Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: hasti on November 23, 2013, 06:05:18 pm
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http://www.buildingcleaningacademy.co.uk/academy/opt-in.html
Hi Guys
Have any one attended this course ?
What you think of it?
He gives out a few interesting information.
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It never ever hurts to learn at get information you can only improve by doing so.
HOWEVER
without going deep into the web site blurb on the face of it, it reminds me of those get rich quick ad's that in fact cost you hundreds of pounds for info you can find for yourself FOC.
Do you know the real 'cost' for this bible?
Darran
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It never ever hurts to learn at get information you can only improve by doing so.
HOWEVER
without going deep into the web site blurb on the face of it, it reminds me of those get rich quick ad's that in fact cost you hundreds of pounds for info you can find for yourself FOC.
Do you know the real 'cost' for this bible?
Darran
Thanks for your input Darran.
That’s the thing, he doesn’t give out how much all these costs, and I am thinking he get you to come to the course and then hit you with a Big Price Tag, these sort of marketers always do.
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Just thought, it would be interesting if this Guy (Reece Wood)
Come here and explain it in more details. Ie : the final price :)
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Looks like he's based around Milton Keynes
http://www.reeda.co.uk/#!
I would have thought that m clean or others on the general cleaning side would know more about him
Darran
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Usually when some one marketing their products on a big scale, specially on the forum as popular as this, its best to talk about it and try to explain it in more detail to get more people interested in their product.
I know I would.
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I was going to go on the 'invited', initial courses but circumstances and schedules got in the way and I didn't.
I spoke to Reece on several occasions and I believe he is genuine in what he is trying to do. He has a phenomenal business already and he probably does want to share his 'knowledge'
I couldn't get to grips with and or I didn't like the approach, too much secrecy and even now I don't know what the guy did on the free courses but no one wants to talk about what went on. It is almost like a 'boys Club' but you have to know the handshake.
If i'm honest I don't go for all that s*it!. It's building cleaning, I already clean sizeable properties and I couldn't see what I could gain.
I may have missed the point on the marketing side and that may have been a good reason to go. I know there are some big figures thrown around for time given to individuals but I think that if you want 'it' then it may be for you.
Too boys club and too secret for me.
Rob ;D
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Thanks for the honest and open reply Rob
Like you the approach is to American and has the feel of to good to be true,
Unlike yourself I'm just moving into this area of cleaning so I think I could learn from this, however it's a fair distance from me and I would like to have seen a more open approach
Darran
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I was going to go on the 'invited', initial courses but circumstances and schedules got in the way and I didn't.
I spoke to Reece on several occasions and I believe he is genuine in what he is trying to do. He has a phenomenal business already and he probably does want to share his 'knowledge'
I couldn't get to grips with and or I didn't like the approach, too much secrecy and even now I don't know what the guy did on the free courses but no one wants to talk about what went on. It is almost like a 'boys Club' but you have to know the handshake.
If i'm honest I don't go for all that s*it!. It's building cleaning, I already clean sizeable properties and I couldn't see what I could gain.
I may have missed the point on the marketing side and that may have been a good reason to go. I know there are some big figures thrown around for time given to individuals but I think that if you want 'it' then it may be for you.
Too boys club and too secret for me.
Rob ;D
Thanks for input Rob, very interesting comment, yes I would like to attended this course, but I need to know more about it before I can part with my hard earned cash, and exactly what you said too many secrecy put most people off attending.
In terms of marketing there are hundreds of books out there that you can buy for next to £10 from people who are earning millions and learn so much without going to seminars that charge you thousands.
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I will help anyone I can, by email, give me a call and on here.
I am still thinking about putting the pressure washer training days on in the New year and with the small amount I have learned I am sure I can share some of that. From that there might be an initial day on pressure washing various surfaces and then a more detailed day on commercial works.
Nothing set up yet but I know there is interest.
Commercial is a nightmare but it is also a lifestyle changer, if done properly.
I have just told one of the biggest principle contractors in the country that we wont work for them again but then I have other works and other avenues.
Rob ;D
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Hasti
I don't know the costs involved. Someone who is actually doing it, which he obviously is, is worth paying for his experience gained.
Speak to the guy, ask him.
I am working at that level already, I may not be as successful but I jumped into commercial seven years ago and it's working for me.
A million books wont give you the subtle qualities - you may gain!
Irrespective he will only show you, the hard work is up to you ;)
Rob ;D
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Hasti
I don't know the costs involved. Someone who is actually doing it, which he obviously is, is worth paying for his experience gained.
Speak to the guy, ask him.
I am working at that level already, I may not be as successful but I jumped into commercial seven years ago and it's working for me.
A million books wont give you the subtle qualities - you may gain!
Irrespective he will only show you, the hard work is up to you ;)
Rob ;D
I fully understand ROB and thank you.
I remember two years ago I attend a 2-hour FREE seminar that a famous T.V. presenter was advertising regarding property investment.
So I thought as he is famous on T.V. and he has a lot knowledge about property investment, I will attend and see what kind of lead he can offer, after all it was FREE and I had nothing to loose, :) so when I went there, as it was FREE there were hundreds of other people there too. ;D
But the represented wasn’t there and he had send some one else instead, which was a bit disappointing and after two hours of bla, bla, bla, this guy said if you want to get to meet the T.V. representer and he will guide you personally to achieve your aim would cost you I think it was around £6,000 over period of few months. :)
Then I thought if he has lied to start with and send some one else instead of himself to tell us all this, I wonder if he just wants our money and that’s all. :)
But at least I learned something from that FREE seminar that DON’T TRUST ANY ONE WHO SAY SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. ;D
There are lots of these kind of marketing going on out there, that’s why I like to be hundred percent sure.
