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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on October 03, 2013, 04:26:56 pm
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just wondering how much you charge for UPVC cleans on regular window cleaning customers.standard smallish 3 bed semis with no conservatory.
includes soffit/facia/outside gutters,garage door(if they have one) and outside downpipes.im currently charging £50-£60 and they take around an hour to clean then the window price on top.
ive cleaned a fair few this spring and summer.good little add on jobs.i usually hook up to customers outside tap with my 20m of extension hose.sill brush on a resi neck and squirt a bit of virosol on brush or fascia before hand.some think im too expensive so decline but most go for it.it makes their property so much nicer to look at! ;) ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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same price..no garage doors and downpipes if im in a good mood :)
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Yep sounds about right with the gable end soffit and facia inc.
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£30 front
£30 back
no gables
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Hi Daz
im trad but from ur post do i take it its possible to get a brush that can just coonect up directly to tap?
i wudve thought pressure not high enuf to be effective at gutter height but i take it from ur post it is?
which pole wud be best for a tradder just looking for pole to clean fascias at the mo, i currently powerwash them from a ladder :)
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Hmmm.. I am too cheap on these then. I hate doing them. I quoted £60 for a 4 bed semi with a full width conny. Fascias above are black. Price accepted by a new custy but I struggle to price these.
I would be happy with a start price of £50 though for a very small semi without a conny so will adopt that.
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the gable ends only take a few mins so i always include them.also i clean any extension outside gutters and soffits.the whole job.keeps the customers happy.i dont see the point in leaving any upvc uncleaned.obviously if they are really filthy then id charge a bit more than £50-£60. :)
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8 weekly i charge £80-£120 for full UPVC cleans on 4 and 5 bedroom houses depending on how dirty they are.
they are harder work but not as bad with extreme pole and radius sill brush.
tom yes you can just connect to customers outside tap if they have one.id say a cheap budget pole like a clx 22 from gardiners would be ok for the job with a radius sill brush.
after a while you can price these jobs up easily and get em down to a good time cleaning wise. ;)
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i also always book them in next time i clean their windows so i do the job, then the windows and add the window price to the bill. :)
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After doing a few of these too cheap and knocking my bolloks off for what ended up as less money than I earn from windows I now quote these high, i'm not bothered if they decline, in fact I usually hope they decline as i have enough windows to keep me busy anyway. £60 is min for a small house now.
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£25 to £35 per side depending on size of house .... if small 2 bedder with just front and rear gutters then £20 a side which takes me about 20 mins in total
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Similar price to you Daz, maybe a little bit more expensive.
Most of our gutter/fascia cleans are 1 offs though, not regular customers and I charge upwards of £100, even for small 3 bed semis. I've only had 2 people this year say no due to price which makes me think I should be increasing my prices for next year. :)
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good prices there danny!maybe im a little soft with my long standing regular customers but im happy with my pricing. ;) :)
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i had an enquiry tonight
lady wanted all fascia soffits and conny roof and all windows cleaning one off
i said £65.00, which i thought would be a little under priced then there was...silence
"im guessing you have had a cheaper quote"
"i had a leaflet, last year, £26.00"
" at that price he can come clean mine, were is he now"
"not seen him since last year"
"and your surprised"
we parted on good terms
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Similar price to you Daz, maybe a little bit more expensive.
Most of our gutter/fascia cleans are 1 offs though, not regular customers and I charge upwards of £100, even for small 3 bed semis. I've only had 2 people this year say no due to price which makes me think I should be increasing my prices for next year. :)
I turn down one off conny/fascias. There are easier ways to make money. If and when I employ........
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bob one offs are a different story!if it was a 3 bed semi with conny then id charge at least £120 for all that.i get £60 just for conny roofs on my regular jobs!
say you got the job at £65.i reckon it would take you an hour for the roof and an hour for soffits/facias and outside gutters including set up time then 30 mins for the windows if they ve not been cleaned for ages.so you d get £65 for 2 and a half hours work.i would not be happy with that!ok the soffits/gutters might not take an hour but you ve still got to drive to and from the job.
