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Title: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: nokmond on August 27, 2013, 06:34:35 pm
Does anyone else's new clamp levers spin and loosen when you open them? Is there a quick fix?
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: dd on August 27, 2013, 07:08:24 pm
No quick fix to them spinning in my experience. You do get used to it but it can be a pain and contributes to the nut working loose and so needs to be occasionally adjusted.

Sorry Alex but I am a little disappointed by the new clamps.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 27, 2013, 07:16:58 pm
To get the best from these clamps you will need to adjust them up properly to start with. This is done by adjusting the bolt adjusters until they just hold the section. Then tighten up by another full turn (360 degrees) and then another half turn (180 degrees).

Try this and see how they perform. Any other problems drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Richard iSparkle on August 27, 2013, 10:04:35 pm
we're continuously adjusting ours too, screwing up the bolt.  on a day to day basis theyre not much different from the old OMHO.  however, they have given us extra life out of old carbon sections that would have been replaced previously, so thats a big bonus
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on August 27, 2013, 10:07:56 pm
I don't like the clamps at all. I've tried tightening them as much as possible but they ineviatably become loose again and start spinning which winds me up.
I think you need to re-design them in such a way that they can't spin at all.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 27, 2013, 10:15:21 pm
If you have a problem with this can you drop me an email along with your name and order number, as this should be able to be sorted out fairly easily.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Richard iSparkle on August 27, 2013, 10:16:04 pm
to be fair the new clamp glue seems a bit improvement on the old too  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: traps7 on August 28, 2013, 08:46:01 am
I've got the new clamps on my 3 poles and they work great.

A massive improvement on the old ones. Only need adjusting once in a while.

I don't know what some of you lot do with them.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: formb on August 28, 2013, 08:51:44 am
I have found that if they are adjusted like it says on the instructions they work fine, they do twist off of their axis from time to time which is mildly irritating but I think the design of them should extend the length of time that the clamps work effectively.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Avo on August 28, 2013, 09:01:46 am
But why are you constantly adjusting it ??
You must be adjusting due to the lever spinning not the pole spinning.. The anti pole slip with these clamps is almost Eliminated fully but Unfortunately a side effect to this is loose spinning levers.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Positivity on August 28, 2013, 12:48:25 pm
Same problem here.
I think the problem is the Loctite or whatever is on the thread.
When you first fit them and turn the bolt it is really, really stiff because the Loctite is holding but once you have adjusted them up to suit your particular pole section - (they are all different) the "fix" of the Loctite is broken.
I can manage with adjusting them - just about :) :)
but I reckon some fresh Loctite and then adjust them to suit and they should be fine.
Maybe instead of pre-treating the threads with Loctite which then has to be "unfixed"- a little sachet included with the clamp set may be a better option.
This could then be applied and the clamp set to suit and the Loctite should hold.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: traps7 on August 28, 2013, 12:58:42 pm
The loctite is fine. Its only supposed to give more resistance to thread turning.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Michael Peterson on August 28, 2013, 02:56:37 pm
i use new clamps on a clx along old that i havent changed on a slx, the new ones are much better, mine do what the others are saying but on no occasion have i ever not been able to close on with one hand, i find on of my clamps needs the bolt tightening once a day and thats it , for a pole that cost less that a friday night out im well happy
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: ascjim on August 28, 2013, 04:17:45 pm
To get the best from these clamps you will need to adjust them up properly to start with. This is done by adjusting the bolt adjusters until they just hold the section. Then tighten up by another full turn (360 degrees) and then another half turn (180 degrees).

Try this and see how they perform. Any other problems drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk

Classic
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: ascjim on August 28, 2013, 04:18:15 pm
Great clamps btw
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: dd on August 28, 2013, 06:53:50 pm
Same problem here.
I think the problem is the Loctite or whatever is on the thread.
When you first fit them and turn the bolt it is really, really stiff because the Loctite is holding but once you have adjusted them up to suit your particular pole section - (they are all different) the "fix" of the Loctite is broken.
I can manage with adjusting them - just about :) :)
but I reckon some fresh Loctite and then adjust them to suit and they should be fine.
Maybe instead of pre-treating the threads with Loctite which then has to be "unfixed"- a little sachet included with the clamp set may be a better option.
This could then be applied and the clamp set to suit and the Loctite should hold.
You mean the blue "Nylock". Adjusting the clamps over time causes it to wear off in my experience. Could try a little ptf tape on thread.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: richard jagger on August 28, 2013, 07:15:05 pm
I find because the clamps are spring loaded you need to tighten the more than the old clamps.
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: kaz and pete on August 28, 2013, 08:46:51 pm
we put the new clamps on both our poles I very rarely have to adjust my clamps but
Pete's clamps need adjusting daily, but they are a big improvement on the old clamps
great product so far
kazza ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: Michael Peterson on August 28, 2013, 09:27:12 pm
must just need a woman touch ;-)
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: PoleKing on August 28, 2013, 09:48:01 pm
must just need a woman touch ;-)

You best hope Kaz is a chick!
Title: Re: New Gardiner clamp levers spinning
Post by: [GQC] Tim on September 05, 2013, 02:22:30 pm
Having done my second pole now I can genuinely say that these are the best clamps I've ever used. Properly set up, they work just fine. Glue is fantastic as well. Only thing I did was add a drop of loctite (that came with the original Mk1 SL-X!) to the tip of the bolt. Just as a precaution, as the blue loctite does seem to come off a bit if you've dismantled the clamp.

Mk1 SL-X from 2008 back in action. ;)