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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richy L on March 14, 2006, 04:35:04 pm
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Do you think it will be worth my while changing to water fed window cleaning for residential properties. The average price for a house on my round is only about £7.00p, and I am only really cleaning 3 bedroom houses. I can usually clean about 4 houses an hour on my own, so if I do invest in the reach and wash system, do you think I will be able to increase my income?
I'm 21 years old, so climbing ladders isn't hard for me to do.
Can anyone give me some advice please.
Thanks
Richy
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Richy,
I took the leap about 2 weeks ago wish i had done it 2 years ago. Mind you i have about 50% commercial work
I built myself a trolly system wich can be used from car if needed cost about £500 in all
I cleaned a factory with it friday usually takes 1 1/2 days so back sat morning but finished the job @ 2.30pm fri
another 3 days like that and it would have almost paid for itself
And not a ladder in sight ;D
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Wow that sounds really good. But I dont have any work like that. I can see the benifit if the job has one window next to another one, but like i mentioned, the windows i clean are mostly on small houses. so i was just worried it may even slow me down.
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The average price for a house on my round is only about £7.00p, and I am only really cleaning 3 bedroom houses. I can usually clean about 4 houses an hour on my own, so if I do invest in the reach and wash system, do you think I will be able to increase my income?
Richy
Richy,
We used to have a member here called UBA1 and he claimed he could clean five standard semis in an hour using ladders.
Many didn't believe him as that works out at 12 minutes per house and given that an average house has 9 to 12 windows, that works out as under a minute a window.
I personally thought he was stretching the truth a 'little'; and even if he could; maintaining that pace hour after hour would almost be superhuman.
But he changed over to WFP.
Some properties are really quick to clean with a WFP; some are about the same; none that I can think of on my round are slower.
Not only that, with a WFP you can go for bigger and higher jobs and charge more per hour because you've less competition who'd be able to do the job.
This morning I was paid £98.00 for one-hour-fourty-five minutes work. I could never have done this property using ladders (three-storey/large Georgian-windowed conservatory including roof).
On top of that I did another five standard houses and finished work by 1.30pm. I really didn't start till 9.45 (after a Tesco's breakfast). So I earned a decent amount for part-time work today.
My advice is to get a Shurflo backpack and see how you get on with it.
If you think you can earn more using ladders; then keep the Shurflo as another tool in your box.
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So about this Shurflo backback... would I have to build the system myself? or buy one ready to go? and where would be the best place to buy one ... and not too expensive. Would I be able to clean upstairs with it too? or will I still need a ladder?
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You should be to kit yourself out with a Shurflo backpack and all the paraphanalia that goes with it for around £500.00.
It'll clean windows easily three stories high; probably higher; but I haven't tried.
It's highly portable; goes anywhere; perfect for the residential round.
Look at the top of this page and do a search on 'backpack' and/or 'Shurflo backpack'.
A guy local to me has purchased the following:
Andrew McCanns Freedom Trolley (£1000) then found it too heavy.
Shurflo backpack, but got sick of filling it up (he does tops and bottoms WFP).
A van-mounted system (finds parking difficult in some areas).
He's an ex-engineer and made himself an extremely professional DIY trolley system that could hold 90 litres and 30 meters of hose (it looked so good I thought it was an off-the-shelf system).
Today I saw him using the backpack and smiled as I passed him in my car (waving and beeping my horn).
You can't go far wrong with a Shurflo backpack if your work is mainly residential.
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Hi Leeksons
Thats top advice from Tosh ( if your unsure ), the shurflo backpack
comes complete with battery & pump.
The only other items you would require are the following:
An R-O system to produce your water
A pole & brush to deliver the water
Some 25ltr containers to transport your water
A holding tank to store your water.
Hope this helps
Cheers jeff.
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Richy, I'd stick with what you're doing for now, and see how it works out.
At the moment us hands-on window cleaners are getting a better reputations and a lot of work thrown our way, which as time goes on we'll be able to charge more and more for.... :)
Wfp won't necessarily be any quicker than you are if you're generally doing simple houses, it's only on georgians it's faster.
I'm sure you'll ignore this anyway, just giving another side of the story...
Trouble is there's a lot of peer-pressure for wfp around here.
If you're not sure don't let them push you about. ;)
Cheers, Rog. (wait for the anti-squeegee fireworks ;D)
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Roger
the guy is considering wfp , have you asked him the reasons for wanting to change.
