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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tom20001 on November 26, 2013, 11:13:34 am
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guys im not going to build it cos im afraid il make a mess of it , il buy 1st one and build in future when i understand it better
can i have opinions on this price
ro/di 210 L - 2,100
28 ft gardiner clx- 170
50 m freestanding metal hosereel-59
100m 8mm minibore- 100
Hose roller guide- 50
few other bits as well but price inc vat is 2972 including fitting
advice opinions on value of this please ?
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guys im not going to build it cos im afraid il make a mess of it , il buy 1st one and build in future when i understand it better
can i have opinions on this price
ro/di 210 L - 2,100
28 ft gardiner clx- 170
50 m freestanding metal hosereel-59
100m 8mm minibore- 100
Hose roller guide- 50
few other bits as well but price inc vat is 2972 including fitting
advice opinions on value of this please ?
have you tried purefreedom ? there a good company veryhelpful,ive always found them competative on price
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Maybe another handy window cleaner- close to you- could do it for the price of a drink; a good drink.
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Tom, where do you live
There must be a cleaner on here who is not too far away that will show you their system and let you pick their brains for a few hours
I'm actually a fully qualified engineer by trade and could easily have done the work if I had access to the right tooling. However I paid pure freedom to kit my van out because I needed a non standard, quite specific frame building so that I could easily remove tank and frame without having to remove loads of nuts and bolts
I paid a fair whack for this but when you consider all their expenses I don't think the price was unreasonable. They are a very professional company to deal with in my opinion
However, having said all that I certainly wouldn't entertain the idea of paying someone else to fit one for me in future now I know how it all works
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Tom, where do you live
There must be a cleaner on here who is not too far away that will show you their system and let you pick their brains for a few hours
I'm actually a fully qualified engineer by trade and could easily have done the work if I had access to the right tooling. However I paid pure freedom to kit my van out because I needed a non standard, quite specific frame building so that I could easily remove tank and frame without having to remove loads of nuts and bolts
I paid a fair whack for this but when you consider all their expenses I don't think the price was unreasonable. They are a very professional company to deal with in my opinion
However, having said all that I certainly wouldn't entertain the idea of paying someone else to fit one for me in future now I know how it all works
Im in dublin lads and price is with a company in northern ireland
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you can fit everything you need for about 1200, its really not hard at all, i or someone else can write you a guide if you cant find someone close, h20 on heres pretty handy in fitting vans out diy, you cant really mess anything up, all you can do wrong really is find you are missing a few bits and need to drive to bnq as long as you buy the main things, hose, real, connectors pump battery and tank you will have all you need, pure freedoms your best bet bu d
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Tom try Sureclean in Omagh N. Ireland, you wont go far wrong they fit an excellent system
that will last you many years.
They will also show you how to maintain and use it properly.
To build a system of similar quality yourself wont save you a lot maybe £300 or £400 tops and thats
if you don't make any mistakes.
If you can, go for a bigger tank.
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Buy the bits yourself and I'll nip over to Dublin and put it in for you in one day.
For a lot less than that.
Oh and I'm a qualified engineer with 20 years experience ;D ;D
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Buy the bits yourself and I'll nip over to Dublin and put it in for you in one day.
For a lot less than that.
Oh and I'm a qualified engineer with 20 years experience ;D ;D
ha ha is that a genuine offer DG???!! :)
im new to WFP guys nd just dont want to make a mess of it!!!!!!!!!!
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Mate save yourself the bother take it down to your local mechanic and ask him to do it.
I'd come over if I had a bit more time but I'm flat out till xmas ;D
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It's real easy mate, don't spend that much you can sort that in a day.
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ok guys do yeah waterproof van beforehand or do yeah bother?
what size battery?
how do i do split relay from van battery to battery in back of van or do i need to do this?
what way do i connect up system, pump/ ro etc what goes where like?
should i bolt a frame down with tank or should i just ratchet strap it in?
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E mail me your number and I will send you some pictures if you like.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/500L-FRAMED-BUDGET-PURE-WATER-SYSTEM-300GPD-RO-DI-Kit-window-cleaning-/180828032596?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item2a1a30ce54
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Affordable-Professional-Window-Cleaning-Systems-Self-Install-Wfp-System-/301014542165?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item4615dd6755
much cheaper!!!
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Tom try Sureclean in Omagh N. Ireland, you wont go far wrong they fit an excellent system
that will last you many years.
They will also show you how to maintain and use it properly.
To build a system of similar quality yourself wont save you a lot maybe £300 or £400 tops and thats
if you don't make any mistakes.
If you can, go for a bigger tank.
the quote is from sureclean sean, very professional but very pricey
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250L-FRAMED-BUDGET-PURE-WATER-SYSTEM-300GPD-RO-DI-kit-window-cleaning/350657779982?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D286%26meid%3D2983945003857205157%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D180828032596%26#shpCntId
what yeah guys reckon on this?
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650 litre tank in frame...£300
4040 R.O. £280
11 litre D.I. filled £100
Pump £90
Pump controller £80
Battery £70
Hose reel £60
100m minibore £50
CLX27 £170
Lets say another £100
for bits and bobs
Vat £260
That's £1560 in parts and Sureclean are looking £2972 to fit and with a smaller tank.
Don't forget they also make money on the parts as well.
I have to agree they are well over priced considering a good mornings work would fit the lot.
