Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dannymack on September 26, 2013, 06:43:43 pm
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Had Becci do a few hours for me and managed to get me X4 Appointments to four nursing homes start one next week waiting on other three.. Hurry she a busy bee 😜😛😃and she's very cute !!!
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She has done me proud also... ;D
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Reminds me of a Blackadder sketch.
Series 2 episode 3 "Potato"
Captain Redbeard Rum (Tom Baker) "Aaarh, courtiers to the Queen, you're nothing but lapdogs to a slip of a girl!"
;D
Now, find the riposte to that ... it's a good 'un!
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We don't mind as long as we're building our company's up with the help of Bex !!!
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Thanks Dannymack and Smudgeoff, glad I could help!
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Becci just want to give a bit of sage advice, now youve proven to alot of people you can deliver. Your next job is to extract as much money as possible out of these guys. I think you'll have alot more fun if your taking chunks of £300+ of people. 8)
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Becci, I can't see your address on your profile, it may just be the format on my phone. Would you kindly contact me to discuss some matters?
Joe
josefdbromley@gmail.com
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Becci just want to give a bit of sage advice, now youve proven to alot of people you can deliver. Your next job is to extract as much money as possible out of these guys. I think you'll have alot more fun if your taking chunks of £300+ of people. 8)
Sorry, I must be a bit thick.
Could you re write that in plain English.
Thanks.
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What Im getting at is, Becci obviously has a bit of talent. Now if she charged the same hourly rate but just got the cleaners to book in for instead of 4 hours say 15-20 or even 30 hour slots.
A: You know that she will pull more leads, hence happier clients as 4 hours on the phone isn't very long
B: Have more time to chase new biz, as skint cleaners wont eat into her time as they wont enquire
C: Again have more time because instead of sourcing data and dealing with 6 guys she can just focus on 1 for the same money.
D: By booking in bigger time chunks its better job security because you know where you are each week.
So in closing what I'm saying is we all like Becci and personally I think she is doing alright and her wage packet should reflect that.
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maybe she can give you sage advice whizz- she seems more popular at the moment ;)
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What Im getting at is, Becci obviously has a bit of talent. Now if she charged the same hourly rate but just got the cleaners to book in for instead of 4 hours say 15-20 or even 30 hour slots.
A: You know that she will pull more leads, hence happier clients as 4 hours on the phone isn't very long
B: Have more time to chase new biz, as skint cleaners wont eat into her time as they wont enquire
C: Again have more time because instead of sourcing data and dealing with 6 guys she can just focus on 1 for the same money.
D: By booking in bigger time chunks its better job security because you know where you are each week.
So in closing what I'm saying is we all like Becci and personally I think she is doing alright and her wage packet should reflect that.
Maybe she prefers shorter slots? Longer slots are fine when people are paying for them. However, when you lose them there's not so much to fall back on. Eggs and baskets maybe?
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A bit of sage advice for anyone hoping to extract money from visitors to this website is not to post on a Friday night unless you don't drink. ;)
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I thought it was beccis business and that would means its upto her how she runs it.just my opinion.
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I do wonder if wizbiz is sawing off between him and the tree trunk the branch he is sitting on ...
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Guys when I put that up I didnt really expect to go into the popular book, and no I wasnt boozy, and yes its her business. I just think 4 hours isnt enough you need to get quite lucky in that time. Lets not forget for every 4 happy people posting on here theres been 1 thats not happy. On a bigger scale thats 20% miffed people. Raise the hours lower the miffedness.
Let me ask the question do you guys clean windows to earn good money or do you clean windows to be the most popular person on a street ?
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Hi
FAO Becci
If you contact me I would be interested in using your services.
Regards
John
John@leicestercleaners.com
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Becci just want to give a bit of sage advice, now youve proven to alot of people you can deliver. Your next job is to extract as much money as possible out of these guys. I think you'll have alot more fun if your taking chunks of £300+ of people. 8)
Nice way to show you see us all as marks to extract as much cash from as possible. We all know that's what canvassers aim for but few are quite so willing to rub our noses in it.
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Becci just want to give a bit of sage advice, now youve proven to alot of people you can deliver. Your next job is to extract as much money as possible out of these guys. I think you'll have alot more fun if your taking chunks of £300+ of people. 8)
Nice way to show you see us all as marks to extract as much cash from as possible. We all know that's what canvassers aim for but few are quite so willing to rub our noses in it.
My business is here to assist your businesses grow through obtaining meetings with decision makers in companies you are interested in working with. Telemarketing can be very tedious for people where this isn't their specialism, and for people who are used to be out and about and not tied to a desk!
I have a minimum of 4 hours per session, some customers choose to do this and more on a regular basis, others contact me as and when they feel they need/want to take on additional work. My theory is if I provide good results, these people will be looking to invest further in telemarketing through my business.
Sure having more clients put a larger number of hours through my business regularly makes my life easier, however I am someone who looks at the bigger picture, and no one ever said running a business was easy!
