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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PoleKing on November 23, 2013, 09:49:32 am
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Just got me thinking, what's the coldest anyone has ever WFP'd in?
I'm at -14 2 years ago in East Midlands.
I'm sure the scots lads could beat that though...
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+1 also East Midlands
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Just got me thinking, what's the coldest anyone has ever WFP'd in?
I'm at -14 2 years ago in East Midlands.
I'm sure the scots lads could beat that though...
You cannot WFP at -14 for a start!
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How wrong are you!! Done it
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Just got me thinking, what's the coldest anyone has ever WFP'd in?
I'm at -14 2 years ago in East Midlands.
I'm sure the scots lads could beat that though...
You cannot WFP at -14 for a start!
Lol. Part-timer. ;D
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Lol
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+1 also East Midlands
Havn't you worked in minus temperatures before then :P
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How wrong are you!! Done it
Did you attend any physics classes at school?
Are you really willing to embarrass yourself in a public forum?? ::)roll
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It's going to sound like 1upmanship but -15, honest ;D
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How wrong are you!! Done it
Did you attend any physics classes at school?
Are you really willing to embarrass yourself in a public forum?? ::)roll
Trust me it IS possible - it is also utterly pointless - but so long as you have hot (well, warm) water it is do-able.
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How wrong are you!! Done it
Did you attend any physics classes at school?
Are you really willing to embarrass yourself in a public forum?? ::)roll
Trust me it IS possible - it is also utterly pointless - but so long as you have hot (well, warm) water it is do-able.
Exactly- "utterly pointless"
We had -14 at lunchtime the last bad winter we had & I can tell you now, even boiling water would have froze on the glass in less than a minute!!!!
To suggest that you can clean windows with WFP in temperatures of -14 is utterly stupid- fact! ;)
And I know, that no one can go out cleaning windows at -15 regardless of what anyone says on here!
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We were cleaning schools in December 2010. They needed to be cleaned during the Christmas holidays - there were 9 to do in 4 days. It was -22 on the coldest day.
We contacted the facilities management company who were in charge of the contract to tell them that we may have to postpone the clean until the temperature improved or do them trad - they told us in no uncertain terms that we had to do them and could not use ladders.
We cleaned them. -15 was the coldest we recorded while cleaning them. We did it and they were clean - it was not easy - but we did it.
Regardless of what anyone says on here.
Also we discovered boiling water is no use whatsoever at those temperatures. Aside from the fact there is a serious danger of thermal shock cracking windows the steam from the boiling water freezes and leaves ice on the windows. What you need is water around 20 no higher than 35.
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I must be quite unusual here then as I have found I can't clean below -4 as the coldness of the ground freezes the water in the hose. I don't even bother going out until it's above -4 for this reason.
Cheers, Tom
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lowest ive worked with wfp is -2.thats using a cold system though.im hoping i can work in temperatures of minus 5 or 6 with hot wfp if the need arises.
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I must be quite unusual here then as I have found I can't clean below -4 as the coldness of the ground freezes the water in the hose. I don't even bother going out until it's above -4 for this reason.
Cheers, Tom
We are the same. We have only cleaned below -5 on that one occasion - in extraneous circumstances.
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I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D
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What's the technique of cleaning at minus fifteen? As soon as the glass is freezing up or the bristles go rock hard i'm off home.
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I must be quite unusual here then as I have found I can't clean below -4 as the coldness of the ground freezes the water in the hose. I don't even bother going out until it's above -4 for this reason.
Cheers, Tom
Pretty much the same here.
I think the lowest i've worked in was touching -5, but that was a quick 1/2 hour commercial job.
Another time I was cleaning a large property with about 90 metres of hose out which was laying in the snow at about -3.
Only lasted about 10 minutes before the water froze in the hose and jets.
A hot water system probably would of prevented the water in the hose freezing though on that occasion.
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I remember reading somewhere thAt they work at those temps wfp quite regularly in Poland .
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I watched a guy swim under an iceberg in his pants the other night on tv :o
still don't see how you can clean in extreme temperatures unless using gallons of antifreeze.
