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Title: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 20, 2013, 09:02:49 am
I tested a pre filter the 5 micron that is supposed to remove chlorine & inpurities from water,

tds going was 380 / tds going out 380 ????????????????????

what a waste of money that was
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Don Kee on October 20, 2013, 09:04:39 am
I didnt think prefilter lowered tds?
Just there to protect membranes....
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 20, 2013, 09:09:06 am
it says on the label

function to remove chlorine, inpurities, and dust in the water
application first stage in purifier
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Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Tom White on October 20, 2013, 09:37:26 am
I've never tested a pre-filter before Midsy; have you?  I mean have you anything to compare the one you tested with?
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 20, 2013, 09:45:51 am
Hi Toshy

No ive not tested against any other , I just wanted to see if it would make a difference. and it don't.

you would think it would bring the tds down a bit
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Smudger on October 20, 2013, 09:53:18 am
It may be removing items larger than 5 micron, but that's not to say your water has items larger than 5 microns therefore your TDS will remain the same to see any effect on TDS you would need 1 micron filters

Did you test to see if chorine was removed?

Darran
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: [GQC] Tim on October 20, 2013, 10:17:13 am
I tested a pre filter the 5 micron that is supposed to remove chlorine & inpurities from water,

tds going was 380 / tds going out 380 ????????????????????

what a waste of money that was

pre-filters do not lower tds.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 20, 2013, 10:24:09 am
It may be removing items larger than 5 micron, but that's not to say your water has items larger than 5 microns therefore your TDS will remain the same to see any effect on TDS you would need 1 micron filters

Did you test to see if chorine was removed?

how do i do that

Darran
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: rosskesava on October 20, 2013, 10:37:47 am
TDS means Total Dissolved Solids.

I could be wrong but my understanding is that not all solids are dissolved and anything larger than 5 microns isn't dissolved, as it's in suspension in the water, so the tds wouldn't go down. Also, solids larger than 5 microns could clog up the ro filters. Hence the reason for a sediment filter.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: robert mitchell on October 20, 2013, 10:52:09 am
The above is 100% correct , dissolved solids are not affected by the sediment filter.
The main reason for a sediment filter is to stop tbe carbon filter being blocked up before it stops removing chlorine to  extend filter life .
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Smudger on October 20, 2013, 05:45:42 pm
You would need to buy a testing kit

Most likely an aquarium supplier but I wouldn't worry about it as the carbon filter takes care of chorine

Darran
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: dd on October 20, 2013, 06:20:27 pm
Surely chlorine is a dissolved solid.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: robert mitchell on October 20, 2013, 06:25:50 pm
I stand corrected , chlorine is a dissolved solid .
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Ian Lancaster on October 20, 2013, 07:06:56 pm
I stand corrected , chlorine is a dissolved solid .

Chlorine is a gas.

Used in first world war as a weapon.  It dissolves in water just like oxygen does.

So no, it's not a dissolved solid.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Fin Clearview on October 20, 2013, 07:18:28 pm
This is like an A level science lesson..not that I took it of course! :)
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 20, 2013, 07:38:26 pm
so what's the conclusion on the filter ?????????????? is it a rip off?
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Smudger on October 20, 2013, 07:42:18 pm
Would have thought it's okay

Darran
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: Don Kee on October 20, 2013, 08:14:37 pm
Chlorine isnt a dissolved solid so your tds wouldnt go down. Tds only measures the solids.
As ian has said chlorine is a gas dissolved in water (just like oxygen)but it would harm your membranes so the prefilters are there to protect your membranes
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: G Griffin on October 20, 2013, 09:36:39 pm
so what's the conclusion on the filter ?????????????? is it a rip off?

No.
Keep it in case the First World War starts again.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: heath verrall on October 21, 2013, 07:12:32 am
 ;D
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: home6442 on October 21, 2013, 08:51:52 am
A tds meter is basically a conductivity meter which measures the amount of positively
charged ions dissolved  in the water.
These raise the level of conductivity and show up on the tds meter. Things like salt and so on.
Anything that has negatively charged ions will not show up on a tds meter but will
still be dissolved in the water. Sugar, alcohol and carbon dioxide and so on.
Title: Re: RIP OFF pre fillter
Post by: dd on October 21, 2013, 08:57:45 am
Chlorine does not exist as a gas when it is dissolved in water.

As to the rest of the science I don't know.