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Title: wiping cills
Post by: keyser soze on November 08, 2013, 04:04:45 pm
does many wipe cills with a cloth when wfp?
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: andyM on November 08, 2013, 04:08:43 pm
This numpty wipes the downstairs cills with a cloth. 
9 out of 10 custies prefer it.  :D
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 08, 2013, 04:13:39 pm
Depends on the customer £120 job hell yes, £8 fronts no.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: paul ette on November 08, 2013, 04:19:45 pm
i wipe bottoms cills after finish if theres still bits on them
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: roundbuilder on November 08, 2013, 04:25:17 pm
Yes always wipe/dry the cills.
I like to do a good job and keep customers happy so they have no reason to look elseware!.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: wfp master on November 08, 2013, 04:49:14 pm
i wipe bottoms cills after finish if theres still bits on them
+1
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: dazmond on November 08, 2013, 05:15:16 pm
depends on a few things.if its raining quite hard then i wipe ground floor ones with the brush after a good rinse.if its a certain type of customer then i go round with my squeegee then a cloth esp if its a good paying account.makes the job look so much better. ;)
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Dave Willis on November 08, 2013, 05:22:34 pm
Nope never.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 08, 2013, 05:29:38 pm
Usually
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: keyser soze on November 08, 2013, 05:34:46 pm
i like too because it does make a difference. but have been known to skip doing them when i m under pressure. i just wondered  if the majority did it as standard. also know some dry the doors as well...(whats that all about?)
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Clever Forum Name on November 08, 2013, 05:50:22 pm
Ahhh no i do dry the doors! Had too many complaints about wet carpets, opening doors to a puddle etc.

Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: keyser soze on November 08, 2013, 05:52:53 pm
Ahhh no i do dry the doors! Had too many complaints about wet carpets, opening doors to a puddle etc.




oh yeah i never thought.. good point
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: robbo333 on November 08, 2013, 06:03:24 pm
I always wipe the sill with a cloth, but i'm undecided which is quicker (and therefore earns me more money)
Having cleaned the window:
1. clean the sill (using the brush) then just finish at the end with a cloth (but then you have to get the rubbish off your brush)
2. don't clean the sill using the brush, but clean it entirely using a cloth (takes longer but keeps your brush clean for the next window).

I know I need to get out more  ::)roll
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: paul ette on November 08, 2013, 06:33:40 pm
im the same, if you wipe sills that are really dirty your brush gets covered and if you dont get it all off then the next window gets cleaned with a dirty brush, think its safer to just give a wipe with a cloth afterwards, but do end up with a lot of soaking wet cloths :-\
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: g.brookes on November 08, 2013, 06:40:49 pm
whats the point?  clean the sill after cleaning the window.  we leave the windows wet so whats the problem with leaving the sills wet?  Otherwise you're spending 5 mins too long on every job you do
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: robbo333 on November 08, 2013, 06:53:32 pm
whats the point?  clean the sill after cleaning the window.  we leave the windows wet so whats the problem with leaving the sills wet?  Otherwise you're spending 5 mins too long on every job you do


Brookes you're right in what you say, it doesn't matter if the sill is left wet or dry but what's the quickest and best way?
I've left sills wet before and all the crap in the tiny gap between the sill and window has just gently crept out and made the sill look rubbish.
Also it only takes about 1 and half mins to wipe over all the downstairs sills of an average house.
The point is doing the best possible job in the shortest amount of time.
What's your technique?
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: PoleKing on November 08, 2013, 07:21:57 pm
Collect payment (if applicable) then wash the door.
Miss front doors when sub zero.
Never wiped a cill (other that with the brush) since I've been cleaning.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Ian_Giles on November 08, 2013, 07:37:59 pm
For the past fee weeks I've been helping another window cleaner out on a day here and a day there and he is unbelievably fussy on his sills, washes them, pinches off the water flow and will wipe off the sills with his brush, or will use a cloth or will rinse over and over....
His work, his rules but why???!!!

It was really interesting to observe first hand another experienced window cleaners technique.
Watching how particular he was over his sills I then paid attention to my own for the sake of comparison.
Now I do wash my sills and frames automatically and on comparing like for like I initially wondered if there would be much of a difference...

And was there?


Nope, none at all that I could see, I do not fart around with a sill cloth nor go over the top with washing and scrubbing and flicking off any accumulated water and if there was - or is. A difference I'm blowed if I could see one.

He also spends an age rinsing off the glass, even with a high flow rate...again, his work, his rules but what a waste of time!!
Is you have washed the windows properly then you are rinsing as you are washing and rinsing once you have washed the windows is either a lack of confidence in your ability to clean windows with wfp or a mistaken belief that it is necessary to do so.

