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Title: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: bobplum on November 11, 2013, 11:45:22 pm
£33.00 delivered from a company called jet systems?, found it on twitter, i think Daqua want £38.40
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: wfp master on November 12, 2013, 05:46:51 pm
any pictures of this tap thingy.?  none on daqua.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: Spruce on November 12, 2013, 05:47:57 pm
£33.00 delivered from a company called jet systems?, found it on twitter, i think Daqua want £38.40

VAT?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: bobplum on November 12, 2013, 06:00:13 pm
£33.00 delivered from a company called jet systems?, found it on twitter, i think Daqua want £38.40

VAT?

all in and delivered
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: bobplum on November 12, 2013, 06:00:39 pm
any pictures of this tap thingy.?  none on daqua.

go to the DAQUA twitter page and jet systems
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: bobplum on November 12, 2013, 06:01:11 pm
window cleaning resource.com have a video of it in action
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: hasti on November 12, 2013, 07:03:19 pm
window cleaning resource.com have a video of it in action

Hi bobplum, what is this? do you have a link ?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: bobplum on November 12, 2013, 10:09:30 pm
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: hasti on November 12, 2013, 10:45:44 pm
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look

Very interesting kit, many thanks for the link, but why not sell it here too? is Peter Fogwill English or American ?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on November 13, 2013, 06:53:03 am
Looks good
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: tlwcs on November 13, 2013, 07:20:19 am
Whats a ocochwa tap?
Elbow on the side looks vulnerable
Tony
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: bobplum on November 13, 2013, 07:29:21 am
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look

Very interesting kit, many thanks for the link, but why not sell it here too? is Peter Fogwill English or American ?


it is sold here thru a company called DAQUA
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: roundbuilder on November 13, 2013, 08:03:53 am
Looks good, what brush is that he is using?? Looks the daddy.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: SeanK on November 13, 2013, 08:28:09 am
I wonder how many turns before it starts to get loose and leak.
Plus I don't like the fact that you have to put the brush back onto the clean glass
to turn it off.
Especially if there are some cobwebs stuck in the bristles.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Spruce on November 13, 2013, 09:09:01 am
I wonder how many turns before it starts to get loose and leak.
Plus I don't like the fact that you have to put the brush back onto the clean glass
to turn it off.
Especially if there are some cobwebs stuck in the bristles.

Good points Sean.

I personally don't think all the cons were thought about enough. However, Doug from Daqua who is stocking the product says he has it on trial and it is a great product and works well.

Weight wise I hear that it will be no lighter than an Aquadapter and a similar price, so for me I don't see the need for one. There are a few guys on the forum that prefer the hose to be outside of the pole, so for them this might be a positive product.

 
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: paul13 on November 13, 2013, 11:06:59 am
Good product, like all new things takes a day or two to get used
To it but shuts the water off & on as needed.
The hose can be inside or outside pole and I shut the water off
On the sill not the glass as I always clean the sill anyway.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Pete Thompson on November 13, 2013, 01:16:51 pm
I don't like it.

1- looks like it would turn itself off and on when you are just using your pole.  Especially at awkward angles etc.  That would only have to happen a couple of times to make you want to stamp on it.

2 - You've cleaned the windows, lifted the brush off to rinse, great.  Now to turn the water off you have to... put it back on the glass?  The glass you've just spent time rinsing?  If you do it will probably need rinsing again.  Problem.

3 - I don't like the way it adds extra length to the collapsed pole. I don't like the aquadaptor for this reason too.

4 - Looks a bit fragile to be at the business end of the pole.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Carl2009 on November 13, 2013, 03:05:49 pm
I don't like it.

1- looks like it would turn itself off and on when you are just using your pole.  Especially at awkward angles etc.  That would only have to happen a couple of times to make you want to stamp on it.

2 - You've cleaned the windows, lifted the brush off to rinse, great.  Now to turn the water off you have to... put it back on the glass?  The glass you've just spent time rinsing?  If you do it will probably need rinsing again.  Problem.

3 - I don't like the way it adds extra length to the collapsed pole. I don't like the aquadaptor for this reason too.

4 - Looks a bit fragile to be at the business end of the pole.
+1 plus it wouldn't work with my superb swivel resi-neck.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 13, 2013, 03:59:00 pm
The AquaTap does rely on having the brush resting on something to operate and for those worried about a dirty brush resting on the glass after its been cleaned, you just simply rest it below the glass on the frame.