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I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D
My thermometer works just fine thank you very much. Besides, the thermometer that showed -15 was the schools, apparently they need it because the cretins aren't supposed to be doing outside activities below a certain temperature. ::)roll
What's the technique of cleaning at minus fifteen? As soon as the glass is freezing up or the bristles go rock hard i'm off home.
The trick is to keep the whole kit and caboodle warm through circulation. Rotation of poles is necessary and you need to squeegee the glass straight after you've done it - one man with the WFP one man behind him with a squeegee pole. Not particularly efficient or cost effective but worth it when there is a large-ish contract at stake.
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I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D
+1 ;D
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In 2010 we had the Mpemba effect in many areas when we heated water. Heated water was a disadvantage.
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I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D
My thermometer works just fine thank you very much. Besides, the thermometer that showed -15 was the schools, apparently they need it because the cretins aren't supposed to be doing outside activities below a certain temperature. ::)roll
What's the technique of cleaning at minus fifteen? As soon as the glass is freezing up or the bristles go rock hard i'm off home.
The trick is to keep the whole kit and caboodle warm through circulation. Rotation of poles is necessary and you need to squeegee the glass straight after you've done it - one man with the WFP one man behind him with a squeegee pole. Not particularly efficient or cost effective but worth it when there is a large-ish contract at stake.
Not exactly WFP then? ;D
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-2 never work if colder than that.
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Not exactly WFP then? ;D
Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?
Errrr yes it was exactly that.
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It's going to sound like 1upmanship but -15, honest ;D
No, I believe you.
Fair play to you.
I was hoping to hear of someone cleaning past -20 tbh.
Bit of banter with the customers if they say you're brave/stupid I wanted to be able to say yeah but I heard someone clean @-21...
Just because...
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And I'm living the 'it can't be done' lads.
When it has been done by a number of us.
Magic? Witchcraft? Nope, a caravan boiler and a bottle of propane.
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Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.
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Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.
Lil' tip if it happens again.
Melt the ice on the heat from your exhaust.
I had to do it before I went hot.
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Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.
Lil' tip if it happens again.
Melt the ice on the heat from your exhaust.
I had to do it before I went hot.
Good tip that - note to self!
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How wrong are you!! Done it
Did you attend any physics classes at school?
Are you really willing to embarrass yourself in a public forum?? ::)roll
lol ask the lads in Canada what they use in there water. Lol then we will see!!
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I got mine stuck at 45' :o
I had to bring it down and feed it through the passenger window with the heater on full blast a bit at a time. Lucky I was in a big deserted car park.
There was a Russian guy on here a couple of years back, I think he was chucking isopropanol in the tank.
Normally my jets freeze at about minus four then the bristles followed shortly by the quick release connector.
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if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.
Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me
anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)
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Just got me thinking, what's the coldest anyone has ever WFP'd in?
I'm at -14 2 years ago in East Midlands.
I'm sure the scots lads could beat that though...
There may well be some scots lads who work in that, but it aint me!.
I have worked below freezing, but with my cold water system it is a pretty laborious process.
Water on
Water freezes
Work away very slowly agitating frozen water till the water is running all the way down
Wash window
Rinse
Yawn
Repeat on next window!.
No, I tend to stay at home until temp has risen to around freezing!
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if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.
Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me
anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)
I don't clean where the water will leave a puddle (ice rink) where the rain wouldn't normally.
Don't do front doors as a rule in winter.
Not a lot will stop me working.
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Remember "Moem Gorod" who posted on here from Leningrad/St. Petersburg. That must be a cold place in winter
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How did you stop the tank of water from freezing and the hose going into pump ?
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if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.
Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me
anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)
I don't clean where the water will leave a puddle (ice rink) where the rain wouldn't normally.
Don't do front doors as a rule in winter.
Not a lot will stop me working.
What do you do in -15 then, wfp the insides!! ::)roll
Honestly, I've heard it all. Did your parents not provide you with toys?
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Not exactly WFP then? ;D
Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?
Errrr yes it was exactly that.
No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice! ::)roll
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How did you stop the tank of water from freezing and the hose going into pump ?
It didn't freeze.
I have a greenhouse heater in the van overnight so that must've kept enough residual heat to keep it from freezing.
I cleaned at -14, it must've been colder over night.