'Skint' clients, as Whizz puts it, are people looking for more work - hence to no longer be 'skint' in the future! I'm not going to outprice my services from them if they are willing to put in the effort at gaining new business.
I have said to Whizz before that we seem to have a very different idea of business and customer service, half the things I have seen him write I disagree with however if this is how he chooses to run his business thats fine if he finds it works for him?
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I dont see my clients as marks, but I do know that when all is done and dusted the majority wont really care if at the end of it all, if all their canvasser has for christmas dinner is a frozen pizza. If any canvasser believes anything less than that their delusional. As canvassers we only ever have 1 slice of the cake and thats that, Id be an idiot if I didnt look to take as much money as possible.
Whilst Id never look to compromise on the quality of my service, or the quality of my deals. I realise that I will not and cannot bull#### people and if my honesty offends or is mistaken for rubbing peoples noses in it, Id rather be known for that than a bull#######.
I also know that if someone came along offering the same high service at less money whether its me or Becci the majority of people would jump onto them.
Im not sure if anyones noticed but I really dont get any complaints from people that have ACTUALLY paid me money only ones who have been refused credit, or cut short on the phone.
Also just incase anyones noticed Beccis had more complaints than me in 4 months than Ive had in 5 years, my advice was merely put forward to bring this down and at the same time up her income. WIN-WIN anyways I shant be offering green canvassers any more advice good luck, peace out, good luck.
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Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.
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Whizz I'm sure it's easier to canvass houses than it is commercial as there's much more houses about, I could go round canvassing houses if that's what I wanted to do or get A5 sheets with my business hand them into the local shop at a small fee to put inside local papers that get delivered. I know if I canvass business's they will never ring prob just throw in the bin so it's easier and more professional to get a telesales to do this for you as the percentage of an appointment will
Be much greater. Becci got me 4 commercial properties of which I start one next week which easy covers the payout costs. I'm still waiting on the other 3 but hey if they don't come off not to worried as ill profit from the one and another commercial job on my books which these days getting commercial work is hard to get !!! Not knocking ya just letting you know the way it is and good luck with what you do as we've all gotta earn to have a good living !!!! 😁😳😜
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I dont let initially let anybody new give me a list, to start with, as I know my business, I know whats going to work and whats not, as I know exactly whats going to be on that list. Danny no its not hard to canvass commercial stuff theres tons of us that do it, no myth
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Ultimately telesales+knocking are not that dis similar. There both numbers games, there both people buying from people. All I was trying to achieve was to pass over some decent advice, and if people decide to take me up on all off it, some of it, or none of it, thats up to them. perhaps I could of worded it better. I actually wish when I started someone more experienced had pulled me to 1 side and clued me up, instead of letting me sell too cheap and mugging my self off. If your happy at 4 hours, youd be ecstatic at 12 hours and my comment was more about raising minimal standards/criteria.
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Marketing in any kind of form, whether telesales, door knocking etc - you HAVE to take on board the person that is doing it - theres no point being disapointed when you haven't actually put a thermometer in your area to test the area yourself - people need to do that - before putting expectations on companies like yourself and me and Becci. Pick the phone up make 100 calls then go to somebody and say yea Ive done 100 calls I know what this area is like, and these are my expectations. Rabbits and hats. Danny Mack no its not difficult you havent suddenly found the holy grail as I say http://www.peopleperhour.com/ tons of telesales people for everybody that will do exactly the same job as Becci and myself. Its nothing new im 23 years in
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Yes numbers Whizz - your clued in, and you know how it works.
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Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.
I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.
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Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.
I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.
"Haters" are anyone that disagrees with Mick. ;)
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I dont see my clients as marks, but I do know that when all is done and dusted the majority wont really care if at the end of it all, if all their canvasser has for christmas dinner is a frozen pizza. If any canvasser believes anything less than that their delusional. As canvassers we only ever have 1 slice of the cake and thats that, Id be an idiot if I didnt look to take as much money as possible.
Whilst Id never look to compromise on the quality of my service, or the quality of my deals. I realise that I will not and cannot bull#### people and if my honesty offends or is mistaken for rubbing peoples noses in it, Id rather be known for that than a bull#######.
I also know that if someone came along offering the same high service at less money whether its me or Becci the majority of people would jump onto them.
Im not sure if anyones noticed but I really dont get any complaints from people that have ACTUALLY paid me money only ones who have been refused credit, or cut short on the phone.
Also just incase anyones noticed Beccis had more complaints than me in 4 months than Ive had in 5 years, my advice was merely put forward to bring this down and at the same time up her income. WIN-WIN anyways I shant be offering green canvassers any more advice good luck, peace out, good luck.
Whizz as you have already mentioned I deal with many more companies per week than you do - I have up to 15 companies per week whereas you have 1. Nature of the work, and not just telemarketing but window cleaning too as I have read, you can't please everyone! But my positive comments outway the negative.
I always work to the brief I am given, and although I will advise the best approach, 'the customer is always right' - you start telling people how to run their business and they will most likely walk away from you!