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For me I never went in half ar*ed to commercial. I sold the window cleaning round and jumped in with both feet, with no fallback.
That was a mistake, there are a lot of times I wish I had some cash coming into the business, it would certainly make the 'waiting' for the bigger payments easier.
I am going back to the domestic market and will carry on doing what we do and developing it but with the knowledge gained and the CV we have I can market that into 'high end' domestic work.
I've got MacBlast Uk now and that has only come about because of the rewards of the commercial works, reinvested.
Please don't think that it is a breeze and it has been easy because that is not the case. When I first started cleaning windows, back in 2001 a farmer said to me 'you get nowt, for nowt' - a very small phrase from a man that probably did and still does work 365 days per year but he has a brand new tractor, two big houses and a lifestyle from it. There's no money in farming though!!
If you are talking about getting in at Reece's level you will eat, sleep and breathe it, it will be the hardest thing you have ever done and it will stress your head off. Is it worth it - yes.
Ask the other people on here, Darren @ Purple Rhino, Trevor Perry (Trevor had/has a large business, employing a lot of people), it is a nightmare.
I hope you achieve your aspirations but keep all the balls in the air, if you can!
Rob ;D
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For me I never went in half ar*ed to commercial. I sold the window cleaning round and jumped in with both feet, with no fallback.
That was a mistake, there are a lot of times I wish I had some cash coming into the business, it would certainly make the 'waiting' for the bigger payments easier.
I am going back to the domestic market and will carry on doing what we do and developing it but with the knowledge gained and the CV we have I can market that into 'high end' domestic work.
I've got MacBlast Uk now and that has only come about because of the rewards of the commercial works, reinvested.
Please don't think that it is a breeze and it has been easy because that is not the case. When I first started cleaning windows, back in 2001 a farmer said to me 'you get nowt, for nowt' - a very small phrase from a man that probably did and still does work 365 days per year but he has a brand new tractor, two big houses and a lifestyle from it. There's no money in farming though!!
If you are talking about getting in at Reece's level you will eat, sleep and breathe it, it will be the hardest thing you have ever done and it will stress your head off. Is it worth it - yes.
Ask the other people on here, Darren @ Purple Rhino, Trevor Perry (Trevor had/has a large business, employing a lot of people), it is a nightmare.
I hope you achieve your aspirations but keep all the balls in the air, if you can!
Rob ;D
Rob, You have made my day mate. :)
I thank you. And you have given me quiet a lead. :)
I will have a chat with these guys and will make my decision which way to go.
Once again a BIG THANK YOU. :)
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If you do please report back !
Darran
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If you do please report back !
Darran
I sure will Darran, but i have a gut feeling what i am going to get as an answer. :)
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Rob who is the principle contractor is it B&K and was this due to delayed payment issues.
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We where on it last Thursday and Friday.
Reece certainly knows his stuff!
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It was B & K.
I don't want to say on here what it was about but it wasn't my doing.
It seems like you have some experience of them?
Rob ;D
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I went on the initial invitation course and Reece came across as a very genuine guy and had people taking parts of the course who had a vast amount of knowledge in the areas they worked in, there was quite a bit of equipment to try out which was good as you could see which would suit your needs best but I feel he maybe should of had a reasonably powerfull powerwasher to demonstrate how this can be usefull as well as the gentler less water approach he uses most times.
I did not go any further with the promotion he offered although with his marketing skills i think it could work but it just was not for me
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So what are the costs?
Darran
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Trevor
The main question for me - was there a request or agreement not to talk about the course content because most of the people that went on it have not talked about it.
We have had a contributor on here that has been on it but a very short response with nothing else to say, very strange!!
Rob ;D
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Some one who has been on it this week just told me that its between £6000 to £8000 to join the circle :o :o
And he said that Reece is very selective who he choose to have in the team circle. :)
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Trevor
The main question for me - was there a request or agreement not to talk about the course content because most of the people that went on it have not talked about it.
We have had a contributor on here that has been on it but a very short response with nothing else to say, very strange!!
Rob ;D
No Rob there was no request or agreement to keep silent, I do think the costs where a bit over the top but if it brought in the amount of leads Reece talked about then it definitely would be viable, whether he will find people willing to part with that money whilst he has no references are recommendations by people it has worked for is another thing.
When you see all the marketing, website, and videos he would put in place aswell as the guaranteed leads then you can see why he would come up with the amount he wants but without a proven track record of results it is a lot of money to have a gamble on
I think Reece is selective as he only wants people he feels are capable of carrying out the work to a high standard this way he would build up a national network that provided a very high standard of service, I wish him well and if he manages to make it work it could be a good money earner for all involved but as said personally I think its a bit of a gamble
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Trevor
The main question for me - was there a request or agreement not to talk about the course content because most of the people that went on it have not talked about it.
We have had a contributor on here that has been on it but a very short response with nothing else to say, very strange!!
Rob ;D
No Rob there was no request or agreement to keep silent, I do think the costs where a bit over the top but if it brought in the amount of leads Reece talked about then it definitely would be viable, whether he will find people willing to part with that money whilst he has no references are recommendations by people it has worked for is another thing.
When you see all the marketing, website, and videos he would put in place aswell as the guaranteed leads then you can see why he would come up with the amount he wants but without a proven track record of results it is a lot of money to have a gamble on
I think Reece is selective as he only wants people he feels are capable of carrying out the work to a high standard this way he would build up a national network that provided a very high standard of service, I wish him well and if he manages to make it work it could be a good money earner for all involved but as said personally I think its a bit of a gamble
Time will, i be very interested to see how many will opt out for this in future.