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i've never had the chance to work below -5 yet ..i'm sure it will happen. biggest scare is the skating rink you leave behind...though i do salt and grit
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Minus 5 in the day is the coldest I've worked when night time temp was minus 17. Just had to use thermobore hose, insulate tank, hoses, everything and keep water flow running. Lost one pole stuck on a bedroom window sill for 24 hours as it froze to the sill, collected it the next day after going up a ladder and pouring boiling water over it from a kettle to recover. Don't like working when it's below zero as everything freezes as soon as you work and have to put rock salt everywhere.
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-5 quite consistently every winter here in Scotland. -5.5 a few days ago.
-7 is the coldest I've had the chance to work in.
Hot water is a must for us in Scotland I think unless you want lots of time off.
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Minus 5 in the day is the coldest I've worked when night time temp was minus 17. Just had to use thermobore hose, insulate tank, hoses, everything and keep water flow running. Lost one pole stuck on a bedroom window sill for 24 hours as it froze to the sill, collected it the next day after going up a ladder and pouring boiling water over it from a kettle to recover. Don't like working when it's below zero as everything freezes as soon as you work and have to put rock salt everywhere.
Lol. If it's there long enough to freeze you ain't moving quick enough fella!
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;D We're all getting older :)
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Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased :-*
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Not exactly WFP then? ;D
Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?
Errrr yes it was exactly that.
No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice! ::)roll
What you thought you could leave water on glass at -15?
And you called me stupid?
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Think Jonny is the cold king , well most of the Scottish lads .
In Wakefield ,yorkshire we don't have it too bad , well not as bad as Scotland .
The good old Pennines shield us from the WET weather , and puts a obstacle between the pride of yorkshire and the Manx lot ;D
Will have to put the OIL FILLED RADIATOR into the wagon soon
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Not exactly WFP then? ;D
Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?
Errrr yes it was exactly that.
No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice! ::)roll
What you thought you could leave water on glass at -15?
And you called me stupid?
No, it was YOU who came on here stating that- "Trust me it IS possible - it is also utterly pointless - but so long as you have hot (well, warm) water it is do-able." ::)roll
So, to sum up, as I correctly stated at the beginning, you can't wfp at -15. ;)
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-18 two years ago, still managed to keep going with thermo pure
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-18 two years ago, still managed to keep going with thermo pure
Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
Where was that fella?
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Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased :-*
Why would you get chased?
Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......
If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.
Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off. :)
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Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased :-*
Why would you get chased?
Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......
If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.
Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off. :)
I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!
If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!
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Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased :-*
Why would you get chased?
Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......
If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.
Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off. :)
I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!
If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!
Did you not hear that I put white deicing salt down?
What kind of sytem do you have? Does it leak water everywhere? My water only comes out the brush head and I have complete controll of where the water goes. I also use a low flow rate so water is not splashing everywhere.
In years of doing this I have had no issues! So I'm sharing my experiences on a public forum. Hope this is ok with you?
May I also add that wether your cleaning in 0 degrees or -10 degrees water will freeze on the ground.
Can you afford to have months on end off work? In Scotland it goes weeks and weeks hovering around freezing, so using your "logic" I would have to have weeks mayb months off work.
You must charge a heck of a lot if you can afford to do that?
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Jonny, I charge normal prices and don't need to work in minus temperatures.
I work extra hours in the warmer months and wind down in winter.
Have never needed to pull back a month but could do it no problem.
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Where do you live?
Honestly not working in minus temperatures isn't an option for me.
2 years ago we had 8 weeks solid of no warmer than -3 during the day.
Can you have 8 weeks off?
The reason I still work in - temps is two fold;
1. I like to still be earning, and not sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle,
2. I like to keep my customers happy with a regular service.
I have lots of customers that appreciate that I come round rain hail or shine and don't sit at home for weeks on end in the winter, especially when people want their houses looking the best for big Christmas parties and family get togethers etc.
I've always ran my business this way and am extremely happy this way.
:)
Jonny.
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Where do you live?
Honestly not working in minus temperatures isn't an option for me.
2 years ago we had 8 weeks solid of no warmer than -3 during the day.
Can you have 8 weeks off?
The reason I still work in - temps is two fold;
1. I like to still be earning, and not sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle,
2. I like to keep my customers happy with a regular service.
I have lots of customers that appreciate that I come round rain hail or shine and don't sit at home for weeks on end in the winter, especially when people want their houses looking the best for big Christmas parties and family get togethers etc.
