Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: carpetdoctor on September 13, 2013, 02:57:25 pm
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As an experienced carpet cleaner, I'm always looking to improve my skills and machine's.
What do u guys think of this machine is it really as good as I've read about , and what about after car service ?
Thanks for your help :)
Anthony
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Heard nothing but good things about the Jag and Nick at solutions will help you with any problem you have.
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Hi are you looking to purchase a jugular 6.6 carpet cleaning machine I am thinking of selling mine it has just had all the upgrades done by solution Cornwall ltd I have the invoice of work done to the machine it is in excelant condition and working order it is machine only I am looking for £2,400 brilliant machine every think has been done on the upgrade 2 6.6 brand new vacuum motors just fitted just spent £672 on the upgrades and the new motors sorry no offers I am not that fused if i sell it or not if interested phone me on 07831 514778 I have all the paperwork and manuals with the machine .
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You should do plenty of research before parting with your money , i don't believe it comes anywhere near the the currently available UK built machines like the Ashbys Enforcer , Airflex or Alltec Machines in terms of basic engineering , design and build quality .
A machine should not need ' upgrades ' ! by a distributor .... They are not upgrades , they are patches for basic design flaws .
You might get good service from Solutions and buy it if it suits you , but if you do your research and still buy it .... then you truly deserve it :)
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Spending nearly £700 on so called upgrades how bad is this machine.
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I was looking at one of Alltecs prototype machines yesterday with the 6.6s and it looks like Chris may have figured out one of the reliability issues with these vacs when twinned.
Well worth a look at if considering a new machine.
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What do u guys think of this machine is it really as good as I've read about , and what about after car service ?
where did you read it? On the other chanel which is their sales platform, full of lies, ass lickers etc. ?
Do not waste your money, theres better machines, with better look, service and price.
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I think there were issues with the jag as said earlier probably design flaws !.
do a search on here for previous posts, there were enough of them if I recall correctly.
I think if I had a machine with design faults I would not expect to have to pay nearly £700 to have them rectified.
that says it all ?.
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i'm looking for a powerful portable machine , easy to fix and one that has a auto dump/fill thingy lol
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I've had a jag and I'd say that the customer service is excellent from solutions, I have however looked inside and had a play with the alltec machine and I did like what I saw they look as though they have sorted out the problems with the 6.6 vac motors which all suppliers have had problems with its a very well designed and built piece of machinery.
Shaun
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Hi Guys
As I understand it the 6.6 motors are just not as robust as the older versions.
Cheers
Doug
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I've had the Storm 18 months, not had a problem with vac's.
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Seems a bit it and miss with reported Ametek 6.6 failures , I wouldn't be too put off trying them in an Alltec or Airflex .
If you really didnt want to chance them i'd say ( not sure ) Alltec , airflex ,Ashbys would swap in two of the heavy duty Electro motors ( in the two cord machines )
insted of the 6.6 in the storm or Evolution .
The Mytee LTD5 and 1005dx use two of these in parallel . I know this chap in the states upgraded from a Jag 6.6 to Mytee ltd5/1005 and he has not noticed a difference in performance .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viABFWPCZWg
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Ok...
I have owned a Jag and to be fair it performed well and never let me down in the 18 months i had it.
I now own an Ashbys Enforcer and the Alltec Express.
Both machines are fitted with Electro motors (x1 HD & x1 SD) in series and so far so good.
Chris also fitted my Express with a 2" vac barb.
Both machines produce excellent performance... and as for service Chris drove 2 hours to my home address and swapped out my machine after the HX developed a leak... how many suppliers would of done this?
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A machine should not need ' upgrades ' ! by a distributor .... -John Martin
Why not? What is so bad about a Seller of any machine putting in extra efforts trying to help the Buyer after the purchase of equipment? Poor or flawed designs; bad equipment? Don't think so. Been doing this for over 40 years now.
I see nothing wrong with constant upgrades (on our models) of past equipment sold to the Operator whenever we discover through newer technologies and/or newer components available if those items or slight adjustments will make a system better.
Automobile companies do that all the time as well as many other makers of various items.
John, in all due respect I believe that you constantly reveal your real motives when commenting on our products and/or efforts. Never forget that you can't make your candle burn any brighter by trying to blow someone else's. ;)
best to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american
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Oh , dont make it sound like solutions are over there developing your machine , they call them upgrades but they are not upgrades , they are desperation measures eg they are fitting electronic cutout half way down the tank to try and stop the water ingress issue .... might fix the problem but your are left with a tiny usable tank , what else , they try to fix the pumpout so it works , hardly an upgrade ,it should have worked in the first place .... then there's the fitting bits of hose to the vac exhaust and telling the owner he has gained another 200cfm . and then charging them for the privilege Rofl
No doubt some fairly clever people like John Bolton have tried come up with improvements for the Jags issues .... but it cant be done , its like polishing a tu£d .
Many customers and users over the years have tried to offer you suggestions and feedback to improve the machine but you have consistently thrown it back in their faces .
Its a cheaply built machine starting with the lawnmower wheels up , you sell it to newbies on a site posing as a carpet cleaning forum .