regards
dazmond
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took on a new customer who told me the previous fellah did their fascias etc every month along with the windows . iv said will do em every 2nd clean tho i might backpeddle on it due to the nuisance factor. iv said 20 quid per side
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bob one offs are a different story!if it was a 3 bed semi with conny then id charge at least £120 for all that.i get £60 just for conny roofs on my regular jobs!
say you got the job at £65.i reckon it would take you an hour for the roof and an hour for soffits/facias and outside gutters including set up time then 30 mins for the windows if they ve not been cleaned for ages.so you d get £65 for 2 and a half hours work.i would not be happy with that!ok the soffits/gutters might not take an hour but you ve still got to drive to and from the job.
regards
dazmond
totally agree daz and has i said i had under priced it...but £26.00
she will keep on calling people till she gets nearest the £26.00
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Similar price to you Daz, maybe a little bit more expensive.
Most of our gutter/fascia cleans are 1 offs though, not regular customers and I charge upwards of £100, even for small 3 bed semis. I've only had 2 people this year say no due to price which makes me think I should be increasing my prices for next year. :)
I turn down one off conny/fascias. There are easier ways to make money. If and when I employ........
Why refuse them? If you don't really want to do that work, just keep upping your prices until your at a point that they are worth doing. You'd be amazed at what some people are prepared to pay for gutter/conservatory/soffit cleaning.
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bob one offs are a different story!if it was a 3 bed semi with conny then id charge at least £120 for all that.i get £60 just for conny roofs on my regular jobs!
say you got the job at £65.i reckon it would take you an hour for the roof and an hour for soffits/facias and outside gutters including set up time then 30 mins for the windows if they ve not been cleaned for ages.so you d get £65 for 2 and a half hours work.i would not be happy with that!ok the soffits/gutters might not take an hour but you ve still got to drive to and from the job.
regards
dazmond
Daz you working on around £30 p/hr or there abouts .... ? Of topic ...
Do you use the same principle on pricing say commercial work depending what it is ...
Would that vary depending on heights / number of floors
Just I've gotta a job that travel time total 1hr (that's there and back) and I recogn initially 3 hours cleaning till you get to grips and no way around site .. So after time that would reduce ...
Just in deliemma to do hour rate or base it on different factors like no of floors etc...
Want to try and price in not out of the job but be realistic too ( and that's not going cheap to get the work)
Off topic but saves me starting a post and it also has fascias etc.. 😄😄 new the minute though lol
Thanks
Paul
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i agree danny.i dont get many one offs but when i do i have to make them worth my while or i cant be bothered with em.
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paul i work on £30-£40 an hour on regular domestic window cleaning.i earn more an hour on some large domestics and commercial though.
i have no idea how much to charge mate as i wouldnt drive 30 mins to a job and 30 mins back.all my work is within 10 miles.most within 6 miles from home.
most of my commercial are £50-£60 an hour jobs.(medium size offices).
add on jobs are also £50-£60 an hour as they are harder work and take me away from my regular window cleaning work.
best wishes
dazmond
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paul i work on £30-£40 an hour on regular domestic window cleaning.i earn more an hour on some large domestics and commercial though.
i have no idea how much to charge mate as i wouldnt drive 30 mins to a job and 30 mins back.all my work is with 10 miles.most within 6 miles from home.
most of my commercial are £50-£60 an hour jobs.(medium size offices).
add on jobs are also £50-£60 an hour as they are harder work and take me away from my regular window cleaning work.
best wishes
dazmond
cheers
I don't mind travelling for large commercial ... Traveling is costed in so it's not as though I lose out and I quite enjoy a bit change of location ..
Forgot to say this one will have the cost of a new pole factored into it too and spread over the 12 months ;D
Cheers
Paul
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just wondering how much you charge for UPVC cleans on regular window cleaning customers.standard smallish 3 bed semis with no conservatory.
includes soffit/facia/outside gutters,garage door(if they have one) and outside downpipes.im currently charging £50-£60 and they take around an hour to clean then the window price on top.
ive cleaned a fair few this spring and summer.good little add on jobs.i usually hook up to customers outside tap with my 20m of extension hose.sill brush on a resi neck and squirt a bit of virosol on brush or fascia before hand.some think im too expensive so decline but most go for it.it makes their property so much nicer to look at! ;) ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
I've found it very dangerous to offer a clean at £50 to £60, for existing customers more so.
If they're existing customers then they'll already have all their frames washed down etc.