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650 litre tank in frame...£300
4040 R.O. £280
11 litre D.I. filled £100
Pump £90
Pump controller £80
Battery £70
Hose reel £60
100m minibore £50
CLX27 £170
Lets say another £100
for bits and bobs
Vat £260
That's £1560 in parts and Sureclean are looking £2972 to fit and with a smaller tank.
Don't forget they also make money on the parts as well.
I have to agree they are well over priced considering a good mornings work would fit the lot.
i agree sean, nice guys to deal with but the figure they are looking for way off the mark
sean what do you think of the ready made kit i posted in link before this
does it take longer to fill because ro system has not got same capacity
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Get a bigger tank than 250 ltr Tom.
Minimum of 350 ltr for a one man set-up but 400 ltr woud be better otherwise you will soon be found lacking.
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Get a bigger tank than 250 ltr Tom.
Minimum of 350 ltr for a one man set-up but 400 ltr woud be better otherwise you will soon be found lacking.
ive a seat inca van so payload does not allow for now
250L will do until i establish myself a bit more , thanks andy
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650 litre tank in frame...£300
4040 R.O. £280
11 litre D.I. filled £100
Pump £90
Pump controller £80
Battery £70
Hose reel £60
100m minibore £50
CLX27 £170
Lets say another £100
for bits and bobs
Vat £260
That's £1560 in parts and Sureclean are looking £2972 to fit and with a smaller tank.
Don't forget they also make money on the parts as well.
I have to agree they are well over priced considering a good mornings work would fit the lot.
I doubt you can buy a new 650 ltr tank with frame for £300 or a new 4040 for £280 im afraid.
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650 litre tank in frame...£300
4040 R.O. £280
11 litre D.I. filled £100
Pump £90
Pump controller £80
Battery £70
Hose reel £60
100m minibore £50
CLX27 £170
Lets say another £100
for bits and bobs
Vat £260
That's £1560 in parts and Sureclean are looking £2972 to fit and with a smaller tank.
Don't forget they also make money on the parts as well.
I have to agree they are well over priced considering a good mornings work would fit the lot.
I doubt you can buy a new 650 ltr tank with frame for £300 or a new 4040 for £280 im afraid.
andy what do you make of the system i linked to below on ebay
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Get a bigger tank than 250 ltr Tom.
Minimum of 350 ltr for a one man set-up but 400 ltr woud be better otherwise you will soon be found lacking.
ive a seat inca van so payload does not allow for now
250L will do until i establish myself a bit more , thanks andy
Fair enough.
Maybe consider just getting a price for a company to fit the tank if you want to save money and don't want to do it yourself.
You will be able to fit the rest yourself easily enough.
ps. the system you have linked to looks ok, but pole doesn't look great.
Consider the properties you will be cleaning, I would recommend a minimum 22ft pole.
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Get a bigger tank than 250 ltr Tom.
Minimum of 350 ltr for a one man set-up but 400 ltr woud be better otherwise you will soon be found lacking.
ive a seat inca van so payload does not allow for now
250L will do until i establish myself a bit more , thanks andy
Fair enough.
Maybe consider just getting a price for a company to fit the tank if you want to save money and don't want to do it yourself.
You will be able to fit the rest yourself easily enough.
ps. the system you have linked to looks ok, but pole doesn't look great.
Consider the properties you will be cleaning, I would recommend a minimum 22ft pole.
great andy, is the R/o sufficient with the system ive linked too?
would it be slower to fill?
thanks
this thing has my head wrecked i just want to get it done!!
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The 300 gpd ro should be ok to supply enough water for your requirements.
You might want to add a booster pump to increase water pressure and speed up production.
Beware that all RO's produce water slower in colder weather.
Have you checked your TDS at tap to see if you do need an RO if if you can just use DI?
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The 300 gpd ro should be ok to supply enough water for your requirements.
You might want to add a booster pump to increase water pressure and speed up production.
Beware that all RO's produce water slower in colder weather.
Have you checked your TDS at tap to see if you do need an RO if if you can just use DI?
im in a hard water area but im goin to pop into a place and buy one and check anyway
whats the difference between the 4040 ro and the 300 one on the link i posted?
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the 4040 is really fast, however i have a large round and use a 450 gpd ro, to fill a 650 litre tank i would say a 300 would be alright but i would get a booster pump
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A 4040 has a much larger membrane and is capable of producing water much faster.
For example a 300 gpd RO might produce 50 ltrs of pure per hour.
A 4040 could probably do 150-200 ltrs per hour.
But is obviously much more expensive to purchase (£500+).
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650 litre tank in frame...£300
4040 R.O. £280
11 litre D.I. filled £100
Pump £90
Pump controller £80
Battery £70
Hose reel £60
100m minibore £50
CLX27 £170
Lets say another £100
for bits and bobs
Vat £260
That's £1560 in parts and Sureclean are looking £2972 to fit and with a smaller tank.
Don't forget they also make money on the parts as well.
I have to agree they are well over priced considering a good mornings work would fit the lot.
I doubt you can buy a new 650 ltr tank with frame for £300 or a new 4040 for £280 im afraid.
Your right Andy R.O. with membrane £340 +vat.
Tank with frame is about a £100 more all from Sureclean.
Also missed out pre-filters and containers at around £50 + vat.
Auto cut off valve at £80 + vat.
But its still a high mark up.
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ive priced 4040 r/o with cleaning warehouse for same system linked to earlier in this posting and they reckon bout 1800 for that?
what you guys reckon