There are occasions when it will make sense to rinse (although I personally always rinse with the tips of the brush on the glass) but by and large it just isn't necessary...although of course many on here would argue differently  8)
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: koopmaster on November 08, 2013, 07:50:43 pm
agreed, if the windows are cleaned monthly or every 2 months then they should not be that dirty.  I just wash and run the brush over again a little slower (not much) and give the sills a wipe with the brush.  DONE..
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: DG Cleaning on November 08, 2013, 08:06:25 pm
Always do a last quick wipe with the water off.
Gets rid off all the crap that comes out of the gap between cill and window.
If you dry them water will still drip down off the window when you've gone.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: dazmond on November 08, 2013, 08:35:33 pm
some customers like dry sills(i know as some have commented before now).if you use a squeegee to quickly take most of the water off then a quick go over with a cloth it looks great for the customer esp if their in and you ve been lighteningly quick wfpoling the windows with a high flow.

its this little attention to detail that some customers like IMO and worth the extra min or two.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: paul ette on November 08, 2013, 08:48:00 pm
+1
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 08, 2013, 09:37:33 pm
Depends on the sill for me, if there is silicon between the joint, the brush is sufficient, if there is a gap and dirt runs out I will wipe with a cloth
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: lal on November 09, 2013, 10:14:58 am
some customers like dry sills(i know as some have commented before now).if you use a squeegee to quickly take most of the water off then a quick go over with a cloth it looks great for the customer esp if their in and you ve been lighteningly quick wfpoling the windows with a high flow.

its this little attention to detail that some customers like IMO and worth the extra min or two.
+2
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Positivity on November 12, 2013, 05:45:01 pm

He also spends an age rinsing off the glass, even with a high flow rate...again, his work, his rules but what a waste of time!!
Is you have washed the windows properly then you are rinsing as you are washing and rinsing once you have washed the windows is either a lack of confidence in your ability to clean windows with wfp or a mistaken belief that it is necessary to do so.

There are occasions when it will make sense to rinse (although I personally always rinse with the tips of the brush on the glass) but by and large it just isn't necessary...although of course many on here would argue differently  8)
Hi bit surprised this wasn't picked up on a bit more.
Ian is long established so I would like to get your opinions on this!
The mantra with WFP seems to be rinse, rinse again if it's windy then - extra rinsing etc...

The only way I can see it working well is if you fan the brush from side to side - cleaning and rinsing from top to bottom to carry the dirty water down. But hard on the shoulders. :( :(
Most windies I have seen brush vertical up - down.
Inevitably if you leave the brush on the glass you will carry dirty water back up the window that you have already washed down.
So I think if you work that way then in that case you need to rinse.
But I think I rinse too much but you only find out after - when it's too late!!!
P.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: SB Cleaning on November 12, 2013, 06:37:00 pm
Depends on the sill for me, if there is silicon between the joint, the brush is sufficient, if there is a gap and dirt runs out I will wipe with a cloth
+1
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services on November 13, 2013, 04:43:58 pm
For the past fee weeks I've been helping another window cleaner out on a day here and a day there and he is unbelievably fussy on his sills, washes them, pinches off the water flow and will wipe off the sills with his brush, or will use a cloth or will rinse over and over....
His work, his rules but why???!!!

It was really interesting to observe first hand another experienced window cleaners technique.
Watching how particular he was over his sills I then paid attention to my own for the sake of comparison.
Now I do wash my sills and frames automatically and on comparing like for like I initially wondered if there would be much of a difference...

And was there?


Nope, none at all that I could see, I do not fart around with a sill cloth nor go over the top with washing and scrubbing and flicking off any accumulated water and if there was - or is. A difference I'm blowed if I could see one.

He also spends an age rinsing off the glass, even with a high flow rate...again, his work, his rules but what a waste of time!!
Is you have washed the windows properly then you are rinsing as you are washing and rinsing once you have washed the windows is either a lack of confidence in your ability to clean windows with wfp or a mistaken belief that it is necessary to do so.

There are occasions when it will make sense to rinse (although I personally always rinse with the tips of the brush on the glass) but by and large it just isn't necessary...although of course many on here would argue differently  8)

+1
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: James Bulton on November 13, 2013, 08:25:01 pm
Been 7 foot tall I only wipe the first floor sills.
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: robertphil on November 13, 2013, 08:30:42 pm
stood chattin to a WFP  guy today and he was wiping down the whole frame and sill with a cloth after doing the wfp .  

 hes a respected guy who had his business on sale 100k  at one point a few yrs ago , strange thing when i got close noticed his van stunk like old Roquefort
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: pncleaning on November 14, 2013, 05:25:56 pm
Cowboy how many profiles have you got on here?? I see you dannymack to lol ;D
 
Title: Re: wiping cills
Post by: keyser soze on November 14, 2013, 06:24:55 pm
Cowboy how many profiles have you got on here?? I see you dannymack to lol ;D
 


 ??? ??? i don't know what you mean . I've only the one profile