I will always be on the side of manufactures who go to expense time and effort to develop the best machine possible and then are proud to stand beside it and show it off at tradefairs.
I know a non censored forum like this doesn't suit you but i am expressing my opinion .
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(, full of lies, ass lickers etc. ?)
Radel I think your comment above is a bit of a generalization of everyone who posts on there ,I have read some very good threads and gleaned some very useful info ,and I do not own a Jag or use solutions and have no affiliation or loyalty to them .
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Tony, do not treat every word so serious, it is obviouse that full of ass lickers does not mean everyone there. Even those ass lickers are very helpfull but only helping selling solutions stuff advising to use their products only. If you trying to come with other product they will push you for 'useless' mpower etc.
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You should know not to ask questions like that carpet doctor, looks what happens.
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And Radel may I point out that " full of " refers to everyone , and the fact you then say "even those ass lickers are very helpful " underlines my point .So it is certainly not obvious in my view .Your comments are not constructive but very offensive . I certainly dont agree with everything that is posted on there far from it ,just like I dont agree with everything that is posted on here ,but I am an adult and can make my own mind up whether I am being cajoled into buying a certain product without resorting to offending anyone .
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Radek
Colloids work if they didn't John Kelly and Jaime Pearson would not sell them.
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Tony
This world is full of idiots - does it mean that we are surouned by idiots only?
Colloids works for some jobs, light maintenance, when left for 30 min and more, well agitated. Not like thay say. Thay always say: it is good product but you need to know how to use it. Who has a time to wait that long and play some strange games in how to apply.
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Tony
This world is full of idiots
I rest my case
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I was considering buying a jag but after reading all this about it, I think I'll stick to what I have for the moment, it's making me a stack of money and no complaints, and drying times is 1-2 hours max.
;D :o
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It's funny really.
A bloke with a beard who visits this forum refers to it as the dark side ;D
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I was considering buying a jag but after reading all this about it, I think I'll stick to what I have for the moment, it's making me a stack of money and no complaints, and drying times is 1-2 hours max.
;D :o
Do you use a rotary?
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I was considering buying a jag but after reading all this about it, I think I'll stick to what I have for the moment, it's making me a stack of money and no complaints, and drying times is 1-2 hours max.
;D :o
Do you use a rotary?
I use both mate. Got an Oreck, and 17" Victor and my carpet machine. All depends on the job to what I use, commercial, rotary all the way.
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Darran, if your current machine does the job you & your clients like, then stick with it.
My Jaguar 6.6 is two years old and I have no upgrades or vac issues ......... I would happily recommend one to any carpet cleaner that is not in my area ...... it has become it's own local USP for my business ;D
Love the fact that CT is reputed to be inhabited by arse lickers ........ I'm just glad it's not full of window lickers ::)roll
** http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=window%20licker
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Used the storm today for a job that we could not get the truck to. 3 hours of hell. Glad I don't have to use it often ;D
What a difference a truckmount makes, you don't realise until you use your porty ;D
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lol Paul too right!
I can't see how there would be much difference between all the 6.6 machines it's the supplier you are buying into, there has been no scientific experiment to show one is better than the other.
Shaun
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lol Paul too right!
I can't see how there would be much difference between all the 6.6 machines it's the supplier you are buying into, there has been no scientific experiment to show one is better than the other.
Shaun
well there is one 6.6 machine in particular that keeps breaking down for a lot of people ::)roll Plus you only have to look at the machines to see which are the best built and easiest to work on.
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If you are still looking to buy a jag here is one on ebay and its a steal at £2300!!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-6-6-carpet-cleaning-machine-/131000185932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e8038344c
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It looks like it has the ' hole cut in its backside ' upgrade .
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Hi John, remember you showed me the electro motor which had similar stats to the 6.6? any chance you could email me the link?
info@prosteamuk.com
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got to say that hole upgrade looks bad, i wouldnt want that on a machine i had only a few months. Is that to stop the vac motors cooking?
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"My opinion" Jag and MP crap. Used both so can say that. MP only good on vomit and odour/urine. Not worth all that money just like the Jag isn't.
I suppose the bottom line is, what we all feel comfortable with and experiences with different tools/products.
I won't be touching Solutions. Moved on to other products which are just as good if not better.
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Jag and MP crap...........Moved on to other products which are just as good if not better.
So whats it to be Darran ...crap ...or good . Rather a contradiction in term wouldnt you say ;D
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Not really!. I don't like the Jag or MPower. Just because people don't use them doesn't mean there crap at carpet cleaning. ;D
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Sorry Darran thats gone straight over my head mate ??? ......Well glad thats all been cleared up then
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lol ;D
You can see it from the suppliers point of view - they must be having a nightmare and a very costly one at that having to supply vac motors under warranty and then also having to make alterations to machines to try to prevent further problems. We all run our own businesses and are trying to make a living just as they are and i dont envy their position - trying to save face and keep reputation whilst also staying in profit.
The one thing that must be asked is why would the manufacturers allow the new vac motors to be fitted without proper testing to understand what environment they can cope with as regards heat etc. Its not only cost the suppliers but also the poor sods who have lost or had to reschedule work because of breakdowns. Its alright saying they can do this and do that, but next time test them under work conditions for a while first eh!?