It weighs in at only 70 grams so hardly noticeable on the end of the pole. Yes it could be a lot less fragile looking, it could be made of metal, but it wouldn't make it practical on the end of the pole.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Pete Thompson on November 13, 2013, 04:25:35 pm
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The AquaTap does rely on having the brush resting on something to operate and for those worried about a dirty brush resting on the glass after its been cleaned, you just simply rest it below the glass on the frame.
so the brush picks up a load of crud ready to smear onto the next window?  Maybe I'm OCD but I don't let my brushes touch anything other than the glass they are cleaning so they don't pick up crud.  Sorry but IMO this part has not been very well thought out.

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It weighs in at only 70 grams so hardly noticeable on the end of the pole.
Its the LENGTH of the collapsed pole it adds to that would bother me.  Being a strapping hunk of pure muscle I'm not bothered about the weight, but the length... well less is more.

Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: rosskesava on November 13, 2013, 05:34:32 pm
Looks good, what brush is that he is using?? Looks the daddy.

The brush is an Unger Nlite. I reckon it's the best brush I've ever used and yes, I do have a selection of Gardiners brushes as well and before any arguments start about Gardiners being the best, it is just my opinion.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: roundbuilder on November 13, 2013, 06:57:44 pm
Looks good, what brush is that he is using?? Looks the daddy.

The brush is an Unger Nlite. I reckon it's the best brush I've ever used and yes, I do have a selection of Gardiners brushes as well and before any arguments start about Gardiners being the best, it is just my opinion.
Great cheers for that, just ordered 1. Think it looks fab..
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: ben M on November 13, 2013, 07:11:04 pm
Looks good, what brush is that he is using?? Looks the daddy.

The brush is an Unger Nlite. I reckon it's the best brush I've ever used and yes, I do have a selection of Gardiners brushes as well and before any arguments start about Gardiners being the best, it is just my opinion.
Great cheers for that, just ordered 1. Think it looks fab..
;D
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: bobplum on November 13, 2013, 07:19:34 pm
Looks good, what brush is that he is using?? Looks the daddy.

The brush is an Unger Nlite. I reckon it's the best brush I've ever used and yes, I do have a selection of Gardiners brushes as well and before any arguments start about Gardiners being the best, it is just my opinion.

any idea of the weight?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: rosskesava on November 13, 2013, 07:51:22 pm
If memory serves me correctly - 580g.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: ben M on November 13, 2013, 08:10:13 pm
If memory serves me correctly - 580g.
OMG!!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: steven 1 on November 13, 2013, 08:15:26 pm


310grms

Steve

Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: hasti on November 13, 2013, 09:19:44 pm
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look

Very interesting kit, many thanks for the link, but why not sell it here too? is Peter Fogwill English or American ?


it is sold here thru a company called DAQUA

Is there a link for Daqua, so every one who is interested can buy it ?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on November 13, 2013, 11:12:08 pm
http://www.daqua.co.uk/


Scroll down a bit,on left under

New Aquatec Flow Adapter

price is vat and delivery
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: mikey on November 14, 2013, 12:00:16 am
very impressed with  this light and  I don't think anything can break used it for one hour today the future has arrived

 
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: dave0123 on November 14, 2013, 12:36:38 am
i thought there was bits coming to attach them to carbon fibre goosenecks?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: rosskesava on November 14, 2013, 01:09:13 am
I did a first clean today and was turning the brush a lot to get into the corners of the frames. Does that mean that if I used the Aqua Tap, I couldn't do that as it would be turning the flow on and off or am I missing the point altogether?

And yes Ben, I was using my lead weight Unger OMG Nlite brush. What an idiot I am eh?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Spruce on November 14, 2013, 08:14:31 am
I did a first clean today and was turning the brush a lot to get into the corners of the frames. Does that mean that if I used the Aqua Tap, I couldn't do that as it would be turning the flow on and off or am I missing the point altogether?

And yes Ben, I was using my lead weight Unger OMG Nlite brush. What an idiot I am eh?

'On paper' this is what I would worry about. I have several conservatory cleans I do that I can't get down the side of and need to be done from the front. If the gap is on the right hand side of the conservatory from the front, scrubbing the muck off the cills will tend to twist the brush due to only half the brush head being used to clean the cill. This twist will switch the tap off.

