Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andrew chrysler on March 07, 2006, 04:47:40 pm
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Anyone going to Colorado on holiday with a bit of room in their suitcase?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rug-Doctor-Carpet-Steam-Cleaner-Shampooer-Extractor_W0QQitemZ4443648270QQcategoryZ20611QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just look how cheap the Yanks are getting things!
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Just proves yet again how we are ripped off over here on just about anything we purchase.
Some suppliers will try to justify high prices by saying goods have to be imported,so how can we buy a british car abroad for thousands less than here even taking into account shipping costs?
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Simply demand and supply.
The 'yanks' charge on average around .15p a foot compared to us but its all relative.
Anywhy why you wanting a rug doctor anyways.
Mark
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Mark, I understand what you say about the prices being relative but no one in the states charges 15p. Even commercial get more than that. Most cleaners worth anything as we all are charge about 25p a foot but again it is relative. Still doesnt alter the fact that here in Britain we are ripped off. But this story has been gone into before so,,,, best, Dave.
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The seller can post the Rug Doctor Carpet Steam Cleaner Shampooer Extractor to the UK, is this worth it? Is this machine good for a starter?
Kind regards,
Arthur
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on your point fo being ripped of insurance 2005 £126.00 H.S.B.C.......2006 £2060.00 H.S.B.C NOW THATS A RIP OFF!!
that is for genral cleaning does not include outside windows...
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What if someone bought these at £311 shipped it over Say £90, you'd be lucky they are charging £46 within the US, To ship 4 kilos in poster tube 4 ft long has just cost me £86
Then you did'nt pay the VAT and Duty on it up to £15 is free over £15 is liable for both ( naughty naughty)( and it's going to be XRAY'ed because it is imported) and if caught would definatly get you inspected at somepoint in the near future, no point claim ingnorance as ingnorance is no defence!
Then did'nt change all the motors ( there are three of them VAC PUMP and BRUSH from 110V to 240 but just bought a transformer say £45 for a cheapy one
So thats 311+90+45 £446 ex vat and duty so not a white/straight machine but a very very grey import and that's if you don't get caught......
Or put "Rug Doctor wide track" into GoogleUK and click on the first link and get it in the uk in 240V spec £424.68+vat with the hand tool (and I did'nt look to see if it was any cheaper eleswhere)
SOThe question is are we really being ripped off as I am left wondering how the UK guy does it for that ?
Ps The machine is great for as a hire/domestic machine but thats about all, care homes use them to keepon topof things and suck up granny wee!
not really something you would base a business on capacity is small and therefore needs to be refiled and emptyed a lot!
Arthur you can hire one at No Frills Diy in Benton and have a go for £25 a day and try before you buy.
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Thanks Paul, very informative ;D ;D
Kind regards,
Arthur
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Paul, yes we are getting ripped off but thats another story.... In the US it costs 2 dollars a pound to send stuff from the US to England.... Dont know why you had to spend 86 pounds. best, Dave.
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$2 a pound who with!
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Could you explain the concept of '' being ripped off ''
rob
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Paid that with FedEX beause i would like it in one piece insured and delivered to me,and if it arrives broken I can sign and then claim.
Rug doctor 240V and those motor weight less than 110V weights
Weight: 16.3 kg = 35.86 pounds x $2= $71.75
So let me get this right, you can get it shiped to the UK for less than they are charging to ship it with the continental united states? are you forgetting packaging maybe?
"Postage Cost Services Available Delivery Time* Available to
US $79.95 UPS Ground 1 to 6 working days United States only "
Honestly Hats off to you! can you get me a 40ft container shgipped at those prices I feel a spending spee coming on!
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p.s US factory warrenty means nothing here.
The UK machine has to have a 12 month warrenty by law as it is sold in this country. And your contract is with the suppiler.
Still trying to work out where we are gettin ripped off. but obvioulsy missing by a mile?
Glides are another one like this, you can save a few quid buying online but if they break you don't have the satisfaction of poking the suppilers eye out at CARPEX do you, unless you get on a plane ;D
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Containers are different of course but if you are looking to move a lot of stuff then you should use pallets as they are done by size not always weight. I think but dont quote me on this that 2 dollars a pound is up to 80 lbs. Believe me on this as over the last 2 years I have sent or had sent over 100 boxes of stuff...... Oh yeah Fed Ex and UPS are about 4 times as much as the US Postal Service. .........I sent over a canoe yes a canoe that weighed 38 pounds and it cost me just under 100 dollars, the extra was because it was over a size limit, either way a little more than you were paying. Fed Ex wanted 380 dollars and UPS wanted 420, I went with the Post Office...... Last example, I sent over my truckmount with loads of other stuff, 300 feet of 2 inch hose 300 feet of 3/8 solution hose, lances, wands, sprayers and like i said loads of stuff, cant remember what it all weighed but close to 1800 pounds I am sure.... It cost me 960 dollars..... and that was it being flown here to LHR not by an actual ship........Hope this helps, best, Dave.
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Paul to give you an idea of why in England we are ripped off. Doesnt matter what my truckmount is so here goes. I bought it, had it flown here, picked it up from customs and the storage people paid all charges from start to finish and it cost me 9,320 pounds and a bit of change and that included many other goodies like i have said earlier...... Just the truckmount here is close to 16,000 pounds with out any goodies........ sliders are 5 pound each here whereas in ther US they are 2 dollars and 50 thats almost three times the price..... corner guards are twice the price here, shall I go on.... Best, Dave.