It could be down to safety , and if it is what right do you have to advise him to stay as you are.
The guy is 21 years old and has a life time of cleaning in front of him and is at a vulnerable age as regards to taking risks up a ladder
Could you live with it on your conscience if he fell and you advised him to carry on cleaning off the ladder.
If you have never used wfp then you do not know what you are on about.
The only reason i changed was purely from a safety point of view, I have a wife and 3 children to support and i did not want to risk the ladder for one minute more.
I have been cleaning trad for 8 years so i no the difference between both methods and i can not see much difference worth talking about, only the safety angle.
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Roger
the guy is considering wfp , have you asked him the reasons for wanting to change.
It could be down to safety , and if it is what right do you have to advise him to stay as you are.
The guy is 21 years old and has a life time of cleaning in front of him and is at a vulnerable age as regards to taking risks up a ladder
Could you live with it on your conscience if he fell and you advised him to carry on cleaning off the ladder.
If you have never used wfp then you do not know what you are on about.
The only reason i changed was purely from a safety point of view, I have a wife and 3 children to support and i did not want to risk the ladder for one minute more.
I have been cleaning trad for 8 years so i no the difference between both methods and i can not see much difference worth talking about, only the safety angle.
As you said earlier...yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn.
Apparently 8 out of 10 w/c'ers fall off.
Told you Richy, biased as usual. ::)
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Squeeky
You are getting really silly now.
How can you advise someone to stay on a ladder when they may want to change for safety reasons.
How about a reasoned answer and not just another silly jibe
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These are all good points, thankyou. Do you find the wfp clean well? or do they leave marks on them. I've just heard that they can sometimes they do.
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wfp cleans perfectly well indeed i have over 400 happy customers and not lost one by changing over. If you have any doubts go on a bwca wfp course or give your location and a member of this forum will let tag along for the day and show you the ropes.
If you need a link for the bwca let me know
Dave
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How about a reasoned answer and not just another silly jibe
You're obviously one of the people who doesn't read posts which don't rave about wfp Dave.
If you fancy reading it you'll find it was reasoned and not a silly jibe.
What would be the point of silly jibes with you lot about?
If he wants to change on safety reasons fine, go for it.
But he didn't state that, so I gave him the other side of the coin.
Can't see why people jump down my throat for that.
You make out like I said "Don't bother, it's crap"
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Richy,
Why are you interested in WFP? Be honest with yourself!
Ask yourself that. You DO NOT NEED WFP.
"WFP is good but it's not God gift" (Quote from Terry Burrows, champion Squeegee man!)
And Ignore the squables!!
David
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I asked my self why ??/
Answer ..I had at least 20 jobs a month i hated every month because they were high in fact they were only about 24' but they made me scared like nothing you could imagine.
Also i had at least 20 jobs where the ground was slippy, slate floor and every time i was up the ladder i wondered would i descend in the correct manner or would i be taking the short cut.
Thirdly after 8 years with a slight fall every year and god knows how many near misses.
That is the reason i went out and got myself wfp.
Now i go out to work knowing i will never be taking them risks again.
That is the one and only reason for me ..and that is plenty good enough.
Dave
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Trad done well is the dogs as far as window cleaning goes, we all know that but as said slippy tiles, overly high work are not worth killing yourself for so ok use ladder if you have any uncertanty but if you do use another toll ie wfp and go home in one piece. I personally hate leaving any window uncleaned so if ladder won't do wfp will
job done
cheers simb0
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I have been w/cleaning for 26yrs and I can give you some unbiased advice. I started w/cleaning in 1980 when I was 21 yrs old. When I started I did not know how to put up a ladder, I started with Leather and scrim.
Times have changed and you now do have a choice for the first time in cleaning windows to a very high standard from the safety of the ground. If you want to stay Trad no problem, It does have an advantage in lower running costs and you will never get anything more simpler then comeing home, putting your ladders and bucket in the garage and washing some scrims out.
But their is an element of risk with ladders and haveing spent most of my working life going up and down them its great that you can go wfp and carry on w/cleaning.