I've always ran my business this way and am extremely happy this way.
:)
Jonny.
My mistake I was referring to minus 10 and below would work in minus 3 myself to cover Christmas.
But at the end of the day if your happy and your customers are happy then that's all that matters.
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Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased :-*
Why would you get chased?
Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......
If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.
Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off. :)
I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!
If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!
Did you not hear that I put white deicing salt down?
What kind of sytem do you have? Does it leak water everywhere? My water only comes out the brush head and I have complete controll of where the water goes. I also use a low flow rate so water is not splashing everywhere.
In years of doing this I have had no issues! So I'm sharing my experiences on a public forum. Hope this is ok with you?
May I also add that wether your cleaning in 0 degrees or -10 degrees water will freeze on the ground.
Can you afford to have months on end off work? In Scotland it goes weeks and weeks hovering around freezing, so using your "logic" I would have to have weeks mayb months off work.
You must charge a heck of a lot if you can afford to do that?
Yes Jonny, I'm in Scotland too & yes, I do not have to work in minus temperatures as I earn more than enough when it's not minus. You putting salt down is you admitting liability to causing the problem in the first place- very dodgy ground my friend should anyone pursue you for damages!!
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dont rise to the bait jonny.winpros just winding you up mate!he likes to do that to other windys from time to time!! ;) ;D ;D
most of us can get out and work in minus conditions.its a challenge!none of us wants to take weeks off at a time not earning even if we have a couple of grand emergency fund built up(which i have by the way).
id rather be out doing short days and ticking over.its better than sitting in getting cabin fever! ;D ;D
window cleaning and money is like a drug to me!i need my fix of both!!whether its -5 or 40 degrees!! ;D ;D
i also grit where needed with de icing salt and sweep any standing water away with a broom in minus conditions.
regards
dazmond
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dont rise to the bait jonny.winpros just winding you up mate!he likes to do that to other windys from time to time!! ;) ;D ;D
most of us can get out and work in minus conditions.its a challenge!none of us wants to take weeks off at a time not earning even if we have a couple of grand emergency fund built up(which i have by the way).
id rather be out doing short days and ticking over.its better than sitting in getting cabin fever! ;D ;D
window cleaning and money is like a drug to me!i need my fix of both!!whether its -5 or 40 degrees!! ;D ;D
i also grit where needed with de icing salt and sweep any standing water away with a broom in minus conditions.
regards
dazmond
Daz mi old mucker, I certainly am not winding anyone up. We are talking about people coming on here boasting about working in dangerous conditions, not just -4/-5 & causing serious public hazards doing so- do you think that's a joke Daz? ::)roll
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fair play winpro.-15 seems to be pushing it a bit!ive worked down to -2 or 3 with a cold system and had a few problems with windows freezing up on unheated porches and conservatories.
God knows how you can work in -15.i remember a few years ago when it went down to -15 overnight here and all my barrels in my van froze solid!!(all 10 of em!) ::)roll
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-5 or -50 ice is ice.
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Thanks daz. ;D
If mr winPOO read my posts properly he would see the coldest I've WFP in is -7. I wasn't talking about -15.lol
"Putting salt down is me admitting liability" ?????
Ok winPOO. We will leave this one there. I guess the council gritting roads is them "admitting liability"???. It is a precautionary and wise manner.
Enjoy work tomorrow winPOO. Uses of course it's 2 degrees then you should stay in with Jeremy Kyle as potentially you could leave some ice on the ground.
;D
Regards,
Jonny.
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what a great topic ;D
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-5 or -50 ice is ice.
incorrect
ice only starts to freeze at zero celsius and also starts to melt at
the same temp.
so a couple of degrees below freezing the water would still
have some time to soakaway whilst cleaning before freezing
at -14 which you say you clean at there is a good chance
the water would freeze on contact with the ground and as ice
is not as dense as a liquid it floats so the spill zone would likely
double compared to a liquid puddle
At -50 the water would turn to ice as it left your brush
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Thanks daz. ;D
If mr winPOO read my posts properly he would see the coldest I've WFP in is -7. I wasn't talking about -15.lol
"Putting salt down is me admitting liability" ?????