We generally will not take a customer on without charging a premium for the first clean, which could be more or less than what you've quoted. Some upvc does come up like new after a water wash, others need UPVC cleaner etc applying to the windows by ladder. If this is the case then we usually break down the price to make it more affordable. i.e this month we clean all the front up, next month we clean all the side or back up etc.. But then i'm digressing a bit as this would be for new customers as existing (like you asked about) would have already been done on the first clean and subsequent cleans? I suppose also it depends upon how you market your service,if you say all windows cleaned and upvc frames also, then it leaves your question of how much for a UPVC clean looking more like how much for gutters and soffits. How longs a piece of string?
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£130 Fascia, soffits, gutters & Downpipe
Extra £25 for garage door.
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Extra £25 for garage door.
HI Danny, how do you get a fixed price for your garage doors? We've found that flat panel ones are easier to clean than the ribbed type hence we charge a premium for the ribbed type.
Also we've noticed that the larger doors take longer to clean than the smaller doors, so we always do a careful measurement beforehand. We seem to have nailed it down to £0.55 per sq metre for a wash, £1.05 per sq metre for a deep clean with a loading of £0.25 per sq metre (across the board [pardon the pun])for ribbed types.
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I clean with brush soap and water and that is my maximum charge.
If the doors are larger than average the fee increases but £25 is for standard door. If its flat its still £25 but easier to clean.
I don't clean on size but on estimated time. I usually leave one lad to do the doors while other crack on with rest of house.
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we all run our businesses different including pricing.if a regular customer wants me to clean their garage door on a smallish semi then i charge £5.it takes 5 mins! ;D ;D
cleanclear you do make me laugh!whats dangerous about offering upvc cleans for £50-£60? ;D ;D
true! regular customers have their frames,doors,sills cleaned as well as glass every time which makes the rest of the house look dirty after a few years!soffits/fascias/outside gutters/downpipes,panelling starts to look bad!so i offer to clean them for............you know whats coming!.......£50-£60! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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£25 for a garage door, you must be joking!
I charge between £2 and £5 for these, they take minutes, I even throw them in as a freebie sometimes to keep the customer sweet.
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i doubt danny will get many people shelling out £25 for a garage door clean! ;) ;D ;D ;Dsome of my better priced larger domestics get their garage doors cleaned every month in with the windows.
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£130 Fascia, soffits, gutters & Downpipe
Extra £25 for garage door.
£25 for a garage door !!!
Just price it into the job and when you do it tell the custy " just cleaned the garage door mrs smith " they love it and think they have got something free
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Just going to change over to wfp so interested in all these different charging structures etc. I must admit, some of the prices sound great, however, the garage door comment cant be serious. £25.00 to clean a garage door that takes about 5 mins (10 at best) if i told some of my customers that it would cost them that they would tell me where to stick my pole for sure. :)
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ive never understood why people dont want to clean gutter fascia etc
its easy money
small terrace front and back £40 takes me less than hour
3 bed semi £30 a side =£60-£90 over a hour
detached which i rarely do £120 around two hours maybe more sometimes
i normally clean a couple of week..would like them everyday
easy set up...generally plug into customers tap and away you go
two £90 semis a day im not greedy i would chuck garage door in for
free,then would happily trip off home talk about easy life :)
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ive never understood why people dont want to clean gutter fascia etc
its easy money
small terrace front and back £40 takes me less than hour
3 bed semi £30 a side =£60-£90 over a hour
detached which i rarely do £120 around two hours maybe more sometimes
i normally clean a couple of week..would like them everyday
easy set up...generally plug into customers tap and away you go
two £90 semis a day im not greedy i would chuck garage door in for
free,then would happily trip off home talk about easy life :)
They are sometimes very hard work. Over a conny especially. However, I have taken on board what some have said regarding pricing and will quote very high for them from now on.
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Just asking again on this subject.
I assume by the comments that you guys dont use your water "filtered water" for the fascia boards and gutters as no need and just normal tap water will do the job? i assume that if doing windows you then switch to pure water tank.
Finally, what is the best brush for doing the majority of these jobs as i wouldnt want to use the same brush as i use for the windows, wouldnt want loads of grit and crap in it. Some of the fascia boards are difficult to get underneath the gutter, so which is the best brush guys?
