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Title: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Neil Gornall on September 05, 2013, 07:36:49 pm
Got one of the new poles with a carbon gooseneck and today I nearly chucked it in the river.

I lost count how many times the John Guest fitting inside the pole came apart and the hose fell out the bottom of the pole.

I assume they don't put a cir-clip on as there is not enough room to fit it in the top of the pole. that means every time I snag or slightly pull the pipe its pops out.

I can feel a modification coming on this weekend.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: craig mcneil on September 05, 2013, 07:39:43 pm
Sounds like an issue with the quick release fitting. I've got a similar setup and haven't had any issues even with I've snagged the hose a few times.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: TomCrowther on September 05, 2013, 07:42:09 pm
You have to make sure the pole house is firmly pushed in to the fitting. It should click. Then you should be ok. I have these on all my poles and only rarely have a problem. Then I just cut a cm off the hose and push in again.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on September 05, 2013, 07:47:33 pm
What you need are a couple of these, it will eliminate your problem. ;)

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/John-Guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-Barb-PM250806E.html
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: richard jagger on September 05, 2013, 07:52:55 pm
 I have cut a 1mm piece of the ro pipe with a slit in one side and used it as a circlip

And use the black fitting which help for pulling a hose.

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/John-Guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-Barb-PM250806E.html
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: ascjim on September 06, 2013, 01:56:08 pm
make sure it is pushed in correctly. Also if your pulling your hose that much, its bond to come out
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Joe Shanahan on September 06, 2013, 02:03:28 pm
Just disconnect it and hose straight to the t piece that connects the jets, it's not like we really change brushes and goose necks so often!
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: trevor perry on September 06, 2013, 03:05:28 pm
Just disconnect it and hose straight to the t piece that connects the jets, it's not like we really change brushes and goose necks so often!
got to agree with this, we use hot water which seemed to make the problem worse
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: richard jagger on September 06, 2013, 06:49:10 pm
What pole hose do you have the yellow one at a guess. You are going to fit this
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/John-Guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-Barb-PM250806E.html
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Neil Gornall on September 06, 2013, 06:58:39 pm
Thanks for the replies.  I will go fetch my pole from the river and fix it  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Dave Willis on September 06, 2013, 07:07:15 pm
Also, if mine does it I normally snip a few mm off the end with the special Gardiners hose cutter (that came free). Because the hose gets a bit distorted where it pushes into or over the connection.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: luther1 on September 06, 2013, 09:55:15 pm
I get this nearly every time I use my 47ft extreme,also the slightest snag pulls it apart. Always a joy collapsing the pole and carrying out unnecessary repairs
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on September 06, 2013, 10:29:55 pm
I cut mine off simple
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: mick hay on September 06, 2013, 11:47:08 pm
It happened to me all the time. I phoned gardners and they sent me one of these

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/John-Guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-Barb-PM250806E.html

Not had the problem since.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 07, 2013, 08:34:28 am
Aquadapter do hose inserts for this exact reason - hot water makes the pole hose too soft for the John Guest fittings to keep a grip on! 1 tiny insert will fix the problem straight away.  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: dazmond on September 07, 2013, 08:40:19 am
gardiners new PU hose or aqua-daptor pole hose will eliminate your problem! ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Neil Gornall on September 07, 2013, 10:10:00 am
gardiners new PU hose or aqua-daptor pole hose will eliminate your problem! ;)

That may be so dazmond, but should I have to be buying something to make a piece of equipment do what it was purchased for?
I hope Gardiners have taken note of this and improve for the future.

I have 5 of these poles in constant daily use and am getting fed up having to keep putting them back together.
Its not so much a problem, just annoying.
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: Griffus on September 08, 2013, 10:22:11 am
Just contact Alex directly and I'm sure he'll sort.

I had the same problem a while back with the newer QR's and he sorted straight away.

Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: NBwcs on September 08, 2013, 06:22:47 pm
"I have 5 of these poles in constant daily use and am getting fed up having to keep putting them back together.
Its not so much a problem, just annoying."

It is annoying,happens regulary to me and i have the old style clamps on my clx  as well and have had to re glue 3 clamps now since march which is also annoying especially when I then have to pay for the glue from Gardiners to fix it  >:( . You shouldnt really expect to be having niggling problems on a new pole. Not the end of the world, and its still a great pole but very annoying.

Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: ben M on September 08, 2013, 06:45:16 pm
It happened to me all the time. I phoned gardners and they sent me one of these

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/John-Guest-8mm-stem-to-6mm-Barb-PM250806E.html

Not had the problem since.
+1,you need exactly that!
Title: Re: New Gardiner pole is driving me nuts
Post by: richard jagger on September 08, 2013, 07:06:54 pm
The reason we have a problem with these hoses is because we all have a different system no company accommodates these differences. As for hot water well how hot is hot. P U hose is fine at 65 degrees and less,  but a hose that will withstand some of the hot systems would have to be made of a metal and will not  be flexible. Remember many of these systems are new to our industry, and we are working in an exciting time of development.