienced people on the forum with a lot to offer. and yes there is the meaningless banter, Which can be entertaining at times . Its needs both to be a lively and informative site.
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It needs some sort of controller on here I reckon.
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It needs some sort of controller on here I reckon.
I work without a controller.
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It needs some sort of controller on here I reckon.
Can't be me. I try not to control anything these days; you know, go with the flow 'n' all that; easier said than done though.
And we've had two mods who've heavily moderated here in the past and it did neither of them any good, and it wasn't a very nice forum at the time.
I think the truth of the matter is, like life, we'll just muddle along. Some folk will get upset, delete accounts, then join back up; just like they've always done. Others will drink too much shandy and spout nonsense, and those with low self-esteem will tell everyone how great they doing and earning gazillions-a-day and all the other stuff that's always went on here.