Others have also commented as you have that you are going to be limited with what you can do with your brush, ie gutter and fascia cleaning etc. Maybe they have to think about some form of locking mechanism on this Aquatap, but this defeats its original purpose.

We will await the reviews once the euphoria of the new product has died down.

Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: ben M on November 14, 2013, 08:40:47 am
I did a first clean today and was turning the brush a lot to get into the corners of the frames. Does that mean that if I used the Aqua Tap, I couldn't do that as it would be turning the flow on and off or am I missing the point altogether?

And yes Ben, I was using my lead weight Unger OMG Nlite brush. What an idiot I am eh?
no you are not an idiot, i was just surprised about the weight!
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 14, 2013, 12:03:45 pm
So Pete is your brush dirty or clean when you lift it off the glass?  Personally mines is clean and don't need to lift off to rinse separately, so no problem for people who use it that way.  If it's not clean and you see a reason to lift off, then resting it on the frame below the window is not going to cause any problems, and your brush is not going to end up any worse off for it. If your brush is clean and you still lift it off to rinse separately then its certainly not going to be clean as soon as it hits the next window that it is needing cleaned, so again no problem there with it touching a frame below a piece of glass that's just been cleaned.  Most people clean the frames anyway, and those that don't probably don't because the constant flow of water on the frame below the glass keeps it relatively clean.

We all work in a certain way, with different equipment, and we all have different techniques moving around the glass, cleaning rinsing etc.  We all have the odd awkward window that we have to go about in a different way.  What I am offering people is an alternative to what they do just now, a very simple way to control the water, on and off, and reduced flow.  the only way that you don't have to stop what your doing to turn the water off going from window to window, with your hands on the pole and your eyes on the glass. 
Now there may be a time when you have to adjust your technique to make something work the way it needs to. Some might have a problem with that and not willing to change, some will see the benefits and change willingly.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 14, 2013, 02:36:49 pm
I am asking the questions like the above to resolve any problems people may have, or think they may come across using the tap.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 14, 2013, 03:02:14 pm
I did a first clean today and was turning the brush a lot to get into the corners of the frames. Does that mean that if I used the Aqua Tap, I couldn't do that as it would be turning the flow on and off or am I missing the point altogether?

And yes Ben, I was using my lead weight Unger OMG Nlite brush. What an idiot I am eh?

'On paper' this is what I would worry about. I have several conservatory cleans I do that I can't get down the side of and need to be done from the front. If the gap is on the right hand side of the conservatory from the front, scrubbing the muck off the cills will tend to twist the brush due to only half the brush head being used to clean the cill. This twist will switch the tap off.

Others have also commented as you have that you are going to be limited with what you can do with your brush, ie gutter and fascia cleaning etc. Maybe they have to think about some form of locking mechanism on this Aquatap, but this defeats its original purpose.

We will await the reviews once the euphoria of the new product has died down.



Spruce, a locking device and tension setter has already been designed and in the plans for future models if people want it, and need it.  Best for me to wait and see what develops.  So far there has only been a few minds working on it, lets see what happens and develops over time when there are lots of minds working to make it better.  Same with the swivel brush I have ideas for that as well, and even a whole new design which works in a completely different way that would make no difference with a swivel.  Again I have to wait to see what develops.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Peter Fogwill on November 14, 2013, 04:31:15 pm


'On paper' this is what I would worry about. I have several conservatory cleans I do that I can't get down the side of and need to be done from the front. If the gap is on the right hand side of the conservatory from the front, scrubbing the muck off the cills will tend to twist the brush due to only half the brush head being used to clean the cill. This twist will switch the tap off.



Supposing that was the case like you say, then I am sure a little bit less pressure on the brush would keep the water pumping.  Think of it this way.  You clean all the conservatory windows that you described, you then clean the ledges, and supposing the water did go off because one half of the brush was being pressed and it just so happened to be on the one side that would turn the water off, would it be a big deal? just scrubbing the already soaked ledge with the water off? That would probably leave the ledges spotless, but if you wanted you could turn the water back on and rinse the ledge without the brush touching it.  Like I said it is a very easy way to control water flow for maybe 95% or so of cases, yes there may be some cases where you have to modify the way you work as in this case, clean the windows of each one first then do the ledges afterwards.  No point in writing something off that could save you a great deal of hassle, water, and time because of something that may happen on a tiny percentage of the window you clean.  Think more of the advantages on the other 95% or so of windows that are cleaned.  Supposing it did need locked then yes it would defeat the purpose on the small minority of windows as you would not be able to start and stop the water, but don't forget how easy it would be on the very large percentage.  I had a few windows when I worked that the brush I used couldn't get into, and had to use a cut down brush, I never through the brush away because it didn't work on all the windows.  It was still the best brush for doing the majority of windows I had.
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 14, 2013, 04:50:02 pm
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look

Very interesting kit, many thanks for the link, but why not sell it here too? is Peter Fogwill English or American ?