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Who suports the warrenty on you machine?
And again I ask how you can get it shiped to the UK for less than ground shipping in the US form this seller which is the model I based my rough calculations on?
Flown a TM over at 250lbs last week and it was more expensive than that to LHR and how did you manage the customs ? as you don't mention using an agent.
Hell what ever you answer I would still buy the rug doctor with the english plug for £20 less and pay the VAT ( which can be reclaimed if your registered)
Think what I am trying to say is sometimes false economy comes into play, and the glides i mentioned are close to the £95UK mark or £87 + shipping from the US. Just not enough in it to bother with the hassle
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I know the machine so wasnt concerned with the warranty, not only that how often do they go wrong with in the time limit ,anyway, also the distributor in this country off the record took on my machine.....My portable weighs 185 pounds, what tm weighs 250??? with regards the better deals the more you buy the better obviously you will be, just the small stuff isnt worth it...... For the record for what its worth I have just spoken to my lot in California and they are sending me a spotting machine, two glides and a few other goodies for a total of 120 dollars, dont know what else to say, best, Dave.
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Put me down for the same, which agent and how do you get from110v to 240V
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I dont use 240 I keep it at 110.... If you are doing commercial work in theory you arent alowed to use 240...
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...If you are doing commercial work in theory you arent alowed to use 240...
Why?
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because you are only alowed to use 110 volts on a buiding site and or in a commercial building. If you are carrying out anywork in a public building you have to use 110 volts. Dont quote me on this but as far as I know if you have a machine powered out side of a building be it a c/c machine or a drill and it is being used inside, it must also be 110 volts but again I am not too certain on that. Not only that but why would you want a machine outside in the rain with 240 volts and you on the end of it??? Best, Dave.
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So you have a Steamway (good machine) as hinted from your other post
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=17162.0
"Steamways isnt the best of sites but does show and go through all you need to see.... and you can see my truck mount too..... best, Dave. "
Will Alltec take on the warrenty "off the record" for everyone ?
As for 110v for comercial how do you get that then from a generator or do you just step downfrom 240v using a transformer. We do a lot of work for builders who specify 110v on site, then get a bit lost when you bring out a 110v machine and say where do i plug this in!
Usually they say use a transformer from that 240v socket ! or run a line from the site office ( 500 yards away)
Once and once only got a dodgy 110 v ship to clean and guess what the yard ran 240v mains to every deck as no one could use any power tools to work, real life and practice are sadly often miles apart.
Do you have the white sprinter with a steamway machine I saw cleaning in Gay Street one staurday in Bath back in september? If was'nt established here would love a crack of the whip in your locality.
Honestly think you should bring in some machines and sell them on this board let face it fromwhat you quote you could murder the prices we are paying. Get quotes for a proper portables door to door and add on £100 for your trouble,just think you cold make a killing.
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Sorry 110v or 240v in the rain, either is death trap unless earthed.
"the volts give you the jolts"
"the amps put out your lamps"
Lightning is millions of volts and does kill everyone.
The reason for less volts is because it cannot jump longer gaps, it is also not as good a power source,along the same cable it is exactly half as good
Last time i looked V x A = watts
therefore 240x13 =3120watts or 110X13=1430watts
You cannot change the law of physics Jim!!!!!!!!!!!
That why some US house still have a 240 supply for tumble dryers !
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I wasnt trying to refer that 110 was any better in the rain just said it is the law to have it.......and you are exactly right with regards the dryers in the US, as 110 doesnt have the umph....... and yes it could have been me in Bath, it is an area that I service....... most generators have a switch for 110 or 240, my truckmount puts out 110 so I am legal to have lights or airmovers or whatever I need in an emergency, i.e flood jobs where it is night time and no lights on for obvious reasons, best and goodnight for now, Dave.
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Dave,
I would like to ask you which law (regarding voltage) you are referring to? Can you be as specific as you can, please?
Kind regards,
Arthur
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"my truckmount puts out 110 so I am legal to have lights or airmovers or whatever I need in an emergency"
Your pullingmy leg your truckmount generate 110volts thats something i have never seen on any trukmount, a generator and one else familar with that on steamway machines?
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Paul, I sent you an e-mail giving you all the info with regards the 110 volt genny. I know you have questioned it but it does exist, best, Dave.
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Arthur, I am still trying to find the law and where it is written. I have found out though as long as it is a building site then all appliances must be 110 volts or less and yes these are usually plugged into a transformer of your own or the sites. With regards public buildings, once it is not a building site anymore then 240 volts can be used.....however each building has their own health and safety and have the right to enforce anyone to use 110 volts. Hope this helps for now and I will still try to find out where it is written. Who knows maybe it isnt written and it is an unwritten obvious law if that makes sense. A lot of the "dwellings" I clean enforce 110 but then I dont clean normal dwellings and these houses are a law unto themselves, unwritten of course. Best, Dave.
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Thanks Dave for your reply,
You should not bother finding the law, as I just wondered about it, because the whole story about using 110 volts equipment in the UK seems so strange to me. May be this issue appears to me as an out of the ordinary story because I have never dealt with cleaning building sites…
Kind regards,
Arthur