The older you get the harder it is to change, But one of my freinds is a w/cleaner Hes only 18yrs old and has w/cleaned from leaving school. He helped his dad w/cleaning at first doing it trad. His dad has been w/cleaning since 1979. When he turned 17 he wanted to do windows with wfp but his dad would not change his ways so he started building up his own domestic round. If he works a full day he gets between £300 to £400 wfp. He works 2 days a week and averages £700 a week. If he was doing it Trad he has told me he would have to work 4 days a week. His system cost £700 which is one weeks work but he has halfed his working days over a year and time is more important then money to him. He never ever uses a ladder his round is 100% wfp. He loves the fact that he will never ever FALL OF A LADDER.
I started wfp at the start of this year and wished I had done it years ago. My son works with me, He's 17 yrs old and loves wfp compared to Trad. My round is Domestic and my earnings have taken a jump upwards. I have invested a lot of money in the system but I know I will make an extra £40,000.00 over the next 10 years more then if I had stayed Trad while remaining an hell of a lot safer.
Unfourtanetly Squeaky Has nailed his colours to the mast of Trad W/cleaning and cannot give an HONEST appraisal of either system Has he's not w/cleaned with wfp. If wfp was rubbish as Squeaky claims you would find w/cleaners returning in their droves to Trad w/cleaning. You would be lucky to find one w/cleaner in the country who has switched back from wfp. I do not know of anyone switching back to Trad and there in tells you The truth of how good wfp is.
Nel.
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If wfp was rubbish as Squeaky claims you would find w/cleaners returning in their droves to Trad w/cleaning.
Nel, I never once said wfp was "rubbish", of course it's not, that's just people exaggerating what I've said.
All I said was from the results I've seen it doesn't give as a result.
I don't need to try it when it's all around me.
Why should I be able to do it any better?
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Should I change to water fed pole?
Yes. It could save your life.
Ian
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sorry for not posting for a while I went out for the evening.
Thanks everyone for your oppinions. I think it does sound worth while, but I also think it would of benifit for me to start canvasing some harder to reach houses. This way I can make the most out of wfp, therefore make more money.
Thanks again
Richy
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I changed over because its so much safer.
That was a year ago well will be next month
I still do some traditional but only because of dodgy frames or its quite away from the van and would need a ladder also for flat roof.
I love WFP i use an omnitrolly.
When i got it i was a bit sceptical about it but nearly a year on im glad i made the change.
Now getting a van mount also so i will use one my son will use the other.
Paul
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hey paul, I was just wondering, do you clean big houses or is is mostly small houses? It's just, as I mentioned earlier, my round is made up of mostly small houses. If I was cleaning houses worth £30 plus then I could see the benifits, but my customers are usually only about £7 on average.
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Squeaks,
Its human nature to be more critical of what other people do then it is to be critical of ourselves.
For instance how good are you as a w/cleaner?
I know how good I am as a w/cleaner Trad and Wfp, (Thats years and years of customers telling me how good I am and the people who have worked with me)Even though I have not been wfp for very long. Bur wfp can do a very good job of the glass and it can also do a bad job.
I once did A builders clean of an hotel that had a £1,000,500.00 plus refurbisment inside and out. The Manager watched me like an hawk,He only asked me to do them cos I was recommended to him. When doing the Bar Lounge windows he stood looking at a window for 15mins that I had done both sides of. The sun was shinning on them so I went across and said Are you trying to pick fault with my work? No, No I have never seen glass so clean, its just I am looking and my brain is telling me the builders have taken the glass out the harder I look the more certain I am that theirs no glass there. I want to touch the glass just to be sure my mind is not playing tricks on me. He spent hours that day looking at that window and was so impressed they gave me the contract to clean them.
The story illustrates the standards I set myself. So wfp Has to be very very good for me to use it.I am only a begginer with it but Beleive you me it works, I am getting a lot of possitive feed back from customers. And I do ask the very fussy ones to give me an honest opinion because they will be my greatest critics. I have not had one complaint yet and I know how long it took me to master trad w/c.
Nel.
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Most of the house's i clean are 3 and 4 bed semi's.
Got some terrace house but getting rid of slowly.
Most of my houses are around the £12 - £15 mark
Paul
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Why should I be able to do it any better?
Rog
wfp cleaning is as good as trad methods, that is a fact, I clean every day and I don't have a problem, which hasn't got a logical reason why its not working correctly.
There are thousands of trad cleaners in this country, while some are ok, there are quite a few who do sub standard work, the same applies to wfp, some are competant while others are not.