Thanks in advance guys.
Steve
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hi steve i normally plug into customers outside taps with my 20m of extension hose that i have specifically for add on jobs like conny roofs and UPVC cleans.not always though.
i find the medium bristle radius sill brush on a resi neck from gardiners perfect for these jobs.i use my extreme pole which makes things easier due to the lightness and rigidity.
i also either spray virosol directly on my brush just before cleaning or on the fascia/soffit/guttering/conny roof using a 5l pressure sprayer.
and yes i switch back to pure when cleaning their windows after finishing the job. ;) :)
hope that helps
regards
dazmond
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Thanks Dazmond, some good info there much appreciated.
Cheers
Steve
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hi steve i normally plug into customers outside taps with my 20m of extension hose that i have specifically for add on jobs like conny roofs and UPVC cleans.not always though.
i find the medium bristle radius sill brush on a resi neck from gardiners perfect for these jobs.i use my extreme pole which makes things easier due to the lightness and rigidity.
i also either spray virosol directly on my brush just before cleaning or on the fascia/soffit/guttering/conny roof using a 5l pressure sprayer.
and yes i switch back to pure when cleaning their windows after finishing the job. ;) :)
hope that helps
regards
dazmond
+1 in entirety
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on an average semi i charge £35 per side and have no problem getting this price
i resent the idea that i am ripping custys off with these prices, i clearly give the custy the price and what is involved with the job and its up to them whether they want to take my service on or not .
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I charge £90 for fascias on 3 bed semi, £110 if they want outside gutters and pipes cleaning too.
Don't get them all at that price, but get over 50%
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We actively chase this type of work and price similar to Daz, a great way to pull these type of jobs is to scrub a section clean between clips on the front of the house, we then show the customer the cleaned section and tell them the price, even if you get a no on the day they always seem to come on board eventually, we do the same with conny roofs, scrub one panel clean, it's our version of " would you like fries with that"
Graham
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I clean with brush soap and water and that is my maximum charge.
If the doors are larger than average the fee increases but £25 is for standard door. If its flat its still £25 but easier to clean.
I don't clean on size but on estimated time. I usually leave one lad to do the doors while other crack on with rest of house.
25 quid for a door are u sure then again u do use soap and water :o
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" would you like fries with that"
Graham
;D
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A question for all you chaps who hook up to the customers water supply to clean upvc and polycarbonate roofing.
Doesn't mineral deposition from the unfiltered water supply detract, to some degree, from the finish; the shine that would otherwise be achieve had you of used the pure water, or are your customers tds readings low enough that you find it inconsequential?
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ive just done one yesturday gutter, clean facias down pipes for 70 qid i dint realy want the job so just quoted that and the custy said is that all ??? it was a 3 bed semi took me a hour and a half. im in west yorks
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I simply charge for following
Fascia & Downpipes - £25
Conservatory - £70 (Due to risk & equipment need to clean it.
However I am Scotland but I use a UPVC cleaner spray and then use a hard brush to clean it.
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A question for all you chaps who hook up to the customers water supply to clean upvc and polycarbonate roofing.
Doesn't mineral deposition from the unfiltered water supply detract, to some degree, from the finish; the shine that would otherwise be achieve had you of used the pure water, or are your customers tds readings low enough that you find it inconsequential?
Water here is horrible (400tds sometimes)
I use the customers tap for almost the whole clean then just the final rinse with pure.
Works a treat
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A question for all you chaps who hook up to the customers water supply to clean upvc and polycarbonate roofing.
Doesn't mineral deposition from the unfiltered water supply detract, to some degree, from the finish; the shine that would otherwise be achieve had you of used the pure water, or are your customers tds readings low enough that you find it inconsequential?
Nice one Darren! Thanks for the reply. I wonder if your cleaning protocols are adopted by any of the other guys who use their customers water supply.
Water here is horrible (400tds sometimes)
I use the customers tap for almost the whole clean then just the final rinse with pure.
Works a treat
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That should have looked like this:
Nice one Darren! Thanks for the reply. I wonder if your cleaning protocols are adopted by any of the other guys who use their customers water supply.
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Cheers.
Dunno...
I can't be the only one.
I'm tight so I save where I can ;D