Yeah, Peter, you English or American?  ;D ;D ;D

Here's a clue ... "Glasgae Rangers whit a team!"
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: dave0123 on November 14, 2013, 05:14:31 pm
When you bringing out the adapters for the goose necks peter?
Title: Re: AQUA TAP
Post by: wfp master on November 14, 2013, 08:22:08 pm
it is the new aqua tap from peter fogwill

if you Google windowcleaningresource.com (usa) they will have a demo video of it on the website

If you go on twitter and contact DAQUA they have on there site (twitter)

or try the link below

http://windowcleaningresource.com/vBulletin/vbtube_show.php?tubeid=1004&name=aqua-tap-first-look

Very interesting kit, many thanks for the link, but why not sell it here too? is Peter Fogwill English or American ? :)

Yeah, Peter, you English or American?  ;D ;D ;D

Here's a clue ... "Glasgae Rangers whit a team!"
no such team any more they died last year. ;)
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: bobplum on November 14, 2013, 08:27:59 pm
peter, who is the cheapest supplier in the uk for your device
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 14, 2013, 09:09:16 pm
peter, who is the cheapest supplier in the uk for your device

It's 30 odd quid Bob, not 3 grand. Get one bought ya tight git!!
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: hasti on November 14, 2013, 10:10:04 pm
http://www.daqua.co.uk/


Scroll down a bit,on left under

New Aquatec Flow Adapter

price is vat and delivery

Thanks Mikey.  :)
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: bobplum on November 14, 2013, 11:10:36 pm
peter, who is the cheapest supplier in the uk for your device

It's 30 odd quid Bob, not 3 grand. Get one bought ya tight git!!

i was thinking of that, buying one ,but what has made me think is that you need an adapter/ screw thread between the pole and the aqua tap so this will increase weight  and at the moment i am trying to reduce weight due to a shoulder injury and i use a carbon goose neck so it would e a complete change for me so for now....i am out :D
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: Spruce on November 14, 2013, 11:19:41 pm


'On paper' this is what I would worry about. I have several conservatory cleans I do that I can't get down the side of and need to be done from the front. If the gap is on the right hand side of the conservatory from the front, scrubbing the muck off the cills will tend to twist the brush due to only half the brush head being used to clean the cill. This twist will switch the tap off.



Supposing that was the case like you say, then I am sure a little bit less pressure on the brush would keep the water pumping.  Think of it this way.  You clean all the conservatory windows that you described, you then clean the ledges, and supposing the water did go off because one half of the brush was being pressed and it just so happened to be on the one side that would turn the water off, would it be a big deal? just scrubbing the already soaked ledge with the water off? That would probably leave the ledges spotless, but if you wanted you could turn the water back on and rinse the ledge without the brush touching it.  Like I said it is a very easy way to control water flow for maybe 95% or so of cases, yes there may be some cases where you have to modify the way you work as in this case, clean the windows of each one first then do the ledges afterwards.  No point in writing something off that could save you a great deal of hassle, water, and time because of something that may happen on a tiny percentage of the window you clean.  Think more of the advantages on the other 95% or so of windows that are cleaned.  Supposing it did need locked then yes it would defeat the purpose on the small minority of windows as you would not be able to start and stop the water, but don't forget how easy it would be on the very large percentage.  I had a few windows when I worked that the brush I used couldn't get into, and had to use a cut down brush, I never through the brush away because it didn't work on all the windows.  It was still the best brush for doing the majority of windows I had.

I already use an Aquadapter and that works fine in all these senarios, Peter. This is what you are up against. But I know you know that already.  :)
Title: Re: AQUA TAP ( with link)
Post by: dave f on November 15, 2013, 02:10:47 pm
seems the plastic inlet at the side looks a bit dodgey if you drop the pole its a good chance of damage.imo may be in the future a mk2