When you first started window cleaning, were you perfect from the start or did you make mistakes, which you have learned from, the same applies to wfp cleaning.
I repeat you can clean a window with a wfp and get the same result as an experenced and competant cleaner.
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Trad verses wfp is getting boreing now.
I rarely read through it all like i used to.
I would like to add my reasons for changeing tho.
MONEY.
I honestly take double what i used to in the same time on all houses, except where i have access problems.
and im temted to leave these or just do fronts.
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Eventually, wfp will be more prevalent than trad. Being quicker it will keep prices lower which is what usually counts.
There will still be ladder users,charging more, but not as many.
Gerry.
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Hi Leeksons, I've just started using wfp and most of my domestic round are £7.00 detached houses. This morning I did all that I'd normally do and got 2 more houses done before lunch, and that was doing the 1st clean with wfp!
I was also doing a factory on monday, did all the outsides in 3hrs, used to take me 4.5hrs, and this was the very 1st time of using wfp.
I'd say go for it, i went for it because i figured i was climbing a ladder 20,000 times a year, and didnt want to risk it any more than i have to.
I figure wfp is just another tool in my toolbox, it has it's benefits, but I'll still carry my ladders and squeegy.
Hope this helps, Tim
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Neil, I find your friends Dads sons figures hard to believe and when we talk figures your investment returns to you an extra £77 per week. Not convincing sir.
However I am not knocking the way or the means by which people work. Giving figures on how much you can earn and how much extra you can earn using WFP only relates to those individuals, the areas they work, the type of work they tackle and the customers they serve, so you have to analise your round, your potential customers and work to the best way to suit you.
So come on guys, work the best way to suit you whether it be WFP or Trad and please dont play the health card. If you are sensible you can work Trad, but take all the necessary precautions, follow the guidelines and dont be stupid enough to go 20 - 30 feet up a ladder - thats only asking for trouble and is irresponsible. If you can afford WFP and your area could support it then invest and enjoy the rewards.
JohnL
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The health card
That is the biggest single factor for me and many others
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Im not really sure why i went wfp !
Had a few falls in my time , one very nasty 3 story ladder slip away and landed on my head , came away with a bruise on my knee is all !
I have been rather lucky , i suppose what made me do it in the end was this site , all the stories of untold riches made me think .
I can see SQUEAKS point of view completely , but then i can see all others too!
TRUE ... it can be more lucrative running in with your pole , but there are also houses i do that i know for sure that i can take a ladder in and get the job done quicker ,with less strain on my back aswell .... BUT ..... i choose not to !
Laziness , who knows , what i do know is wfp has as many downsides as ladder work , i spend too much time sorting my gear out , when you think you are sorted , you find more probs , i just added a trolley system to the van mount and i am asking myself why did i do that ?.......... I get home and fill all the tanks and barrells and charge the batteries ...........SQUEAKY is sat at home with his feet up !
But it is true , i make a lot more money than i did on a ladder , but i also believe that it hinges on what sort of round you have , how sensible you are with your ladders and how good you are with a squeegee ...
WFP works for me , but it might not for you , only one way to find out , at least you can sell it to SQUEAKY if you dont like it ........ ;D ;D ;D
Rich P @ F
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The average price for a house on my round is only about £7.00p, and I am only really cleaning 3 bedroom houses. I can usually clean about 4 houses an hour on my own, so if I do invest in the reach and wash system, do you think I will be able to increase my income?
Richy
Richy,
We used to have a member here called UBA1 and he claimed he could clean five standard semis in an hour using ladders.
Many didn't believe him as that works out at 12 minutes per house and given that an average house has 9 to 12 windows, that works out as under a minute a window.
I personally thought he was stretching the truth a 'little'; and even if he could; maintaining that pace hour after hour would almost be superhuman.
I actually travelled from Gatwick up to his neck of the woods and spent half a day working with him. If I hadn't been with him, he can indeed work at the quoted speed. He's pretty fit too (an ex - boxer I think) so I've no reason to think he couldn't have sustained that on a full day. If they were lined up with no access problems, I could do 3 - 4 in an hour myself using trad. My problem is that I wouldn't be able to sustain it. I'm pretty unfit and and nudging 50. For me, doing 3 - 4 an hour - every hour - using trad would do my back and shoulders in so I prefer to slow down a bit and plod along.