Ok winPOO. We will leave this one there. I guess the council gritting roads is them "admitting liability"???. It is a precautionary and wise manner.
Enjoy work tomorrow winPOO. Uses of course it's 2 degrees then you should stay in with Jeremy Kyle as potentially you could leave some ice on the ground.
;D
Regards,
Jonny.
very few of my customers are happy about me putting salt/grit
down a lot have fancy drives and are advised to avoid :(
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i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.
some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.
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-5 or -50 ice is ice.
incorrect
ice only starts to freeze at zero celsius and also starts to melt at
the same temp.
so a couple of degrees below freezing the water would still
have some time to soakaway whilst cleaning before freezing
at -14 which you say you clean at there is a good chance
the water would freeze on contact with the ground and as ice
is not as dense as a liquid it floats so the spill zone would likely
double compared to a liquid puddle
At -50 the water would turn to ice as it left your brush
I am correct but I get your point.
I was hoping someone would've cleaned at -20...
Also, my personal opinion is that winter will be less severe this year than last but I'm not holding my breath.
I work less now than ever before so still shouldn't really impact too much even if it is harsh.
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i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.
some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.
you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen ;D
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i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.
some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.
you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen ;D
Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.
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Is this a wind up? At -14 the water would turn to ice within seconds - you'd never be able to brush it away ???
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1385402887_2013-01-22 07.58.48.jpg)
Was trying to trad shops in this last January, complete waste of time. Certainly would not of risked wfp at that temp. Just my opinion though.
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sorry,pic seems to have come out massive >:(
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The worst time for working in minus temperatures is when the ground has been freezing for weeks on end instead of just a day or two as the ose lying on the ground freezes quickly if laid still for too long. Have to keep water flow continuously running as much as possible and drain pole hoses between cleans so nothing freezes up too quickly. Pays to have a few spare brush heads and good, leak free hose connections cause if they leak they will freeze much quicker. Pre preparation prevents poor performance as they say :)
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Is this a wind up? At -14 the water would turn to ice within seconds - you'd never be able to brush it away ???
It's muppets talking s**te!!
You are right, at -14 the water would be ice in seconds on the floor.
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i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.
some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.
you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen ;D
Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.
the coldest ive worked up to was -5c and the water was turning to ice in secs on the pavement
we had -12c one night and the brakes on passat froze on solid...so the chances of me working
in those temps even if i wanted to are non existent
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i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.
some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.
you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen ;D
Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.
the coldest ive worked up to was -5c and the water was turning to ice in secs on the pavement
we had -12c one night and the brakes on passat froze on solid...so the chances of me working
in those temps even if i wanted to are non existent
So you haven't (even tried to) work at these temperatures.
I can't see how you can have an opinion on something you haven't tried...
I realise this logic isn't universal but in this case, is true.
I have cleaned at -14, no joke, no BS. Why would I lie?
Someone else in thread said they had cleaned at -19, why would they lie?
Yes the water does freeze on the glass but with the right rinsing the dirt has already travelled to the bottom of the frame and away.
The ice left on the glass is pure.
Same as you leave glass wet, when it dries, it dries clear.
When frozen, when it thaws it thaws clear.
I didn't start this thread to willy wave, it's a genuine thread asking how cold has people cleaned at.
-19 seems to be the 'record' as far as I am aware.
The lads that don't clean past 0, fair play to you. If you don't wanna do it, don't do it. No-one will think any better or worse if you either way.
In winter WFPers will leave ice in winter-fact.
It's up to each man, individually, (or the gaffer) to decide what is safe/not safe.
Water falls on the flowers? Probably little risk.
Falls on the path-high risk. Do you miss those windows out? Do you salt? Do you trad? It's an individual call.
Long & short-to those saying WFPing at sub double figures is not possible.
It is.