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Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.
I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.
"Haters" are anyone that disagrees with Mick. ;)
Ah, so loads of us then ;D ;D
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I've started a war here, only advised yous to try Becci's services lol 😄
I think some canvassers are get peed as they want more work there way than Becs pmsl 😁😜😳😜
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Becci I would like to know more about your services,would you contact me @ clearview2009@mail.com
Thanks
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Swan, Swanster, Swanny my green canvassing friend ::)roll , I deal with about 20-30 cleaners a month. Factor in the 500 or so fresh residential bookings a month I knock in and the 2-4 telesales campaigns a month that I do. I know what its like to deal with multiple jobs and its a nightmare, my suggestion was merely aimed at raising your pay, whilst making things easier for you.
The way I operate is different and I actually disagree with your comment in regards to telling people how to run their business, Which I do to an extent. I have very strict rules in regards to how my packages work and if they go maverick on me I cant actually guarantee anything. Thats in place to ensure the best results.
In my clients eyes I am the marketing expert, and they follow my procedures, or they earn less money.
Would anyone here go to the dentist and start telling the dentist how to do a route canal ? No.
Reason being he is the expert in the patients eyes. Its the same principle.
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Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really
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Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really
Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?
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Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really
Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?
make war ;D
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Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really
Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?
Tin cans and a long length of string? ;D
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Hi Becci, could you drop me an email to s.coxwindowcleaning@gmail.com
Kind regards
Steve
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Having used a canvasser this summer i have to say i like the way Becci said she can advise but the customer is always right.
My canvasser who was recommended (but also told is a numpty, but gets good work) gave me his advice, said how he felt things should be done etc. Listened to what i wanted to offer, then did what he wanted.
The main gripe being that he said i should not offer anything less than 8 weekly cleans.
I wanted to offer 4 - 8 ..one off cleans etc.....basically on the doorstep, see what the customer wants and try to work with it. After plenty of arguments over many things we parted ways, the main thing was he would not accept that on the doorstep he is representing my company, my ways of cleaning etc.....and that i paid his wages. Same as my customers pay mine.
He tried to make out it is something really hard to do. Yes there are different methods, but at end of the day its a numbers game and confidence to knock the doors or pick up the phone. I only used him because i needed to build a round fast and hadnt enough spare time myself.
Might have gone slightly off topic, but i do think we can all give our advice to people or say how we run our companies. But end of the day my company, becci's, whizz.......we all run them how we want to run them.
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I see where your coming from whizz and think beci and others have missinterpreted what you meant as advice.
If im right from reading between the lines your saying that instead of booking her for a few hours (4 min) to stop any bad reviews of her getting poor or few results from the cleaners who expect the world for £40 to instead take bookings of 15 hours plus which would pretty much guarantee a few contracts and maybe a more full on cleaner who appreatiates her time without the need to make any complaints or poor reviews on her.
If im wrong shoot me but its how i read it.
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Becci Swan
Hi Becci Swan, are you still taking new work, if so please email me to bvt333@gmail.com
Regards
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Haha mick a life changing event for 40 quid ;))
Yea i think that's what whizz is trying to say its true she won't run into many of those with larger hour block sales
But becci is doing alright she is switched on people are using her
On a regular basis and she try's her best , cares and wants to do her best even for the 3 hour booker
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Thanks Becci for all the good appointments you've got me for the care homes !!! I e bagged them all nearly just waiting on a few more. Fellas if you want to hit abit of the commercial sector Becci's your girl.
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if you want >:(to start a canvassers war do it else where its getting quite tire some
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Dave don't read it then and does the F stand for F off !!!
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Its an open forum everyones entitled to voice an opinion, when I first started and i was doing £1000 upfront no small deposit etc I got tore to shreds, I listened to what everyone was saying and prefered and evolved. You can only improve by experience and listening to others. Anyone thats doing the job properly deserves some credos. Ive got no issue with Becci and genuinely want her to fly and do well.
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Whizz biz,
I cannot believe how you even bother to try and educate some of us on here, and how you seem to have a go at Becci Swan, and I can't even believe how she keeps very professional in her replies.
You said for every 4 happy people, 1 won't be happy,,,,,,,, that's a superb reference for her, because a lot on this forum can't wait to belittle and slag people off when they try and be helpful or offer advice.
I think you should concentrate on whatever you do, and get over trying to put her down, because its cheap.
I haven't spoken to Becci but she seems like a very nice person.
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Whizz biz,
I cannot believe how you even bother to try and educate some of us on here, and how you seem to have a go at Becci Swan, and I can't even believe how she keeps very professional in her replies.
You said for every 4 happy people, 1 won't be happy,,,,,,,, that's a superb reference for her, because a lot on this forum can't wait to belittle and slag people off when they try and be helpful or offer advice.
I think you should concentrate on whatever you do, and get over trying to put her down, because its cheap.
I haven't spoken to Becci but she seems like a very nice person.
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Seems like sour grapes from whizz due to becci doesnt want to do business with you whizz.