But he changed over to WFP.
Some properties are really quick to clean with a WFP; some are about the same; none that I can think of on my round are slower.
Not only that, with a WFP you can go for bigger and higher jobs and charge more per hour because you've less competition who'd be able to do the job.
This morning I was paid £98.00 for one-hour-fourty-five minutes work. I could never have done this property using ladders (three-storey/large Georgian-windowed conservatory including roof).
On top of that I did another five standard houses and finished work by 1.30pm. I really didn't start till 9.45 (after a Tesco's breakfast). So I earned a decent amount for part-time work today.
My advice is to get a Shurflo backpack and see how you get on with it.
If you think you can earn more using ladders; then keep the Shurflo as another tool in your box.
Personally, I feel that if you are doing 4 semis an hour, WFP is unlikely to speed you up. In fact, at first till you get used to it, it will probably slow you down. The good stuff with WFP is about being able to do larger jobs IMO and doing them quicker too. For instance, one of my better jobs earns me £32 in about 40 minutes. When I've been around it another couple of times, I expect to trim that to 30 - 35 minutes - all without taking my feet off the ground as well. That's the time from switching engine off to switching it on again after finishing.
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These are all good points, thankyou. Do you find the wfp clean well? or do they leave marks on them. I've just heard that they can sometimes they do.
I've experienced problems on some jobs. First cleans can be a bit dodgy on certain types of windows. Some windows can leak water. On 85 - 90% of my work it's been just fine though. On many of the remaining 10 - 15%, I know that the job will improve as I get the first and second cleans out of the way. Alas ! a few jobs will have to go though. Some of this will be MY choice as I find that better access is needed for WFP. It will take a while to re-jig my round to get it the way I want it but I believe it will be worth it in the end. On the vast majority of jobs, the WFP cleans as well as (if not better than) the squeegee.
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SQUEEKY : MY CUSTOMERS HAVE A DICKY FIT IIF THEY FIND A DEAD PIDGEON ON THEIR BACK LAWN,WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM IF THEY FOUND A DEAD W/C?
SAFER,MOSTLY QUICKER,BETTER JOB,STAY CLEANER LONGER :P :P :P :P :P :P
GAZA
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SQUEEKY : MY CUSTOMERS HAVE A DICKY FIT IIF THEY FIND A DEAD PIDGEON ON THEIR BACK LAWN,WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM IF THEY FOUND A DEAD W/C?
SAFER,MOSTLY QUICKER,BETTER JOB,STAY CLEANER LONGER :P :P :P :P :P :P
GAZA
Agreed (apart from the better job bit).
I don't do high ladder stuff. Only use 3rd piece on one or two in the whole month.
Don't take chanches, do funny angles, stretch or anything else....
Never bothered you for years I bet Gaza. ???
I don't think staying cleaner longer is a good thing.
My customers question if they really need doing yet anyway, any cleaner and they'd say "no thanks".
Also, as someone pointed out, while you're filling tanks, charging batteries, plugging this in and whatever.....I'm putting my feet up.
Now who's the mug? ;)
Why are you still giving me this waffle anyway?
I'd stopped responding to this.
I'm just having to tell people the same things over and over.....yawn. :(
Rog.
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Should I change to water fed pole?
Yes. It could save your life.
Ian
and add to that you will earn more as you can clean more.
on a previous post i commented that i cleaned 30 + houses a day, some fronts only but most all round. i average a house every 6-10 mins and my round is very compact.a few people disputed it, but hey ho, its true.
i bought it off a chap who laddered it and it took him 5 days a week to do- i've nearly halved the time it takes to get round it and i wont be falling like he did, which is why the round was sold. safety and profit are greatly increased with wfp--but only if you are COMPETENT.
get trained up,get wealthier,get more time at home-get wfp
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If I buy the Shurflo backpack, how do I purify the water? I mean, I know how it work from a van, I was just wondering is it best to purify the water at home before going out to work, then carry just purified water around with you, or can you do it while you were working?Can anyone help?
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DON'T EVER THINK ABOUT BUYING A WFP SYSTEM, BECAUSE IF YOU DO THEN THE FOLLOWING IS LIABLE TO HAPPEN TO YOU.