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dirty...i havent been able to work beyond -5c. so how would i work at minus
double figures ;D
im sure it was you that stated(cant be bothered to look back through post so correct
if im wrong) ;D that at -14c one was cleaning and one was blading off straight away
now work buting on my own as i do,physically speaking nevermind practically it just
wouldnt be possible.
i would have iced windows and more importantly a death trap on the ground
and like i said before the majority of my customers have fancy drives and wouldnt
appreciate me throwing salt around.
i have worked up to -5c in the past and that has depended on various factors
weather for example,sunny day you might have a chance,cold misty day no chance
are the windows in the sunlight..yep no problem windows/house in the shade
forget it.
too much messing around to even bother getting out of bed for a chap working
on his own like me
i make enough money in lower temps to not even worry or contemplate it
thankyou very much
-14 you can keep it ;D
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That's not that cold.
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I can't see how it can physically be done unless your thermometers are out.
We don't even get temperatures that low here where i live at night let alone in the daytime.
I try to clean in low temps. Once it gets to -4 or -5 then the brush is like a rock even if you keep the jets clear,
ice is forming on the glass and the sills freeze up within seconds.
Any water hitting the ground freezes and the pole jams up. At some point you have to shut the flow off
this is when your kit freezes.
At -14 0r -20 your tank will be freezing over, even diesel starts to gel at those temperatures.
ps. Ice doesn't dry on the glass so how you know the glass is clean is amazing
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Where is everyone cleaning getting temps of -16 to -19...??
Rare to get those temps in daytime in britain i'd have thought?
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That's not that cold.
;D
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I think the sea would freeze at those temps as well as waterfalls, how you can keep a 2mm metal jet free of ice
would be very interesting.
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apparently water ultimate freezing point is somewhere in the 40 minus
temps.
so in certain conditions water can stay in a liquid state up to that
temp.
old Dirty D has got his bee in his bonnet with me about saying
it wouldnt be possible..which i havent said once
incorrect again dirty D
the only comments i have made are to do with the practicality
and safety. ;D
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apparently water ultimate freezing point is somewhere in the 40 minus
temps.
so in certain conditions water can stay in a liquid state up to that
temp.
old Dirty D has got his bee in his bonnet with me about saying
it wouldnt be possible..which i havent said once
incorrect again dirty D
the only comments i have made are to do with the practicality
and safety. ;D
Lol.
I don't do stressed bud.
I was trying to culminate the whole thread into one snippet, nothing more.
Btw-I'm adding if you've worked to -5 you've got a cold system.
Try hot, even if you don't want to work when it's cold, you might like it.
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Muppets talking S**** eh?
Well you know best.
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Minus 2 when I started this morning near the moors, the only hassle cleaning windows I had was when it came to cleaning one conservatory that had no heating inside that room (double glazed) windows. Ice was starting to form at the bottom of the glass as I was cleaning the top half
..... worked from the top (brush on glass) all the way down in 2-3 ft strips pulling the fresh ice down with my brush.
Had I started at the top and worked the entire width of large windows instead of working in strips I would have found it much harder going as the glass would have frozen thicker thus slowing me down even more.
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Ive done it in minus 30. But not cleaning windows! ;D
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Even the Scottish lads won't work at -14.
It's not that they can't, it's because they're scared their wives' will put the heating on when they're out.
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Don't be daft if she goes and chops the logs she can put the heating on but usually sweating by that time so no need
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I've my airing cupboard padlocked so missus can't get to the controls. ;D
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I came home tonight to find a load of windows open.
She said she was too warm.
After turning up the thermostat last night!
Don't know they're born some women!
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Hey Jarvy, if the picture of the van temp gauge is out of a Renault van, it could be +6 outside
Mine was always 12* out ;D
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Hey Jarvy, if the picture of the van temp gauge is out of a Renault van, it could be +6 outside
Mine was always 12* out ;D
Looks like a vauxhall to me.
My van and car usually show the same temperature, or close.
Usually within a couple of degrees of forecast...
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Hey Jarvy, if the picture of the van temp gauge is out of a Renault van, it could be +6 outside
Mine was always 12* out ;D
Looks like a vauxhall to me.
My van and car usually show the same temperature, or close.
Usually within a couple of degrees of forecast...
I think he's a VW man
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;D ;D
It is a vauxhall,but mostly french underneath! It does read pretty acurate though.
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Don't be daft if she goes and chops the logs she can put the heating on but usually sweating by that time so no need
Good reply :D.
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I've my airing cupboard padlocked so missus can't get to the controls. ;D
Another good reply ;D.