Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: colin jones on March 09, 2006, 08:13:08 pm
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I'm currently using Numatic rucksac vacuum, with air driven turbo brush. It's great for stair cleaning contracts that I have.
It's getting to the end of the tax year, and am looking to buy a more powerful vac, as the carpet cleaning is starting to take off. ;D
What are the recommendations? :)
Colin
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Hi Colin,
I use a Sebo BS 46 , very good.
Cheers
Doug
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I use a sebo dart2
Very good too
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I use a sebo BS36, just changed from a Dyson, Sebo loads better.
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Get yourself a second hand Kirby on ebay. Industrial solid metal. Without doubt the best vacuum cleaner available. I had a Sebo BS46 also but the Kirby is that good that now my wife does the housework with the sebo.
Alan
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Get yourself a second hand Kirby on ebay. Industrial solid metal. Without doubt the best vacuum cleaner available. I had a Sebo BS46 also but the Kirby is that good that now my wife does the housework with the sebo.
Alan
Which kirby do you use?
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Ive got a sebo bs36, cant see where theyre that good,i tend to use the dry vac kit with air driven brush on my ninja
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G4. Got to be honest though - I can't see that the difference between models is MUCH more than cosmetic.
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I’ve got a TM don’t need one. ;D ;D
Len
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regarding the kirby i got one of ebay the other day and though impressive not my bag if anyone wants to make me an offer your welcome to it
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Hi,
We use a Kirby and the results are good, but i have one gripe with them. The have a lot of downtime between doing the bulk of the floor and the edging.
If they could only make it simpler to attach the hose ::)
Graeme
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Attn Len
>>I’ve got a TM don’t need one. Grin Grin<<
I use a TM , but I always vaccum with my Sebo 36.
Are you "really" saying that with the suction from a TM that vaccuming is a waste of time? This is not a post to put your comment down, just a matter of interest to see if I can really get away without hours of vaccuming! ;D
Thanks
Ben
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I have a Sebo BS36 and agree with Andy, I dont know what all the fuss is about, durable, yes, but they are just like any other vac.
I thought before I got mine they would have some grunt and really bash the carpet and have more suction, but I was wrong.
Rgds
Phil
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regarding the kirby i got one of ebay the other day and though impressive not my bag if anyone wants to make me an offer your welcome to it
Which model is it, how much and where are you based?
Arthur
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its the heitage 2 with all the exras including the sanding unit and shampooer. full instructiuons with it
i live in sutton surrey
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Iv Also got the sebo 36, not that impressed either
I must admit i hardly ever pre-vac dosent seem to make a difference to me, but i do use a scrubba powerbrush so this agitates and sucks at the same time so gets everything up.
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Last week i conducted a very unscientific experiment with my bs36 and the wifes dyson dc07 on our living room carpet, a 50 ounce wool twist laid that day and obviously shedding fibres like mad, vacuuming in 4 directions, the sebo managed to go over it in 2 directions before the bag was 3/4 full, the dyson (which went after the sebo)didnt manage to complete the first direction before needing emptying, to complete the 4 passes the sebo used 2 bags, the dc07 was emptied 4 times and was half full on finishing, not exactly lab conditions i know but it proved my suspicians,the only advantage i can see in using the sebo in a customers house is that they are a lot less likely to have one sitting in the cupboard.
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I'm very surprised that no manufacturers have produced a commercial Bagless vac' as it's far more user friendly and less likely to cause a smell while in use
This is the main reason I prefer to use water filtration in a client's home. You can actually introduce a pleasant aroma, rather than a stink from leaky paper bags or filters, which 'don't'
I've also found the dyson to be far better than the so called commercials, although they're not very robust.
I do understand the replacement bags represent a substantial profit, but prefer a vacuum to clean without stinking clients homes and working less efficiently than their domestic cleaner
rob m
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Hi,
I also have a DC07 and have tested it against our Kirby.
Not only is the dyson much easier to break, but the filters need cleaned far too often. After using the dyson on a single rug the filter gets blocked and the suction is much reduced. The kirby just goes on and on until the bag is full. I guess this is the difference between bypass and inline vacs. Many more filter changes/washes for the in lines are required to keep it pulling a good vac.
I have modded our DC07 filter unit to keep it sucking for longer, but i think it will just burn it out quicker. I can take pics if anyone wants to see my mod, it does help a little. One more observation... Dont store your dyson near a radiator... they melt very easily.
The beater bars on dysons are far worse than kirby design, we tested it on a 80/20 berber and you could see a lot of dirt remained at the base of the pile when using the dyson. The kirby performs much better on difficult carpets and i wouldnt swap her for the world.
Hope this helps
Graeme
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PS i found this bout DC07s : http://www.crazysquirrel.com/diy/dyson/cylinder-clean-page-1.jspx but be careful, they are so easy to break its unreal.
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I am not so sure that this sort of experiment would prove much in the way of power and amount of dirt & fibres extracted out of the carpet. It may be that that Dyson does not pack as much into the chamber as the Sebo with a bag. I think you would need to weigh the amount of dirt extracted from both machines to reach a conclusion. You also need to take into account how much deep seated ingrained dust & grit it is taking out as opposed to just the surface fluff. I know from my own experience that my Sebo Dart 2 will lift the carpet pile and extract grit from deep down the pile much better than the Dyson, as I have followed with the vacuming straight after the customer has used theirs.
As far as smelly bags are concerned I always use a new bag for each customer as this would be costed in as part of the job. If you leave dirt in the bag especially after cleaning a carpet with animal hairs & dander it will smell awful the next day. You can also add a sachet to your vac bags to give a nice fresh smell in the room.
Derek
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As i said, the experiment was very unscientific,the sebo's bags are 5 litre, these were allowed to go to 3/4 full (3.75 litres) x2 =7.5 litres. the dyson (dc04 not dco7 as stated) has a 4 litre capacity to the full mark,4.5 fills = 18 litres, both had the filters cleaned before hand, i should have weighed the extracted material to check how it is compressed within the bag/cylinder, i dont doubt the fragility of the dyson, the wife ruins them on a regular basis (proper Norfolk girl,puts vacuums in the cupboard like shes loading hay on a wagon ;D), as i said in an earlier post i now use the dry vac kit i got with my machine as i find the air driven brush really gets down into the pile.
I recently ran all 3 and a hunter handheld over an old carpet with a badly compressed pile in an equally unscientific manner and found that the air driven brush lifted the pile the best,with the dyson not far behind, the hunter coming in 3rd (nothing like a bit of hard work!!!) and the sebo giving the worst result of all, lifting the pile in the odd spot but leaving it mainly flat and compressed.
Next week,which jelly is best for plaster repairs, lime and strawberry tested ;D