1 You will be able to earn more money
2 You will be able to increase the amount of work that you do and earn more money
3 You will be able to expand and have workers who earn YOU more money
4 You will be able to let these cleaners cover your work so you don't have to do it and you will still earn more money
5 You will never fall from a height and injury or even kill yourself. Remember that you are only 1 mistake away from serious injury or death using LADDERS.
6 You will be able to now clean them windows that are impossible to clean from a ladder, and you can charge extra for this and again you make more money.
SO REMEMBER THAT USING A WFP SYSTEM WILL ONLY MEAN THAT YOU MIGHT LIVE LONGER AND WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU WOULD EVER DO ON A LADDER.
So when ever you next go to a trade show and you see these brightly coloured trolleys and the great big shiny static units that have flashing lights and dials with sparkling crome. With their poles which seem to reach upto the sky and touch the clouds and the salesman come up to you and says "do you want one".
Remenber what you need to do.
Which is to follow Squeeky and run from the room shouting Noooooooooooooo
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If I buy the Shurflo backpack, how do I purify the water? I mean, I know how it work from a van, I was just wondering is it best to purify the water at home before going out to work, then carry just purified water around with you, or can you do it while you were working?Can anyone help?
not sure mate as i've never used one, but i know that people on here have and do, so if we can hopefully get back ON TOPIC and get you some answers maybe then you'll get the help you need................................
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If I buy the Shurflo backpack, how do I purify the water? I mean, I know how it work from a van, I was just wondering is it best to purify the water at home before going out to work, then carry just purified water around with you, or can you do it while you were working?Can anyone help?
To purify water you need to find out whether your water is hard or soft.
If its soft then you need a di tank filled with di resin, all you do is connect to the tap and pure water comes out, so you could carry the di tank around with you and fill up at customes houses, but this might cause problems if you can't access an outside tap.
What I do is fill water containers at home for a days supply and fill my backpack when needed, also as I cleaning I keep an eye out for outside taps and when possible I fill the empty containers while I'm cleaning, always ask your customers permission in case they are on a meter, this will save you some time at the end of day.
If you are in a hard water area then you will need a ro unit set up at home, you then fill your water containers up each day with pure water. If you have to do it this way then I would kept a reserve stock always handy.
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Neil, I find your friends Dads sons figures hard to believe and when we talk figures your investment returns to you an extra £77 per week. Not convincing sir. QUOTE FROM JOHN L.
The figure quoted on what he earns is a fact. This Wednesday he earned £360.00. I have not made it up, In fact one of his uncles who is a Window Cleaner gave him a days work from His round to help his nephew build is round up. It was His worst work. In 4 months the young lad had turned His uncles worst work in terms of earnings per hour into beating the very best of his Uncles work in money earned.
From then on his Uncle invested in wfp and he is earning more per hour then he did Trad w/cleaning.
As for me, I allready know my investment will pay off in rapid time. The £4,000.00 a year increase in earnings is a very conservative Goal that will be reached very easily.
I have looked at my average earnings for this year before Wfp, and my average earnings since I started my second cleans with wfp. I am earning now £200 a week more and working less hours to boot. I am finding we can finnish our weeks work in three days. So if I keep my work at its present level which I wont as we are going to expand. 50 x £200 =£10,000.00.
If I take my van out of the investment as I need A vehicle anyway, plus I clawed back £5000 by selling my wifes car. I have spent £5000 on the Wfp system. I only need 1 bag a resin per 2 year cycle so it will be cheap to run. So in the last 10 weeks I am £2000 richer then Trad w/c. By the end of summer I will be in clear profit plus I will have a greatly reduced Tax bill.
You might not belive me or the figures put down but I know I'm making an hell of a lot more money plus I have removed that all important risk factor.
Nel.
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good on you neil, keep upping the money because thats what it is all about - and keep safe
:)
JohnL
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Its also true to say that over a period of time you will choose houses that suit your particular needs.
If you change from trad to WFP quite a lot of your customers will no longer suit you
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a couple of months ago i would have said yes .but id think carefully now .
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Change over asap but beware the tricky talking salesmen,i have seen some systems lately that people have paid for that are really mickey mouse and in my opinion are designed to clean out the window cleaners rather than clean windows.you should be able to put together a 1000l ro system and all the gear for a van mount system for under 1200 quid.
you will never fall off a hosepipe and your work will be so much quicker.
pm me and i will show you a cheap but reliable diy system.